Fogger V4!!

[350ZMO]

I am obsessing about the arrival of my new vape gear. I currently use a Vamo v5 w Kanger mega (1.5 ohm). I just ordered a pioneer4you/green leaf iPV2 (50watt box), a fogger 4.4, and a Kaiser. I am going to try my hand at building (hopefully sub ohm) coils.

Thank you to everyone on this AWESOME site. I have learned so much from your posts.

Congrats! This is a big jump from a VAMO/Kanger and that's already pretty good bang for the buck. With the SX330 regulating down to 3.6V, a .5ohm coil would result in about 26W, a .2ohm coil about 65W or limited at 50W not counting efficiency losses. I ordered a kaiser too, gonna try a donut in it. Only 2.5ML though, but looks interesting.

 

[Tbev]

I run a Fv4 on a vamo v3 for my dad @1.4ohm is 99%as good as mine @0.8ohm

 

[Tbev]

Way to step it up bro!

 

[Uncletattoowhat]

UGH, i need to start a donation program so i can finally get one of these!

 

[AMDTrucking]

I am obsessing about the arrival of my new vape gear. I currently use a Vamo v5 w Kanger mega (1.5 ohm). I just ordered a pioneer4you/green leaf iPV2 (50watt box), a fogger 4.4, and a Kaiser. I am going to try my hand at building (hopefully sub ohm) coils.

Thank you to everyone on this AWESOME site. I have learned so much from your posts.

From what I understand after watching YouTube review, this Kaiser only holds 2.5 ML of juice instead of advertised 4.0 ML.
And I believe it, coming from YiLoong, the Fogger 4.3 was advertised at 6.0 ML when in reality it only held 3.0 ML
I don't know if I want to pay $35.00 for a tank that made by YiLoogng and has Kanger Protank capacity.

 

[350ZMO]

You could wait for the BIG Kaiser LOL. It'll be advertised at 8 and only hold 5.

 

[AMDTrucking]

You could wait for the BIG Kaiser LOL. It'll be advertised at 8 and only hold 5.

You got that right

 

[350ZMO]

Kaiser does have a couple cool features. A screw on top cap that hides a top fill port and captive wire posts.

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However same size as Fogger V4+ but holds less juice.

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But does eat a donut and rayon...who knows maybe two!

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[Tbev]

It's a genny, totally different animal.

 

[TheKiwi]

It's a genny, totally different animal.

Eh? You're not referring to the kaiser are you


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[ewspears]

I for one would like to hear any feedback from this esteemed group on the Kaiser!!! Haven't pulled the trigger yet but am considering it!

Eh? You're not referring to the kaiser are you


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[TheKiwi]

I for one would like to hear any feedback from this esteemed group on the Kaiser!!! Haven't pulled the trigger yet but am considering it!

Oh I quoted tbev because I don't know if he was calling the kaiser a genny. Because it's not.

But hmm. Like what AMD said, he's not the first to mention that the capacity is actually more like 2ish ml. Which is kinda silly, given how huge this atty is.

The other thing is if you're actually looking for a Rose 2 clone, you're better off just waiting for it. It's just been cloned and shouldn't take too long to become avail. I say this because one of the biggest attraction about the rose 2 was it's ability to handle super low ohm dual builds without wicking problems. If you look at the pictures below, you'll see that the wick slots for the kaiser is very significantly smaller

Rose 2:

Kaiser:

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[Tbev]

Yes That appears to be the latest version!
While we're talking about YiLoong versions; What do You All think about this???? Atty Rebuildable Atomizer Vape Surgical Stainless Steel Yi Loong | eBay

Yes I would call that guy a genny, and probably not the world's best. But i obviously had my head up my,,, while you were bringing up the Keizer, happens more often than ya know!

 

[Tbev]

I've never been a fan of ceramic cups, but I dunno... I'd pass prolly

 

[gorman]

Came here from the rayon thread, where Tbev was harping on Fogger V4 qualities. Now, do you think this one would be a good choice?

