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Florida Vaping Bans

Discussion in 'Florida Vapors Club' started by Uncle, Oct 17, 2019.

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  1. Uncle

    Uncle ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Uncle ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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  3. MacTechVpr

    MacTechVpr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Hollywood (Beach), FL
    As well some communities and their management or BoD's are or may now undertake to apply FL's recent irrationally contrived constitutional proscription on workplace vaping as the legal basis to abrogate individual ownership right in common property, elements or related services…as I cautioned some time ago. So if they can't do it top-down it will be bottom-up. Pretty much as expected, we're getting it.

    Good luck. :)
     
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  4. Uncle

    Uncle ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    NEW CASSA ALERT ! ! !

    BAN ONLINE SALES TO FLORIDIANS:

    A bill (SB 810) that would ban direct-to-consumer online sales is scheduled for the first of several committee meetings on

    Monday, January 21, 2020
    10:00 AM

    Committee on Health Policy
    Pat Thomas Committee Room, Rm 412
    Knott Building
    601-631 Duval St
    Tallahassee, FL


    Please take a moment to send a message to committee members. Below, CASAA is providing contact information, talking points, and a prewritten comment that you can customize and paste into your email.


     
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  5. sofarsogood

    sofarsogood Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2014
    I read the bill. There is no vaping or smoking within 1000 feet of a school unless you were in a car or on private property. There are schools around me but I wouldn't know how far away they are. I don't think I would move to a state where I can't mail order products unless that was true in every state. From what I see the whole thing looks very cumbersome. The penalties on retailers seem extreme and the penalties on kids very little. After all these years nobody did anything about kids smoking so now all of a sudden that's all going to change? Why do I doubt it?
     
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  6. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 14, 2013
    NE FL
    "(1) It is unlawful for any person under 21 years of age to smoke tobacco or vape in, on, or within 1,000 feet of the 22 real property comprising a public or private elementary, middle, 23 or secondary school"

    I don't think that part would affect you (or me!). ;)
     
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  7. sofarsogood

    sofarsogood Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2014
    Thanks for pointing that out. I'm thinking the more time that goes by maybe the Panic will settle down. How do we just delay them for a while?
     
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  8. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    NE FL
    Personally, I refuse to panic over every bill that's introduced and then referred to some committee. There's a huge number of bills introduced in state legislatures (and even Congress) every year that get referred to committee and are never seen again thereafter.

    But even if it passes and is signed by the Governor, it doesn't go into effect until after well after the FedGov's May 12th PMTA deadline, and then any mail-order restrictions are pretty much a moot point anyway.

    Bottom line: I won't be selling my place in Florida over this even if it does pass. ;)
     
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  9. Uncle

    Uncle ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Just As An FYI . . . .

    UPDATE From CASSA:

    (Updated - 01.30.20)
    Two Bills, SB 810 (online sales ban) and SB 1394 (85% wholesale tax), are scheduled for a committee meeting on
    Monday, February 3, 2020
    1:30 PM

    Committee on Innovation, Industry, and Technology
    Tori Jennings Committee Room, Rm 110
    Senate Building Building
    Tallahassee, FL



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  10. MacTechVpr

    MacTechVpr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Hollywood (Beach), FL
    Thanks @Uncle, beat me to it.

    Here's the juris lingo…
    Committee Contact Information:

    Phone Email Twitter
    Wilton Simpson (R)
    Chair (850) 487-5010 simpson.wilton.web@flsenate.gov @WiltonSimpson
    Lizbeth Benacquisto (R)
    Vice Chair (850) 487-5027 benacquisto.lizbeth.web@flsenate.gov @lizbethkb

    Rob Bradley (R) (850) 487-5005 bradley.rob.web@flsenate.gov @Rob_Bradley
    Jeff Brandes (R) (850) 487-5024 brandes.jeff.web@flsenate.gov @JeffreyBrandes
    Travis Hutson (R) (850) 487-5007 hutson.travis.web@flsenate.gov @TravisJHutson
    Kathleen Passidomo (R) (850) 487-5028 Passidomo.Kathleen.web@flsenate.gov @Kathleen4SWFL
    Randolph Bracy (D) (850) 487-5011 bracy.randolph.web@flsenate.gov @rbracy30
    Oscar Braynon (D) (850) 487-5035 braynon.oscar.web@flsenate.gov @oscarjb2
    Gary Farmer (D) (850) 487-5034 farmer.gary.web@flsenate.gov @FarmerForFLSen
    Audrey Gibson (D) (850) 487-5006 gibson.audrey.web@flsenate.gov @SenAudrey2eet

    Good luck all. :)
     
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  11. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Tucson, AZ
    There are really two places I fear winding up in my dotage and it's CA an FL.

