well they tried to hit my cc card after ordering from mtbaker vapor have not ordered anything on this card for over a month !!they tried several times over 1000.00 bucks luckily the card caught them and did not process but ill never order from them again . when i called Mtbaker they said they looked at their processors and saw no issues blah blah . granted they are cheap and have good juice but who wants to deal with the crap if you get jacked by the processors Rest in peace mtbakervapor Ill mix my own from now on :]
Fraud Charges 2nd Time This Year. !!!! Retailers get your **** together!!!
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sigh........ok, I give up, you win. the only way to be safe is to stop buying vaping supplies.......
really? is this necessary or helpful? I'm going to go buy something from them today, you are their best ad. I hate seeing vendors bad-mouthed without definite proof. I don't understand why ya'll think vendors don't care or aren't doing anything. I'll tell you who I am mad at...the thieves, that's who
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I don't even have a debit card and even I know they are like cash...........
sigh......badmouth ecigexpress all over the place, but when it's JC, it's different?
I hope you guys are letting the vendors know (nicely)
I hear ya. I'm fighting with my credit card company right now over a $148 charge. They claim I gave some guy in Washington state my credit card number so he could get a room in a Hilton Double Tree.
you know when your card is not used form over a month .and all you pay for is your med at walgreens and not used for anything else . and you buy from a vendor and the next morning you are hit proof enough for me just saying they need to do something is all im saying
I think there are lots of people missing the point. What's happening is not the vendors fault except for maybe a very few exceptions.
There is massive cyber attacks going on all over the world. It's covered in the news quite a bit. There have also been warning about rings of thieves that are doing everything from using electronics to read the cards right in your wallet or purse to those that install a fake front plates on ATMs, card readers at Walmart, the grocery store, gas stations, anywhere cards are accepted. The fake front plates record and store card information and are easily installed and removed by the criminals.
With all this going on I just don't understand why people are so quick to blame the vendors. This is just the reality we live in today.
All I do is keep a close watch on my bank accounts and credit card accounts. I had one problem and the bank caught it before I did. I have been using my cards to buy vaping items at various vendors since last July. Before that I have shopped heavily online for years. My one time was a few weeks ago and I really don't believe it had anything to do with buying ecigs.
There is massive cyber attacks going on all over the world. It's covered in the news quite a bit. There have also been warning about rings of thieves that are doing everything from using electronics to read the cards right in your wallet or purse to those that install a fake front plates on ATMs, card readers at Walmart, the grocery store, gas stations, anywhere cards are accepted. The fake front plates record and store card information and are easily installed and removed by the criminals.
With all this going on I just don't understand why people are so quick to blame the vendors. This is just the reality we live in today.
All I do is keep a close watch on my bank accounts and credit card accounts. I had one problem and the bank caught it before I did. I have been using my cards to buy vaping items at various vendors since last July. Before that I have shopped heavily online for years. My one time was a few weeks ago and I really don't believe it had anything to do with buying ecigs.
Because it happened the next morning after buying from a vendor proves nothing. Your card could have been compromised days, weeks, or months ago and just now got sold to someone who used it. Unless it can be traced directly to the vendor there is no proof.
Um, puttin words in my mouth...I am clearly stating that fraud also happens with cash and coins, please quote where I stated "Don't buy vaping supplies"...I am merely giving knowledge of fraud across the board vs just with CC's and online shopping. You are falsely accusing me of malicious misinformation, this thread is going so well...please don't stoop this low.
and this your opinion and what I have stated is mine And i have made up my mind so you can spout off all you want bout no proof the proof is in all the forums stating who everyone bought from . enough for me. take care . just stating my experience and sharing and if there processors have issues they in fact . Are gonna suffer it is the way it goes. get better security or they wont get my business period
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If that isn't a red flag, I don't know what is...Yes, the fraud schemes operate in ways of those who "hack" and or "crack" into databases containing CC and personal information to simply sell that data vs using it themselves. Within that operation it could take minutes, hours, days, weeks, and or months for that CC w/personal information to be used but when some people here are stating that they only use that CC for online shopping of ecigs...that really narrows it down to those vendors.
