Forum etiquette question for Reonauts

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pianoguy

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Whenever the situation seems right, I have no problem pointing a relatively new user to this sub-forum to learn more about the REO's. I think that a REO is a pretty low-risk proposition, given the quality and simplicity of the device, the wealth of knowledge and help available here, and the resale value in the event that it doesn't work out for whatever reason.
 

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Ah, you all have voiced both sides of the debate in my head! Oh how I don't want to come off like certain *ahem* provari *ahem* pushers:blink:. As you suggest, I will continue to deliberate, on a case by case basis, who'll really benefit from the best advise I have to give. But it really would be in the hopes of saving folks (especially fellow former 2 PAD+ers) money (not to mention oodles of frustration), in the long run, that I'd be advising it. I guess we're all still so blown away that my aunt is no longer ensconced in her own little cloud of foul Merit smoke.... I know I'll knock off this silly over-thinking once my little, green cloud-machine finds its way to its new, furry home:D!
 

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Perhaps answering their questions with these or similar questions help us know when to help:

Do you like the idea of filling cartos? (if the answer is yes then don't recommend REO).

Do you like the idea of having to carry back up cartos, tank parts, batteries, juice and backup devices around everywhere you go? (if the answer is yes then don't recommend REO).

Do you like the idea of depending on several devices, like one for home, one for in the car, one for hiking in the woods, one for the church parking lot and one to show off (leds, blinking lights, chrome finish, sloshing tank of juice) at vaping circle jerk parties? (if the answer is yes then don't recommend REO).

Does the idea if vaping on a big, shiny tube appeal to you? (if the answer is yes then don't recommend REO).

Does the idea of putting your faith in a plastic bottom feeder to "save money" appeal to you? (if the answer is yes then don't recommend REO).

Do you want to put a lot of work into vaping only to get mediocre results (if the answer is yes then dont recommend REO).

Do you want a device that can't stand on its own and needs a holder? (if the answer is yes then dont recommend REO).

Do you believe that spending over $200 on a device makes you special and your device is some sort of status symbol? (if the answer is yes then don't recommend REO).


See, it's kind of easy to weed out the tools.
 
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Just for fun, I did the math. Average cost of a pack of Cigs in the US as of this past summer was around $6.75 (you gotta love google :) ).

If you bought a Grand (@150), 2 AW IMR 18650's (@25), a charger (@15), and a couple of attys (@10), it's roughly $200.00.

That's 30 packs of cigarettes (1.5 cartons)

So, add in some juice of your choice, and you'd have a Grand ready to go, for about the cost of 2 cartons of cigarettes. I, too, tend to think of vaping devices as expensive, but that sort of puts it into a better perspective (I used to smoke @5 cartons a month)
 

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    Kinda funny, but my wife never seemed to notice the 7-15$ I spent every day for cigarettes, but dame! does she ever notice when I spend $150 for a PV. So sure, investment costs for a good PV do make a deference ... perceptions if nothing else.

    The way I look at it is that my opinions are just that, my opinions, and everyone is welcome to do with them as they wish. No skin off my nose if someone thinks "oh that's just tj talking out of his ........ again".
    Most likely I will tell the total noob that it doesn't really matter what they buy, just don't spend a lot of money for it. If they find that they like vaping then look around for something better.
    For those looking to upgrade that live in the US, there are three different PV's that I feel confident in suggesting, Reo being one of them.
     

    TennDave

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    I've turned numerous people onto Reo's and most have stuck with it. There is one lady though that I pretty much gifted a mini too. Recently I learned that she is using Ego Twists exclusively and never could "get" the Reo, so she's offered to give the Reo back to me. So, it's not for everyone, although I think most do "get" it and if introduced to the Reo.
     

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    Just for fun, I did the math. Average cost of a pack of Cigs in the US as of this past summer was around $6.75 (you gotta love google :) ).

    If you bought a Grand (@150), 2 AW IMR 18650's (@25), a charger (@15), and a couple of attys (@10), it's roughly $200.00.

    That's 30 packs of cigarettes (1.5 cartons)

    So, add in some juice of your choice, and you'd have a Grand ready to go, for about the cost of 2 cartons of cigarettes. I, too, tend to think of vaping devices as expensive, but that sort of puts it into a better perspective (I used to smoke @5 cartons a month)

    Must be a sign of age ... maybe in Virginia, where they grow lots of tobacco, they have 20 packs in a carton, but I remember paying near $63 for a carton that only had 10 packs. I do love Google and you also made your point very well ... when it comes down to it, money isn't an issue.