    IDK why they have to suck so much but they do,

    Well, I suppose with no workable house anywhere, I need not worry quite yet. LOL.

    Anna
     
  12. NCC

    NCC Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 14, 2010
    Fla Panhandle, USA
    Having lived in Florida most of my life, I wish I could defend it. But, we have some of the most notorious politicians in the country and the people who keep electing them.
     
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  13. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    It's okay even if they weren't in place, you would still be the place that had alligators, mosquitoes the size of trucks, and like, the everglades. Even that word sends shivers down my spine,. My parents wanted to go there SO MUCH.

    I think they were trying to kill off a child possibly me,, because it is ALSO the state in which my parents allowed my security blanket to get LOST. I was weepy but she told me I could have "anything I wanted" if like, I just shut up about it.

    I mean ANYTHING. A unicorn.. A pony. A house of my own in the back yard with an easy bake oven!

    I CHOSE A LITEBRITE.

    I don't know what was wrong with me, but the Lite bite was both cool, and the source of my biggest resentment, later.

    There is no way a state is coming back from that. Elect who you want. I do not care. LOL I mean I care about YOU personally, but I ain't setting foot there EVER again,

    Losing your transitional object SUCKS. I always tell parents to buy doubles if their kid has one (or more.) Unfortunately my son's was this vile black and white blanket I could not replace. Mr.Fluffy went to the surgery hospital on many occasions and I do not SEW voluntarily. But, he still has it, boxed up somewhere. This is because I was a good mom who would never vacation in FLORIDA

    Anna
     
  14. NCC

    NCC Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 14, 2010
    Fla Panhandle, USA
    Odd, the things you find deplorable about Florida aren't even on my list, as a long time Florida resident who would rather live elsewhere. In fact, one of them is even an attraction, although I live hundreds of miles from the Everglades.
     
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  15. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 14, 2013
    NE FL
    Take it from someone who has a place to hang his hat in two other states as well, but chooses to spend as much time as possible in Florida: This state has issues/problems, as does every other state, but it also has redeeming qualities, like this sunrise the other day:

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. NCC

    NCC Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 14, 2010
    Fla Panhandle, USA
    Florida doesn't own the patent on sunrises, nor sunsets.
    OregonSunset.jpg
     
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  17. Uncle

    Uncle ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Another FYI . . . .

    UPDATE From CASSA - TODAY:

    SB 1394, which would subject vapor products to an 85% wholesale tax and SB 810, which would ban online sales, are scheduled for a hearing on

    Thursday, February 20, 2020
    9:00 AM
    S. Committee on Appropriations
    Knott Building, Room 412
    601 - 631 S. Duval St.
    Tallahassee, FL


    Please make plans to attend this hearing. Even if you do not plan to speak, your presence is important as it demonstrates the large numbers of people affected by this legislation.

    Prior to the meeting, please take a moment to make contact with your officials urging them to reject SB 1394.



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  18. MacTechVpr

    MacTechVpr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Hollywood (Beach), FL
    Seems clear to me that the bureaucrats in FL are intent on destroying the vaping industry unimpeded by any in the legislature. None of the "hearings" I've observed have yielded anything constructive regardless of the favorable testimony of those contributing from our community.

    The legislative session has ended and

    are headed to Gov DeSantis for signature.

    While it's still unclear to me if SB 1394 in full is passed [believe 3/5], it will take effect on the adoption of SB 810.

    What will result is [finally] the formal fictional re-definition of vaping as tobacco (smoking) by edict and the effective ban of virtually all vaping products for sale.

    I hesitate to even ask but we all of us should appeal to him to VETO this human atrocity if only as a matter of principle.

    Good luck. :)
     
  19. B2L

    B2L Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jan 14, 2012
    Jacksonville, FL
    For what it’s worth...

    FL - Stop a Flavor Ban (VETO SB 810)! (UPDATED)
     
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