Formaldehyde in Juice?

[Stratm69]

It appears that more and more studies are finding formaldehyde being released in ejuice when the voltage is 5 volts or higher. Anything lower than 5 volts and no trace of formaldehyde is being detected. Also, the formaldehyde detected is 15X stronger than that found in a normal cigarette.

Since formaldehyde is a carninogen, what does that mean for us vapers if we are chain vaping on sub-ohm devices and etc everyday? That's a lot of formaldehyde we are taking in each day...

I'm kind of scared at this point for my health...

Will we be seeing formaldehyde-free juice once the FDA steps in? How would that even work?

 

[Spencer87]

Any links from these studies. take a look at the media and general news section to read about where this has been refuted

 

[beckdg]

Will we be seeing formaldehyde-free juice once the FDA steps in? How would that even work?

zero chance they're going to make anything safer... ever.

 

[AndriaD]

All that formaldehyde crap is just that, pure unadulterated crap. No human being would vape something to the point that formaldehyde is formed, because that's way beyond where it would be tolerable to any human being to taste or inhale.

Just more.. what is that acronym... FUD? Good word.

Andria

 

[Spencer87]

Brace yourselves new Formaldehype junk study to be released Jan 21 | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[HauntedMyst]

Look at it this way, formaldehyde is used to preserve dead people and you are jump starting the process so by the time you die, you'll look FABULOUS!!! People will be like "It's sad he died so young, he looks 30!" and then someone will step in and say "What are you talking about? He was 88"

 

[skoony]

what bothers me is formaldehyde was used as a food preservative for quite
some time with no apparent ill effects.
apparently there is some dispute if its even cancerous.

• Formaldehyde is a colorless, flammable, strong-smelling chemical that is used in building materials and to produce many household products.
• Formaldehyde sources in the home include pressed-wood products, cigarette smoke, and fuel-burning appliances.
• When exposed to formaldehyde, some individuals may experience various short-term effects.
• Formaldehyde has been classified as a known human carcinogen (cancer-causing substance) by the International Agency for Research on Cancer and as a probable human carcinogen by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.
• Research studies of workers exposed to formaldehyde have suggested an association between formaldehyde exposure and several cancers, including nasopharyngeal cancer and leukemia.

Formaldehyde and Cancer Risk - National Cancer Institute

other than an association there does not seam to any hard evidence.
i wonder what was used to replace it in food?
regards
mike

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Look at it this way, formaldehyde is used to preserve dead people and you are jump starting the process so by the time you die, you'll look FABULOUS!!! People will be like "It's sad he died so young, he looks 30!" and then someone will step in and say "What are you talking about? He was 88"

I add formaldehyde to my DIY juice, Gives my vape that new carpet smell. Good stuff.

WARNING: Do not try this at home, I am a professional idiot.

 

[caramel]

I add formaldehyde to my DIY juice, Gives my vape that new carpet smell. Good stuff.
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Guess you're missing the carpet glue that glorious government mandated to be used in cigarettes as "fire ......ant"?

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Guess you're missing the carpet glue that glorious government mandated to be used in cigarettes as "fire ......ant"?

Gives my old truck that new car smell when vaping while driving.

 

[CarolT]

what bothers me is formaldehyde was used as a food preservative for quite
some time with no apparent ill effects.
apparently there is some dispute if its even cancerous.

• Formaldehyde is a colorless, flammable, strong-smelling chemical that is used in building materials and to produce many household products.
• Formaldehyde sources in the home include pressed-wood products, cigarette smoke, and fuel-burning appliances.
• When exposed to formaldehyde, some individuals may experience various short-term effects.
• Formaldehyde has been classified as a known human carcinogen (cancer-causing substance) by the International Agency for Research on Cancer and as a probable human carcinogen by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.
• Research studies of workers exposed to formaldehyde have suggested an association between formaldehyde exposure and several cancers, including nasopharyngeal cancer and leukemia.

Formaldehyde and Cancer Risk - National Cancer Institute

other than an association there does not seam to any hard evidence.
i wonder what was used to replace it in food?
regards
mike

People should know better than to trust the National Cancer Institute, because charlatans are in the driver's seat there. Namely, the charlatans who ignore the role of infection in order to falsely blame peoples' lifestyles. Those charlatans falsely blame formaldehyde for nasopharyngeal cancer, while ignoring the fact that virtually all NPC in humans is caused by Epstein-Barr virus. Only a few of their studies even considered EBV, and the single one in the IARC assessment found an RR of 170 (that's right, one hundred and seventy!) for EBV, compared with a puny adjusted RR of 1.6 (95% CI = 0.91-2.9) for formaldehyde, which is non-significant. And as a formaldehyde study, it was pathetic, because it didn't even have actual exposures, just guesses by an industrial hygienist based on job titles.