But than again in the end, your CC's in your wallet right now all have recycled numbers so the more sophisticated fraudsters whom are highly intelligent use that to their advantage to operate off the grid per say. Kinda like with identity theft with SS#'s, they too are recycled oh yeah even IP#'s are also recycled...in the end, it's numbers/math (Yuck).
I am in a holding pattern right now for this very reason. I am desperate need of liquid and supplies but I just can't risk it. I have seen so many posts about it that I opened a separate account with my bank and am waiting on the card to arrive. This way I can transfer only as much money as I am going to spend for vaping supplies and then place my order, leaving nothing for anyone to steal. The net result is the same as if I used a pre-paid debit card. No over-draft protection on this new card either so I feel a little more secure. Even though my bank offers some protection should my card info get stolen, I am not up for the hassle nor am I able to live without the money that I have in my account while the bank straightens it out.
Btw, I don't think it is a bad idea for the vendors to be posted when someone gets hacked from using their site. It is not their fault however it is their responsibility to pay attention and do whatever they can to ensure it does not happen anymore. If that means they change their processing company, so be it and they can pass that cost on to us. I think we would all be willing to pay a little more to make sure our money is as safe as possible.
Btw, I don't think it is a bad idea for the vendors to be posted when someone gets hacked from using their site. It is not their fault however it is their responsibility to pay attention and do whatever they can to ensure it does not happen anymore. If that means they change their processing company, so be it and they can pass that cost on to us. I think we would all be willing to pay a little more to make sure our money is as safe as possible.
I only use one online ecig vendor, ecigexpress.com. Not to say that they are the source of my fraud, but I've been hit three months in a row now, and each time I narrowed the number of places my card was used. Each of those cards were less than 3 weeks old when I used them. I read on here that ecigexpress has done extensive testing and found no problems. Nonetheless they have replaced their security system and switched processors. I'm sure there's more to the story, and I wish someone would come forward... If it's the processing company, then they should be fingered.
I filed a report with the FTC. Even though they will not investigate individual incidents, they can decide to investigate if they see a pattern. If enough people file a report, they will get to the bottom of it.
Here is the link to the FTC:
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ouncement-regarding-security.html#post9496598
I only use one online ecig vendor, ecigexpress.com. Not to say that they are the source of my fraud, but I've been hit three months in a row now, and each time I narrowed the number of places my card was used. Each of those cards were less than 3 weeks old when I used them. I read on here that ecigexpress has done extensive testing and found no problems. Nonetheless they have replaced their security system and switched processors. I'm sure there's more to the story, and I wish someone would come forward... If it's the processing company, then they should be fingered.
I filed a report with the FTC. Even though they will not investigate individual incidents, they can decide to investigate if they see a pattern. If enough people file a report, they will get to the bottom of it.
Here is the link to the FTC:
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov
I hope you also filed about every place you used that card also. Could be happening anywhere.
no, I am not putting words in your mouth. and I don't stoop low, check my posts on this forum if you like. you misunderstood what I wrote.
I said the only way to be 100% safe is to shop in a B&M and use cash. you said have you checked your cash to make sure it's not counterfeit. (I am not quoting either of us verbatim). then I said I give up, the only way to be 100% safe is to not buy vaping supplies.
you see? *I* said don't buy vaping supplies.
so actually you are falsely accusing me.
and that is why husband makes me put my CC in an annoying little envelope thing that supposedly protects it from being scanned in my purse/wallet.
IF the vendor can find another processor to change to. it has been stated and repeated numerous times that many processors won't deal with ecig companies.......
Re ECX... I guess only time and some guinea pigs is going to tell the story. I hope those buying there will post their experiences, fraud-wise, both good and bad. I hope they're all good of course but would appreciate the input either way.
What on earth are you talking about ? Are you trying to be funny ? Are you trying to be a troll ? Are you just trying to up your post count ?Am I just missing something here ?
Your posts in this thread have been some of the least helpful and just plain goofy posts I have ever seen. What is really bothering you ?
it's actually a little envelope type thing that has a silver lining. I think I've read you can use foil too, but yes, apparently they can scan the cards in your purse. I also think they can scan gift cards on display for sale, then somehow know when they are bought and filled with $$. it's annoying that we are so unsafe now...........
yes, no surprise, I was expecting that. <shrug>
the bank sent us the little envelope things............
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