Fogger V4 - Svapobar

Don't mind the text in the URL, it's supposed to be a V4.

I'm asking because if I look at this "authentic" one http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTHENTIC-F...ng-SS-or-Black-RBA-RTA-4-4/251582906256?rt=nc it seems to differ in there not being the engraved Fogger writing on its side. So, maybe, the one sold by Svapobar it's just a bad clone, I don't know.

Thanks for the help.

 

[TheKiwi]

The svapobar is either a clone or is the first ever fogger v4 version. Based on the AFC ring at least.


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[Tbev]

I just picked up another Fogger V4.1 from Vapetasia on eBay. I bought the original from them when they first came out and am excited to try out the revised model. It's on auto accept for best offer and I got it for $25. Here's a link for anyone interested:

Stainless Fogger V4 RBA Atomizer Ships Free USA Seller in Stock | eBay

I do have a question though...can you just wick the new version like the original down the juice channels or are you supposed to do it KF style? I love the way it works down the juice channels and never had much success on my old KF 3.1, so I'm hoping I can do the juice channel method.

Ta Dah,! . . Here you go Gorman.

 

[350ZMO]

IMHO Kaiser pros over fogger:

Hidden top fill port
Captive lead screws versus wrapping around a screw
Tight AFC

Cons over fogger:

Holds a lot less juice.

Comparable:

Machining fit and finish which could be better on both but price is low.
SS and glass
Copper center pin - though I think that is a gimmick on both
Adjustable center pin
Need screwdriver for build and fill
Spare parts bag and keychain screwdriver
Draw
Vape quality

Some may not like the painted logo ... and/or bolt look but it sure does make it easier to function IE adjust airflow and get the top cap cover off for filling.

Flows juice just fine, vapes great like Fogger. Taste may actually be a hair bit better not sure as my first Kaiser build was leaky and flooding need to use more rayon on next build. Also I'm using a single donut on Kaiser and duals on Fogger So while I find the amount of vapor more than sufficient, fogger has more, but I think that's because of the single donut build I put on it. Pretty sure I can put a dual on Kaiser but doesn't seem to need it for a quality vape experience. Not sure how I would do a single on fogger. So that may actually be a pro for some folks, only one coil to get a quality vape. But I'm getting a nice dense cool saturated vape with sufficient vapor production for my needs. Draw seems more quiet but not silent - sometimes my foggers will 'whistle' haven't had that happen on Kaiser yet but may be too soon to tell.

Not sure the ceramic cup does anything other than allow for a single large center air hole and below deck side screw lead capture.

Really only down side I am having with Kaiser is much smaller juice capacity which is mitigated by top fill port.

 

[pmcode]

Came here from the rayon thread, where Tbev was harping on Fogger V4 qualities. Now, do you think this one would be a good choice?

Fogger V4 - Svapobar

Don't mind the text in the URL, it's supposed to be a V4.

I'm asking because if I look at this "authentic" one Authentic Fogger V4 4 Rebuildable Atomizer Yi Loong SS or Black RBA RTA 4 4 | eBay it seems to differ in there not being the engraved Fogger writing on its side. So, maybe, the one sold by Svapobar it's just a bad clone, I don't know.

Thanks for the help.

The svapobar is either a clone or is the first ever fogger v4 version. Based on the AFC ring at least.


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That is most definitely the very first version of the Fogger 4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. I have that exact one. The only issue I know of is some people did not like how loose the spin on the AFC ring was. It is not threaded like later releases. Fixable with a piece of dental floss stuck behind the ring, or disassemble and squeeze the ring to make it not perfectly round, so it "binds" a little.

Hope that helps.

 

[gorman]

Ta Dah,! . . Here you go Gorman.

Authentic Fogger V4 4 Rebuildable Atomizer Yi Loong SS or Black RBA RTA 4 4 | eBay
Stainless Fogger V4 RBA Atomizer Ships Free USA Seller in Stock | eBay

Soooo... between the 4.4 and the 4.1 you suggest getting the 4.1 from Vapetasia?