Likewise with the NTP. Their SOLE reference on EBV is a study which claimed to find a risk among current smokers of more than 60 pack-years. However, the only EBV-related parameter considered was "diagnosis of infectious mononucleosis," which is associated with EBV infection later in life (whereas EBV infection early in life is characteristic of areas where NPC is endemic, and also occurs earlier among smokers, for socioeconomic reasons). None of the so-called experts had any experience whatsoever concerning the role of viruses in human cancers, including the NTP Formaldehyde Panel and the non-voting Technical Experts to the Panel. And the industry "experts" were cut from the same cloth!

Chemicals

 

[Kent C]

It appears that more and more studies are finding formaldehyde being released in ejuice when the voltage is 5 volts or higher. Anything lower than 5 volts and no trace of formaldehyde is being detected. Also, the formaldehyde detected is 15X stronger than that found in a normal cigarette.

Since formaldehyde is a carninogen, what does that mean for us vapers if we are chain vaping on sub-ohm devices and etc everyday? That's a lot of formaldehyde we are taking in each day...

I'm kind of scared at this point for my health...

Will we be seeing formaldehyde-free juice once the FDA steps in? How would that even work?

There's no formaldehyde 'in the juice'.

The formaldehyde created from high heat is about 1/10 of a cigarette (from one study). And one researcher put this in perspective:

That 1/10th is from high temps. At lower temps there is zero levels of formaldehyde. Even at somewhat high (1.5ohm at 9.5Watts) they said it wasn't any more than the air we breathe.

The zero level, was reported in a study by Peter Hayek, et al. One of his comments on the Pankow/Peyton.. Portland State U study:

"When a chicken is burned, the resulting black crisp will contain carcinogens but that does not mean that chicken are carcinogenic."

Iow, like eliquid, no chicken has formaldehyde as an innate property. Burn either and you can create it.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

No problems for tootle puffers the formaldehyde is produced at higher wattages.

 

[ckquatt]

No problems for tootle puffers the formaldehyde is produced at higher wattages.

See!! There are upsides to being a Tootle Puffer!!

Come on everybody join us today!!

 

[beckdg]

No problems for tootle puffers the formaldehyde is produced at higher wattages.

wrong

it's produced at higher temperatures.

if your protank only handles up to 8 watts, but you turn it up to 11 constantly because 8 doesn't produce enough for you (tootle pooter or not), you need a device that handles power better and produces more vapor.

otherwise you may be vaping acrolein. (the aldehyde in question... which is not formaldehyde like has been posted.)

 

[Thrasher]

There's no formaldehyde 'in the juice'.

The formaldehyde created from high heat is about 1/10 of a cigarette (from one study). And one researcher put this in perspective:

That 1/10th is from high temps. At lower temps there is zero levels of formaldehyde. Even at somewhat high (1.5ohm at 9.5Watts) they said it wasn't any more than the air we breathe.

The zero level, was reported in a study by Peter Hayek, et al. One of his comments on the Pankow/Peyton.. Portland State U study:

"When a chicken is burned, the resulting black crisp will contain carcinogens but that does not mean that chicken are carcinogenic."

Iow, like eliquid, no chicken has formaldehyde as an innate property. Burn either and you can create it.

Yes, but I like to marinate my chickens in formaldehyde before burning them for a nice even black coating, and I run my ce4 clearos at 35 watts, cause it tastes like burnt chicken just like mamma used to make.

 

[beckdg]

Yes, but I like to marinate my chickens in formaldehyde before burning them for a nice even black coating, and I run my ce4 clearos at 35 watts, cause it tastes like burnt chicken just like mamma used to make.

that's the spirit.

 

[Kent C]

Yes, but I like to marinate my chickens in formaldehyde before burning them for a nice even black coating, and I run my ce4 clearos at 35 watts, cause it tastes like burnt chicken just like mamma used to make.

Cajun Boba's Bounty!

 

[Thrasher]

These studies are so blatantly biased its not funny, you get more formaldehyde and arsenic exposure touching a piece of pressure treated lumber at home depot



Mmm mmm call it 3c -cajun clearo coils

 

[Robert Cromwell]

wrong

it's produced at higher temperatures.

if your protank only handles up to 8 watts, but you turn it up to 11 constantly because 8 doesn't produce enough for you (tootle pooter or not), you need a device that handles power better and produces more vapor.

otherwise you may be vaping acrolein. (the aldehyde in question... which is not formaldehyde like has been posted.)

Ahh but I do not overvape my tootle tanks. I do not make small weather fronts full of body pickling juice.