    I think everyone would agree that vaping is a learning experience and that everyone learns differently. The terminology alone that we use is overwhelming to someone that's thinking about e-cigs, but the compelling reason we should convey to a smoker is to quit and whatever device helps them do that is the best device for them at that time, although a REO is probably the best made all-in-one device on the market.
     

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    Dano, you're our new "poster child".....you're doing so well. Isn't vaping fun?


    awwww youth

    just kidding.

    i'm trying to stay positive and realize the enormity of whats happened since my first post( see below)






    Time for a change.



    First of all, i'm not a preist lol.

    I do have alot of kids though.(6 boys)

    I work in the trades and run work for a large outfit.


    I had a guy on my jobsite who was using a REO ?, he let me try it and it seemed like it could be my answer to quit smoking.

    I average about 35 smokes a day.(Marlboro Special Blend Gold)

    My question is, what do i need to get started?
    Money is not an issue.

    Thanks in advance

    dano

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    ^^^^^^
    That was my first post on ecf
     

    JC Okie

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    awwww youth

    just kidding.

    i'm trying to stay positive and realize the enormity of whats happened since my first post( see below)






    Time for a change.



    First of all, i'm not a preist lol.

    I do have alot of kids though.(6 boys)

    I work in the trades and run work for a large outfit.


    I had a guy on my jobsite who was using a REO ?, he let me try it and it seemed like it could be my answer to quit smoking.

    I average about 35 smokes a day.(Marlboro Special Blend Gold)

    My question is, what do i need to get started?
    Money is not an issue.

    Thanks in advance

    dano

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    ^^^^^^
    That was my first post on ecf


    I hate to talk in cliches, and I especially hate to use a cigarette commercial to make a point, but "You've come a long way, baby" just comes to mind. :)

    Vaping in general, and REOs specifically, are life-changers. I smoked for over 40 years and had just finally given in to it. For the first 20 years, I never thought about it; for the last 20 years, I constantly thought about how I was powerless against it, and had resigned myself to dying of some smoking-related disease. When I tried that first e-cig from the mall kiosk, I KNEW (for the first time ever) that I could quit smoking. It wasn't great, but it didn't have to be. It gave me hope. It changed my life. Now it seems like the most exciting thing in the world is to watch others have the same success. We're watching you......:)

    -Jan-
     
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    fatherdano

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    thanks Jan

    i know i'm a newbie, but without beating my chest and saying what a tough guy i am, i was defeated by smoking and i knew it.

    i actually have a skip in my step each day that i'm not puffing. i'm bragging to my 2yr old and making my 16 yr old look at my sig to see how many smokes i havn't smoked.

    20 + yrs of bad habits won't go away in 2 weeks and i know that.

    I have to think though that something this effective is gonna open some eyes for alot of people.

    How is this not main stream yet?
     

    oldbroad

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    thanks Jan

    i know i'm a newbie, but without beating my chest and saying what a tough guy i am, i was defeated by smoking and i knew it.

    i actually have a skip in my step each day that i'm not puffing. i'm bragging to my 2yr old and making my 16 yr old look at my sig to see how many smokes i havn't smoked.

    20 + yrs of bad habits won't go away in 2 weeks and i know that.

    I have to think though that something this effective is gonna open some eyes for alot of people.

    How is this not main stream yet?

    I think we could look at it as "underground mai nstream". There's literally millions of non smokers since the ecig, in whatever form, started, all over the world.
    If you wanr , go the the main ECF site and you'll see all the forums from all over the world.
     

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    I've turned numerous people onto Reo's and most have stuck with it. There is one lady though that I pretty much gifted a mini too. Recently I learned that she is using Ego Twists exclusively and never could "get" the Reo, so she's offered to give the Reo back to me. So, it's not for everyone, although I think most do "get" it and if introduced to the Reo.

    Although I like to down play it my DH really does prefer Mini Vivi Nova tanks on eGo VV batteries but mainly because they are so over-stuff shirt pocket friendly. And honestly, the Nova tanks do give a nice vape. So, last night when I picked him up at airport, from three long days out of town, he said he was on his last eGo battery, that he'd been using all day, as it appeared his charger wasn't working and he'd appreciate if I gave him a REO when we got home. Well............ I just got my Silver Mini back from him Wed morning when he left (and my almost pristine Mini had some new marks on it and his Mini is packaged up for a trip to REO Spa) so I put his tank on Buzz Pro when we got home. He is pretty amazed that people actually use the larger than eGo battery mods and larger tanks as their main go-to PVs. And Buzz Pro is on the small/light size for a quality VV tube mod. And Mini ViVi tank is no larger diameter than eGo battery. (VV REOs use the same controller chip that is used in Buzz Pro.)

