Fluxomizer Supreme 510 XL 2.4-2.6 question

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Howdy folks,

I got my new Fluxomizers 510 2.4-2.6 ohm today and I was pretty pumped up to use them after working with the eGo C tanks for a month and a half. While the tank set-ups vape well and have great taste I have never been able to stop the leaking entirely and I am wasting juice.

I set up two Fluxomizers, one with the 60/40 juice from the vapor pro and another with Ms. T's juice and gave them a good soak. I also moved the silicone seal up a little as per the video. Wow lots of vapor, but very little taste.

My question is will the taste improve over time like it did with my atty's.

Thanks for your anticipated help.

Fisher
 

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Yes. They do benefit from a tank or so of "break in". They'll never taste as good as a bare atty, but they will definitely be an improvement over what you'd get with a cartomizer and at least as good as the eGo tank systems.

That said, they really should offer a lower resistance for 3.4V devices. 2.4-2.6 ohms is pushing it, IMO, with 3.4V. A 2.0-2.2 ohm option would be much better for an eGo. With 3.4V and 2.5ohms, you're getting well under 5 watts. Fluxos seem to really shine at 6-7 watts.
 

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I am still having issues with my fluxomizers. I have tried different juices that worked well for me on my eGo-C tank system and I am still getting very little taste. I also have to invert the fluxomizer for a 5 count and wait to get the wick wetted properly even when it is full. If I don't do that then it starts to get a slight burn taste and I get very little vapor. I am very dissapointed. I have tried three of them and they don't work as well or taste nearly as good as my tanks.
Please help!
 

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I am still having issues with my fluxomizers. I have tried different juices that worked well for me on my eGo-C tank system and I am still getting very little taste. I also have to invert the fluxomizer for a 5 count and wait to get the wick wetted properly even when it is full. If I don't do that then it starts to get a slight burn taste and I get very little vapor. I am very dissapointed. I have tried three of them and they don't work as well or taste nearly as good as my tanks.
Please help!

Tipping CE2s, including Fluxos, is a standard procedure for using them. It becomes a second nature thing, after a while. Kinda like flicking the ash off a cigarette.
 

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If you want to risk one in the name of science, you might try shortening the wicks. I have noticed that my CE2 based Vivi Nova tanks taste noticeably better with short wicks. It doesn't cause dry hits the way you'd suspect it would. You have to tip them now and then anyway and there's no sense keeping a whole wick wet when you can mainline the juice almost directly from the reservior to the coil with a short wick.

I don't think these wicks are capable of moving juice very well for their full length. I think you just end up with a dry spot around the coil that gets soaked only from the nearest 1/4". Otherwise, you'd never need to tip a long wicked clearo. The more I play with these Vivi Nova heads, the more I get convinced that long wicks don't work the way you envision them working. The juice in my short wick tanks doesn't get dark like it does in the long wick tanks. Something else is going on here and I wish I had the equipment to track the movement of juice in the wick because I'm thinking that a good amount of it is just sitting there stagnating. Maybe some of the flavoring elements are being held in the length of the wick? I dunno, but there's a definite taste improvement when I replace long multi-stranded wicks with a short fat single strand.
 

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I watched a video from Gotvapes where he stated that you must tilt the drip tip slightly down to your mouth when vaping with a fluxo or you will get a dry hit.

Depending on the thickness of the juice, just holding it horizontal is usually enough. I vape from horizontal to 30-45 degrees most of the time and rarely have to tip it beyond horizontal, mostly only when it's less than about 1/4 full. I use 70%VG juice and I'd imagine it would even be less necessary to do any radical tiliting with thinner juice.

Again, if the wicks were doing their job, you wouln't need to tip it at all. They're long enough to reach the juice. I'm going to cut the wicks on the next Fluxomizer I take apart for cleaning. My theory is that the function of the long wicks is more psychological than anything else.
 

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Actually, the long wicks do seem to pick up juice pretty well. As an experiment, I put a new head with long wicks on and put about 1/3 tank of juice in. I was careful to keep everything vertical and to keep the juice off the wicks as I filled. I could see the juice leaching up the wick pretty quickly. After a minute or so I took a vape and it was not a dry hit. At any rate, I have just trimmed the wicks so that they are just touching the walls of the tank in hopes of increasing flavor. We'll see.
 

