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Flow-over tank proposal?

Discussion in 'Tank Issues' started by Izord, Dec 7, 2011.

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  1. Izord

    Izord Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 20, 2011
    Has anyone seen anything like this?

    I'm going to call it Izord's Blizzard.

    Coils will be immersed directly in the tank. No atty, carto, or filler. Maybe baffles

    Air will flow through an inlet into the tank then then out through the mouthpiece.
  2. Eddie.Willers

    Eddie.Willers ECF Wiki SysOp Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Apr 3, 2011
    Prairie Canada
  3. Dieseler

    Dieseler ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2011
    I have not Izord .
    Do you have pictures or is it in the making by you ?
    The idea sounds interesting.
  4. Dougiestyle

    Dougiestyle Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 5, 2011
    Knoxville, TN USA
    You're talking about "boiling" nicquid? I believe the nicotine has adverse reactions to exposure to heat. For the atomizer to be submerged, you're going to have issues with nicquid going kaput and tasting foul. This is a guess, but so far, PVs have been limited to atomizer coils that have gradual amounts of nicquid introduced to the heating coil.
  5. throatkick

    throatkick Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Dec 20, 2010
    Maybe I'm missing something but this sounds counter-intuitive all the way around.
  6. Izord

    Izord Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 20, 2011
    It might not work. Been stuck at work all day. I'll try to make a prototype this weekend.

    Basing the idea somewhat on commercial anesthetic vaporizers which used to be bubble-through, but are now mostly flow-over.

    (vaporizing is boiling or the transition of a substance from liquid to gas phase)
  7. Dieseler

    Dieseler ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2011
    I would like to see a picture of the prototype go for it.
    They probably told the wright brothers it will never work when they tried flying.
    One never knows unless they try.
    Keep us posted good or bad.
  8. Izord

    Izord Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 20, 2011
    I tried it out, part of it anyway.

    Took apart a 1.5 ohm DC, and unrolled the filler and the diapers and discarded them. Then I inserted the coil assembly back into the clear tube and glued them together. Filled with 50/50 vg/pg. Really thick.

    Put on my Infinity and cranked it up. The coils boiled the liquid, it thinned out and started running out the 510 bottom hole.

    Luckily I had it on a sealed shorty 510-510 connector.

    I had a paper towel around the base to catch the drip.

    There was vapor production, but could only run it for a few seconds before the fluid level dropped too much. Next step would be to plug the bottom hole and try it again.

    Not sure if this is worth pursuing.

    Cartos, with their wicking have a nice, very localized boiling effect, with the filler wicking new liquid to the hot coils at a more or less even rate.

    A liquid vaporizer might work with a small boiling chamber at the bottom, with a bigger reservoir at the top.

    Don't know if coils would produce enough heat to cause localized boiling if immersed in large volume of cooling liquid.

    Also as the bubbles of vapor bubbled up through the cooler liquid they would tend to recondense.

    Maybe trying to reinvent the wheel. Anyone have a diagram of a UFS?

  9. Dieseler

    Dieseler ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2011
    Yeah im not a modder what so ever but these things perk my curiosity, i have seen the dual coils and that popped in my head what if someone could get that to work in a tank ?
    Thats why this thread caught my interest, i mean look how far electronics like cell phones have evolved so quickly you know.
    Sorry i don't not have the diagram you seek you would have to contact i forget the screen name but there is a thread on the odeyssus not correctly spelled and thats the fella "i think" you would have to ask .
  10. Izord

    Izord Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 20, 2011
    Insulin pumps are compact, have about a 2-3 ml reservoir and micromotor pump that deliver precise 0.01 ml volumes on demand. Computer controlled. They cost about $10,000 new. If someone found a used one they could tinker with it.

    That would be a key part of a nice delivery system. Sorry to hijack my thread.
  11. zzooti

    zzooti Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2011
    Brunswick, Maine
    Well, since you already diverted you're own thread, your last post sounds promising, a precise controlled on-demand delivery of metered amounts of juice to the coil, possibly from a separate sealed tank; sort of like fuel injection in a car.
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