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if I am looking for an answer to a question/problem and there is lots of chit chat...then I post my question...with in 5 min...I have about 10+ solutions/answers to my questions...
...lots of chit chat = lots of answers ..if ya just ask...jmo
...lots of chit chat = lots of answers ..if ya just ask...jmo
if I am looking for an answer to a question/problem and there is lots of chit chat...then I post my question...with in 5 min...I have about 10+ solutions/answers to my questions...
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The truth is that if it weren't for the chit chat may of the most knowledgeable people wouldn't even post here on the forums. As I've heard many times in Live chat "You can only answer the same question about 100 times before you get sick of it..."
Then the only problem with that, is that when the experienced people give up on answering those, the noobs try to. It's always fun when I go into a newbie thread and read all the horrible advice given. "No, that 901 with 2 batterys and 1 atty will last you FOREVER!!" It's sad really....
They just need to get pointed in the right direction...If all else fails, Pm works great to an elder that knows about things the member is asking about.Also the info pages , which I have read are VERY handy...it took alot of work to put those together & I have read them & found they answer huge amounts of questions and are quite easy to navigate.
There's also "Ask The Veterans" if you can't find an answer. No need to spend hours weeding through threads.
If there's no chitchat, there's really no ECF.
If this place becomes just information only web site, many veterans will leave. We stick around so we can help people but that will change if a handful of people can't ask a question and wait 5 seconds for a quick answer.
People need to learn to use "all" the features of the "advanced search". It's very easy if you want to see one posters postings, without having to drill down through threads. If you come up with tons of useless information, then refine your search a bit.
All in all, you get exactly what you're willing to put into it.
If there's no chitchat, there's really no ECF.
If this place becomes just information only web site, many veterans will leave. We stick around so we can help people but that will change if a handful of people can't ask a question and wait 5 seconds for a quick answer.
People need to learn to use "all" the features of the "advanced search". It's very easy if you want to see one posters postings, without having to drill down through threads. If you come up with tons of useless information, then refine your search a bit.
All in all, you get exactly what you're willing to put into it.
It nice to have a thread about too much chit-chat that IS chit-chat. Some people need to get there panties out of a bunch.
As you can see from my post count I don't say much but this crap about not letting people help out is just ridiculous. I thought that is what ECF was for.
As you can see from my post count I don't say much but this crap about not letting people help out is just ridiculous. I thought that is what ECF was for.
If you're looking for updates from a supplier one of the best methods is to go to their profile and click on find all posts. This will show all their posts starting with the most recent. I used to do this a lot with jeffakamax, the maker of the Chuck. The Saturday thread was always so full of chit chat that it would save me the time of reading through all the socializing and get me to the pictures of the latest pron a lot quicker.
Hi m14racer, welcome to the forums, how has your visit with us been so far? hehe j/k
hehe j/k
Coming here as a noob not so very long ago, I didn't even have enough knowledge to know what to search for, or what to ask, or whom to ask. Much like BMWJen, whom I respect greatly, I belong to a truck forum, two car forums, and two gun forums. They're straightforward, all right...ask a SPECIFIC question, and it BETTER be in the right section, and you'd BETTER already know what you're talking about, and MAYBE in a week or three someone will post something resembling a useful answer other than "Just buy a Ford/Dodge/Colt or you suck"...you get the idea. What I loved about here, and what has kept me here a LOT and kept me off analogs for three months is that there are ALWAYS people here chatting it up. I lurked along until I didn't feel completely stoopid anymore, started asking questions, and IMMEDIATELY got thoughtful, articulate answers, advice, links, pics, offers to send me things to try, or other/better people to ask. I stumbled into the Lavacorps thread the other day and was immediately lost, and overwhelmed, and had no idea who Jon was or how to even look at a Lavatank...so I asked one question...and five minutes later I knew everything there was to know about the tank, how to get one, what colors there were, how much they were, how they worked, how great they worked, and had seven links to videos to watch. Who needs a search function? Word of mouth and live answers is FAR better. Viva la chit-chat!
google is much better than any forum search software
I have a question for ya, oldsoldier and I'm not trying to be a smarta$$. If someone in a thread asks for a sale date and time, would we be in violation of the rules if we post the time and date? It would appear we would be in violation since we're helping the supplier and the user.
Grammie that is a valid question, so I'll give you my best shot at an answer.
Generally helping people out by answering a question is fine. The part that gets people in a bind with the mod team is when they start spamming / schilling /overly promoting a vendor in inappropriate ways/places. When one starts to post "with authority" about a vendor, then you can be sure they are going to be warned.
I hope this answers your question suitably. It is a "gray area" in a lot of cases. So the mod team has broad discretionary authority to handle each case based on posting history and the trend of the thread in question.
My personal thoughts on the matter:
Being a helpful part of the community is always appreciated. But... when someone crosses the line and becomes a zealot fanboy/fangirl the community as a whole tends to disregard that person. Zealotry often leads to a flame war between the opposing camps.
Thanks for the reply oldsoldier, very much appreciated.
There's a lot of gray area. But this sort of reminds me that we have anti-social people on the forum. We're already dealing with the Anti-ecig people and to find both in ECF is depressing.
There's a lot of gray area. But this sort of reminds me that we have anti-social people on the forum. We're already dealing with the Anti-ecig people and to find both in ECF is depressing.
I don't think anybody wants to lose the question/answer posts that relate to the topic of the thread. That's highly valuable. It's all the "good morning's.... good night's....I'm having a bad day at work....watcha having for breakfast, etc" that, for me, clog things up and make the forum unweildy and less helpful to use. I still think it would be best if that stuff could be sectioned off to its own space. Apparently, it's not possible.
Yeah but its that community in that thread that keep people coming back. Without the chit-chat in threads people wouldn't still be here on this site because i think most have posted about everything they are interested in posting about. Like everyone in this thread has said.... All it takes is asking ONE time and you will have all the answers you need.
The chit chat and "Groups" in these threads (i.e Lavacorps, Reonaughts, Darwinians, Hogaholics, GRIP family etc.) are what makes it fun because not only are you interacting with people who like e-cigs but you are interacting with people who like the same products you do so all the answers can be found in that thread by TONS of helpful people with just one time of asking. The e-cig community is so strong because of the bonds formed between friends here and the helpful people that never bash "newbs" like most other forums would. Without the chit chat its useless and the whole community will fail.
I believe the small scale suppliers can only have 2 threads going in the Suppliers Sub-Forum. Is that not correct?
There used to be an Outside for forum suppliers user groups section, the place for chit-chat among users. That no longer exists, so we are left with only limited places we can post about a specific supplier. If we can't post chit-chat there, we may as well just leave, there's no where for us.
There used to be an Outside for forum suppliers user groups section, the place for chit-chat among users. That no longer exists, so we are left with only limited places we can post about a specific supplier. If we can't post chit-chat there, we may as well just leave, there's no where for us.
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There used to be a place but it's no longer available.
There is a place, it's been added back. Trying to get information on that part of the forum.
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Good point. I wasn't really thinking of it that way, but then I'm not necessarily looking for a "community" to join. I agree that the helpfulness and generosity of most folks on this forum is great. Wouldn't want to lose that. I guess that means that it will always be necessary to click through pages and pages of chat to get to the meat. Probably a small price to pay to maintain the vibrancy of the forum.
I belong to two e-cigarette forums and I have found the members of both of them to be very friendly and social. Maybe we vapers are just a different breed, compared to other forums.
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