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If you want to risk one in the name of science, you might try shortening the wicks. I have noticed that my CE2 based Vivi Nova tanks taste noticeably better with short wicks. It doesn't cause dry hits the way you'd suspect it would. You have to tip them now and then anyway and there's no sense keeping a whole wick wet when you can mainline the juice almost directly from the reservior to the coil with a short wick.

I don't think these wicks are capable of moving juice very well for their full length. I think you just end up with a dry spot around the coil that gets soaked only from the nearest 1/4". Otherwise, you'd never need to tip a long wicked clearo. The more I play with these Vivi Nova heads, the more I get convinced that long wicks don't work the way you envision them working. The juice in my short wick tanks doesn't get dark like it does in the long wick tanks. Something else is going on here and I wish I had the equipment to track the movement of juice in the wick because I'm thinking that a good amount of it is just sitting there stagnating. Maybe some of the flavoring elements are being held in the length of the wick? I dunno, but there's a definite taste improvement when I replace long multi-stranded wicks with a short fat single strand.

My theory, from out here in Left Field, is that the wick is acting as a filter as well. It seems that the thicker, darker juice gets left behind and this colors the juice as well.

There is also the issue of gravity to overcome as well. Capillary action will only take so much, so far, and the lighter liquids will naturally climb faster. This is also demonstrated with bottom coils as well, when it ALL comes out the bottom.

I trimmed the wicks on a Vision Extreme to 1/2 inch and it worked well, until I couldn't put up with the leaking anymore!

I think Star Dust was on the right track, they just didn't perfect the rest of it (like soldered connections and zero resistance wire to the coil)!
 

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Actually, the long wicks do seem to pick up juice pretty well. As an experiment, I put a new head with long wicks on and put about 1/3 tank of juice in. I was careful to keep everything vertical and to keep the juice off the wicks as I filled. I could see the juice leaching up the wick pretty quickly. After a minute or so I took a vape and it was not a dry hit. At any rate, I have just trimmed the wicks so that they are just touching the walls of the tank in hopes of increasing flavor. We'll see.

My theory is that the juice will leach up a dry wick. But then it reaches some sort of stasis. The areas that don't dry out just stay soaked with the same juice they had when they were first wetted. The segment in the coil is only fed from the parts of the wick directly adjacent and so on down the wick, but the action doesn't extend the full length. If it did, you'd be able to run a tank dry without any tipping at all. At some point, you have to tip the carto, no matter how long you wait between hits.
 

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Thanks Sailorman, sounds like a good idea to me. I tried fluffing the wicks and trimming the silicone seal and that helped, but what helped most was tipping the fluxomizer when I took a puff. I will try trimming the wicks next because what I have done so far has improved the performance a little, but it is still not as good as my old tanks.
 

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I think you guys are correct in the fact that the wicks tend to pick up the less viscous portions of the juice first because it short order what remains is thicker and darker., unfortuantely that thicker stuff has a lot of the flavor in it. I have not shortened the wicks yet though I did re-fluff the wicks at the cups and just below them and that seemed to improve the wicking and the taste. It seems like the tighter the weave on the wick the more of a filtering effect you get. Still can't vape like I did with the tanks, but it is getting closer and it is nice to have gotten away from the leaks. My guess is that unless they find some super wicking material it will never feed like a tank or work anything like dripping.
Everything I have tried so far seems like compromise and I am still looking for the best solution.
Stardusts? , Mods?, VV?, and different formulas of juices, who knows, but I am still learning.
I really and sincerely appreciate your help.
 
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I cut my fluxomizer wicks to about 3/4 inch on each side and not really sure it improves the flavor, but it does allow you to unwind the wicks where they are webbed out and fluffed real good and it appears the wicks hold more juice near the top of the tube this way.

HaHa! I trimmed mine to 1/2 inch. I noticed that my 0.9ml Fluxos worked better than my 1.8ml ones. I basically trimmed the 1.8ml wicks to the same length as the 0.9ml wicks. I have definitely had less dry hits and the ones I have had I have caused myself by forgetting to tip.

The longer wicks definitely are filtering the juice and it is not moving. When I clean them they are saturated with the heavier parts of the juice. As far as I am concerned they are just wasting that much juice. If you want to see how much they waste, you can fill a clearo, let it soak and then remove the juice with a long needle and syringe. There is a large difference between what you put in and what comes back out and what is in the wicks stays there (nearly all of it) because they are saturated each time I clean one.

I think the 1/2 inch is a good compromise between shorter distance to the coil and having a reserve in the wick. I'm sure they will work at different lengths, shorter or longer, and it would depend on individual preference.
 
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