fluxomizers and dry burning

[Sedateme]

Just a quick question on dry burning with the fluxomizers. I was cleaning one for the first time. I took it apart, rinsed everything, you know the drill. The time came to dry burn. Did a 5 second burn, everything went well. Went to do another, and it popped a coil. The coil itself broke off about 1/8 of an inch above the solder joint. I'm new to all of this, and have never had this happen. Is this how coils normally fail if you try to dry burn them too long? I don't think what I did was excessive.

I'm not crying about the atty popping, just curious so I can avoid something like this in the future.

 

[calico21]

What model are you trying to dry burn on? I've heard it happening with the high voltage models, but my 808 burns them fine. I just did 5 this morning no issues.

 

[calico21]

Also I don't remove the tube just rinse in hotwater 3 or 4 times and work it from there. Empty, rinse until clean shake out and burn. Shake a little more(to get condensation out) burn again. Repeat last step as necessary.

 

[Sedateme]

Ive got the 2.6-2.8 XL fluxos on a 900 mah eGo.

 

[calico21]

Forgive me for my lack of knowledge on the Ego, is that 3.7 volts?

 

[badkolo]

if you dont feel comfortable removing the tube then wash it out, flick it dry, and do shorter bursts or at least give it a rest period of 5 seconds in between bursts so you dont over heat everything and warp the plastic or pop the coil. 5 tp 8 seconds are good bursts , now if you wiggle off the tube then you can do much longer bursts without to much worry but still give it rests after a few bursts and dont blow on it as that makes it hotter and can cause it to pop

 

[Sedateme]

The eGo is 3.2-3.4 volts. I did pull it out of the tube first so no issues there. I was blowing on it as I dry burned... probably what caused it to pop. When I dry burn, I tend to pulse the button, I think a sustained press for a lengthy time during a dry burn is just asking for something to go wrong.

 

[badkolo]

no do not pulse it, hold it down for 5 to 7 seconds, do not blow on it, and let it cool off a few seconds between bursts, the ce2 can handle dry burns, in my video i hold one down for 30 seconds at a time

 

[Olef]

My method for dry burning. Power for half a second, power off for half a second i.e. press-release-press-release etc. Repeat this max of ten times, then blow hard into the cup. this is what I call one sequence.

Pulsing the power like this allows the coil to heat slower and heat less than a full throttle five second burn.

The first once or twice you do this you will not see the coils glow red at all, that is because they are heating the gunk and turning it into ash without sending the coil incandescent. On the third or fourth sequence the coil will begin to show red. Continue to do the sequence until the coil is glowing quite brightly around the sixth or seventh pulse and the wick has turned back to white.

I have been doing this for the last eleven weeks on ten clearos a week and have not popped one yet. Remember, juice on a coil is going to cool it so it never reaches a red heat glowing temperature. You cant just throw full voltage into a dry coil for five seconds and expect it to take it. You need to build the heat gradually and cool it in between sequences, then the wire will survive. I never allow the coils to glow bright red or orange for more than half a second before releasing the power.

That's my experience and method anyway. My coils survive and all the gunk gets cleaned off without over-stressing the coils. HTH someone.

 

[calico21]

no do not pulse it, hold it down for 5 to 7 seconds, do not blow on it, and let it cool off a few seconds between bursts, the ce2 can handle dry burns, in my video i hold one down for 30 seconds at a time

This is what I do('cept I'll stop blowing on it)

 

[Sedateme]

no do not pulse it, hold it down for 5 to 7 seconds, do not blow on it, and let it cool off a few seconds between bursts, the ce2 can handle dry burns, in my video i hold one down for 30 seconds at a time

May I ask why pulsing is a bad idea?

 

[badkolo]

ive had that cause me issues in the past, more then once and not sure why so i advice against it.

 

[cryx]

I do repeated burns on a manual pass thru. I'll do longer burns until the coil is clean enough to turn orange, then I do repeated ~5s burns, with a couple second cooldown, until the wick is clean & white and most importantly stops smoking. I've popped coils with longer burn pulses, and the wires are a b!@#% to resolder.

I don't know about anybody else, but with any of the CEs, I get a nasty/weird taste after I do a dry burn. It's like a plastic/vinyl taste which makes me wonder if the vinyl on the soldered wires is melting a bit. I'll put 2 drips on the coil and continue to lightly burn for a few seconds to get the taste out. Usually ~4-6 drips is enough to be pristine again.

I hope this helps someone.