Found a medical review of vaporizers... this is for a veteran who looks at this area more than I do.

[Terren505]

www. realfarmacy .com /study-reveals-e-cigarettes-toxic/ - Study Reveals E-Cigarettes Contain Formaldehyde and Produce Toxic Secondhand
Is there a place on the forum for similar info? I haven't found it yet and I wouldn't be able to post on it. I'm still new to the forum.

 

[gandymarsh]

Looks like FUD to me.

There are many other studies out there that don't support the findings in that article.

No one is saying that vaping is 100% safe but smoking tobacco has been proven to cause a multitude of health problems.

 

[elenamylove]

Looks like FUD to me.

There are many other studies out there that don't support the findings in that article.

No one is saying that vaping is 100% safe but smoking tobacco has been proven to cause a multitude of health problems.

Pardon my ignorance, FUD?

 

[Reverend Brimstone]

Pardon my ignorance, FUD?

Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.

FUD is shorthand for information strictly used to spread the above

 

[Anjaffm]

Never mind that silly article. It is pure and simple fearmongering bovine excrement.

Vaping is a lot safer than smoking - approx 95% safer. And no fearmongering nonsense will change that.

For a real study, please see here:
Peering through the mist: systematic review of what the chemistry of contaminants in electronic cigarettes tells us about health risks

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FUD = fear, uncertainty and doubt. Fear, uncertainty and doubt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It is a means of propaganda. If you have no logical argument, then try to make your target fear something.

Like this fearmongering nonsense article: scare smokers of "ultrafine particles that penetrate deep into the lungs" (*gasp* DANGER!!!! ) - without mentioning that
1. in e-cig vapor, those are in liquid form. Whereas in cigarette smoke, they are in solid form. Solid = potentially dangerous. Liquid = harmless.
2. the very smallest ultrafine particles are water vapor. And everybody knows that water vapor does not cause lung cancer.

 

[Amraann]

This has been discussed on here 100 times and the article has been debunked and said to be junk science.

 

[Justin Daugherty]

Ty anna, I was gonna ask if anyone hada link to a good study hah

 

[Anjaffm]

Ty anna, I was gonna ask if anyone hada link to a good study hah

my pleasure.

A fountain of knowledge is the page of CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association.

 

[Oliver]

For clarity - the "approximately 95% safer" is a minimum. There are researchers who believe it to be much safer even than that - but 95% is a good ballpark as a conservative estimate.

 

[elenamylove]

my pleasure.

A fountain of knowledge is the page of CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association.

Thanks for the link, I will make sure to check that out. I should have used Google on the FUD question, sorry about that all.

 

[Coupon78]

Dr. Konstantio Farcilinos (I know I just killed his name). If you want ACTUAL medical data on the safety of Vaping, look him up. He is a most amazing supporter of ours. CASAA was mentioned but there is also The Vaping Militia, SAFATA and a few others. There is so much propaganda floating around that its just sickening.

 

[roosterado]

No Worries This is the place to ask questions. Welcome to the forum----

Thanks for the link, I will make sure to check that out. I should have used Google on the FUD question, sorry about that all.

 

[jbru]

www. realfarmacy .com /study-reveals-e-cigarettes-toxic/ - Study Reveals E-Cigarettes Contain Formaldehyde and Produce Toxic Secondhand
Is there a place on the forum for similar info? I haven't found it yet and I wouldn't be able to post on it. I'm still new to the forum.

The link you provided was only someone's synopsis of an article, and was pretty one sided.
There was a link to read the actual article, which I thought was actually pretty interesting and not FUD at all.
It brings up some good points about the integrity of ejuice vendors and potential consequences of spilling ejuice on skin or accidentally swallowing it(which most people were prob already aware of). It also discusses the addictiveness and health affects of nicotine.
The article did mention that there was a study that showed 2nd hand inhalation of PG by children MAY cause asthma, but failed to provide any other info about said study.
There were some inaccuracies, such as stating that ecig users need to suck harder than they would for a traditional cig.
Overall the article was a good read, and what I took out of it was to make sure you buy from quality ejuice vendors.

 

[AndriaD]

I think it's hilarious when they say that vapor "may cause asthma".... When I was first diagnosed with adult-onset asthma almost 30 yrs ago, of course that was one of my first questions to the doc: "what causes it?" And get this: THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT CAUSES ASTHMA. Best they can come up with is a) genetic tendency; if one parent has or ever had asthma, a child has a 25% chance of also having or developing asthma; if both parents, a 50% chance of having or developing it; b) some chemical exposure (to a wide range of chemicals, but different for every person), or other causes such as stress, weeping, laughing, etc, may bring on "asthmatic symptoms" -- which is NOT the same as "having or developing asthma;" it just means that something irritated your bronchioles and made them constrict, which causes "tightness" and wheezing.

If a person ACTUALLY HAS BRONCHIAL ASTHMA, then any exposure to any "sulfiting agent" WILL bring on an asthma attack, or potentially even complete pulmonary collapse. But there are no 'sulfiting agents' in ejuice. Because propylene glycol (PG) *can* be irritating, it can potentially cause "asthmatic symptoms," but again, that is NOT the same as "having or developing asthma."

Andria

 

[deyaonious]

i'm newtoo

 

[iamthevoice]

Real Farmacy! Sounds legit...

 

[93gc40]

OK technically by EPA standards we are all gross polluters, everytime we exhale, AIR. It is safe to assume that if you are inhaling anything OTHER than plain air you will exhale somethings other than plain air and normal human exhaust gasses.. The main 1 being CO2, another being Formaldehyde. Ecigs are SAFER than analogs. They can not be said to be 100% safe. Nothing is, even water and oxygen are toxic or damaging at some point. You ever seen rusty metal or the Grand Canyon. Yep air and water the MOST destructive things on Earth.

 

[bilboda]

try the ecf page linked at the top. Great resource for beginners and veterans http://vaping.com/

 

[Sgt.Rock]

realfarmacy ..Seriously?

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

 

[Anjaffm]

Thanks for the link, I will make sure to check that out. I should have used Google on the FUD question, sorry about that all.

no problem at all
Do read the link please, and take a look at the CASAA page. The Drexel study is ... tough reading. The CASAA page is not. Good place to start is the CASAA - Electronic Cigarette FAQS

Dr. Konstantio Farcilinos (I know I just killed his name). If you want ACTUAL medical data on the safety of Vaping, look him up. He is a most amazing supporter of ours. CASAA was mentioned but there is also The Vaping Militia, SAFATA and a few others. There is so much propaganda floating around that its just sickening.

Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos Great scientist!
Interview on e-cigs here
You can find his latest writing on e-cigarettes here

And yes, there is a lot of fearmongering bovine excrement floating around against e-cigs. After all, there is a very profitable smoking gravy train going on. So many people making big money on smokers. And they are not happy about the idea of losing their cash cows, the smokers. Not happy at all. And money talks.

For clarity - the "approximately 95% safer" is a minimum. There are researchers who believe it to be much safer even than that - but 95% is a good ballpark as a conservative estimate.

Thank you I absolutely agree.