    I had a GGTS, Provari and still have a Mini GLV, Buzz Pro, Kicked Don, and Rough Stack and I honestly can't recommend any of them as daily go-to PVs. They don't travel well, aren't as tough, and most of the tanks for them are too fussy and/or complicated. And a lot of people just don't like "sucking" what looks and feels like a s*x toy.

    If new vapers want something closer to an analog look and feel I feel very comfortable steering them to the eGo battery and Mini ViVi Nova tank. Decent quality, not too expensive, not fussy, and good enough vape to keep them vaping.

    Feisty Alice
     

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    Must be a sign of age ... maybe in Virginia, where they grow lots of tobacco, they have 20 packs in a carton, but I remember paying near $63 for a carton that only had 10 packs. I do love Google and you also made your point very well ... when it comes down to it, money isn't an issue.

    I think everyone would agree that vaping is a learning experience and that everyone learns differently. The terminology alone that we use is overwhelming to someone that's thinking about e-cigs, but the compelling reason we should convey to a smoker is to quit and whatever device helps them do that is the best device for them at that time, although a REO is probably the best made all-in-one device on the market.

    When DH and I started vaping in late summer 2010 our 10 pack cartons were $65-$67 per carton at Costco. We were buying 4-5 cartons a week. DH still purchased an occasional pack for months. He paid $8-$12 a single pack. YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     

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    I have to think though that something this effective is gonna open some eyes for alot of people.

    How is this not main stream yet?

    On that subject, twice this week already I've seen ads for BLU ecigs on TV! I know they aren't great, but hey, anything that makes the public more aware, IMHO, is worthwhile. They stressed the "no smell, no harm to others" mantra, so I'm pleased to see it. If it just gets a few thousand people to try ecigs, YAY!
     

    TennDave

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    On that subject, twice this week already I've seen ads for BLU ecigs on TV! I know they aren't great, but hey, anything that makes the public more aware, IMHO, is worthwhile. They stressed the "no smell, no harm to others" mantra, so I'm pleased to see it. If it just gets a few thousand people to try ecigs, YAY!

    The killer store e-cig right now is the nJoy Kings...it comes with 45mg/ml of nic in it...that's enough to squelch the nic addition.
    Problem in the past has been for folks trying to get off of ciggies- nicotine was too low- just not enough!
     

    oldbroad

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    The killer store e-cig right now is the nJoy Kings...it comes with 45mg/ml of nic in it...that's enough to squelch the nic addition.
    Problem in the past has been for folks trying to get off of ciggies- nicotine was too low- just not enough!

    Holy cow!! I started with 36mg and thought that was too potent!
     

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    From my experience, I just wish I had known about REO's four years ago. I started off with the penstyle, too, then the 510, KR808, Ego, Ego Twist (could never bring myself to fork out for the big mods, though - the image of a 'mature' woman vaping on something like that was disconcerting, to say the least!). Through all that I went from the early crappy cartos, 'stuffing' cartos with whatever was the latest and greatest best thing at the time, tea-bag mods, you name it ... until, quite frankly, I gave up for awhile. Got sick and tired of all the fuss and muss involved and really wasn't getting any lasting satisfaction. Actually I think there is still a video out there in YouTube land taken with a crappy webcam where I won a contest from the good old days, LOLOL.

    Anyway, I dropped off the vaping wagon for a whole year because of all that. Came back to Ego's, then Ego Twist and finally tried my first bottom feeder a few months ago. I was hooked! Due to an unfortunate circumstance, I am currently without said mod for the time being but the experience was enough to convince me that I needed to get a REO. Like I said ... wish I had known about them a long time ago. Would have saved me a carload of money and endless frustration.

    That said, I totally understand where a lot of people are coming from money-wise. There ain't a great deal of it floating around this household either and it is a significant purchase. Certainly not the most expensive possibility out there but enough to make you think. If someone really can't afford it, then I would never push it or make them feel bad about it. There are other decent options out there to get them started and, really, that's what it is all about. However, if someone made it known that they did have the financial ability, I would absolutely recommend that they research the REO. Then again, there are people out there who love to fiddle and the simplicity of a bottom feeder would simply not appeal to them.

    Just my :2c:
     
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