LordDevon, I I know what you are talking about . I did the same with mine even went as far as to replacing the wicks I also paid for mine just to to be able to test them and I did put them through the wringer.
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They switched to stainless steel on the stone because it is sterile.i believe aluminum has an oxide layer and if not it leeches into your juice.Im not 100% on this.
Hey, man, I know you're trying and I respect your commitment. You brought a really cool product to market. There's a little glitch, that's all. Hopefullly it will get worked out.
Oh and also I am baffled too, I am not the expert that you are, but I am a "thinker" and a long-term vaper, and honestly I can't find any pattern to the leaking behaviour...it seems random. I've tried doing different things with filling/plug/pressure and it still happens...random.
Well, as it stands my second has not leaked today. I have been laying it on its side though.
Badkolo, the issue here is not with you per se, its just a culmination of issues going around.
The key term for me is "relative." I've been vaping for about 2 months. I have been through 10 cartomizers, 7 of which I ruined myself due to learning what not to do to them. The other 3 have just started to taste bad and I do not like cleaning these things very much. Creates a smell in the kitchen when boiling them out. I have yet to destroy a coil.
I also have my very first atomizer that is still kicking great, it was included in a kGo kit from HoosierSupply. All told, I think I have a pretty good track record of keeping these thing going.
However, I continue to try new items because I wish to improve my vaping experience. Make things easier and less fiddling with stuff through out the day so I can be productive with my life.
I will still try new things, as I purchased some Stardusts to take with me on vacation next week. I have found out they have cracking issues when using certian juices. That stinks because one of my favorite juices are Mt Dew which is a no-no.
As before, the C8 is an incredible idea for an item, and I am still using my second one. The problem is the risk versus reward. The risk being monetary cost of the item, cost of the spilled juice and possible damage from the leaking. Of course the rewards are simple to use, great flavor, good construction. I just simply can not find value in the $25 or so dollars I have spent to get 2 units, and them lasting less than a week. This isn't rocket science. I just think may be the price structure should reflect the risk/reward issue a bit better. Seriously, if these units were half the price I would have purchased 4, and they may have lasted at least 2 weeks. That same money spread over 2 weeks is a much better value.
This may be the reason you have only sold 400 units, just my opinion. I completely understand the need for profit level sustainability, but may be the factory that made these would understand their quality control is not up to standards. If this is the case and they still desire your business, then they should make good on these. May be they should improve the product and offer it at a discounted rate to those who have been the unfortunate beta testers, or continue offering this quality and simply replace the ones that fail too quickly.
That is a simple solution. Take it for what its worth, but I will not continue to support nonsensical business practices (not saying GotVapes, as I will continue to do business here). Hold the manufacturer accountable.
Badkolo, the issue here is not with you per se, its just a culmination of issues going around.
The key term for me is "relative." I've been vaping for about 2 months. I have been through 10 cartomizers, 7 of which I ruined myself due to learning what not to do to them. The other 3 have just started to taste bad and I do not like cleaning these things very much. Creates a smell in the kitchen when boiling them out. I have yet to destroy a coil.
I also have my very first atomizer that is still kicking great, it was included in a kGo kit from HoosierSupply. All told, I think I have a pretty good track record of keeping these thing going.
However, I continue to try new items because I wish to improve my vaping experience. Make things easier and less fiddling with stuff through out the day so I can be productive with my life.
I will still try new things, as I purchased some Stardusts to take with me on vacation next week. I have found out they have cracking issues when using certian juices. That stinks because one of my favorite juices are Mt Dew which is a no-no.
As before, the C8 is an incredible idea for an item, and I am still using my second one. The problem is the risk versus reward. The risk being monetary cost of the item, cost of the spilled juice and possible damage from the leaking. Of course the rewards are simple to use, great flavor, good construction. I just simply can not find value in the $25 or so dollars I have spent to get 2 units, and them lasting less than a week. This isn't rocket science. I just think may be the price structure should reflect the risk/reward issue a bit better. Seriously, if these units were half the price I would have purchased 4, and they may have lasted at least 2 weeks. That same money spread over 2 weeks is a much better value.
This may be the reason you have only sold 400 units, just my opinion. I completely understand the need for profit level sustainability, but may be the factory that made these would understand their quality control is not up to standards. If this is the case and they still desire your business, then they should make good on these. May be they should improve the product and offer it at a discounted rate to those who have been the unfortunate beta testers, or continue offering this quality and simply replace the ones that fail too quickly.
That is a simple solution. Take it for what its worth, but I will not continue to support nonsensical business practices (not saying GotVapes, as I will continue to do business here). Hold the manufacturer accountable.
ckone, excellent points!!! These manufactures are giving folks with good business practices a bad name. I feel bad for the small vapor shops, having to deal with all the crud and trying to get good products to thier customers. They have no consistancy with the manufacturing process and it's kind of a toss up what we as consumers will end up with, and then people like Chris and other vendors get the backlash.
I know Chris was really excited about the C8 and after watching his video, I definately was on board, it looked simple to fill and is pretty darn attractive little tank. After watching SteelJans video on filling upside down I tried that as well, it still did not work, the dumping for me was so random, I could not find a common thread in it.
I am pretty darned pleased that we as consumers have people like LordDavon who do great fix it videos and great how to's with the CE2's, as he has help me tremendously delv into the CE2 world, I just wish there was a fix it video for the C8's I want it to work out really bad, they are just so classy looking and the concept of them is awesome
I know Chris was really excited about the C8 and after watching his video, I definately was on board, it looked simple to fill and is pretty darn attractive little tank. After watching SteelJans video on filling upside down I tried that as well, it still did not work, the dumping for me was so random, I could not find a common thread in it.
I am pretty darned pleased that we as consumers have people like LordDavon who do great fix it videos and great how to's with the CE2's, as he has help me tremendously delv into the CE2 world, I just wish there was a fix it video for the C8's I want it to work out really bad, they are just so classy looking and the concept of them is awesome
Ok, it appears that people want as much info about these as possible so here's what I've found out so far in my use of one C8 for 8 days.
First, this sucker is the best vape of everything I've tried and if it didn't 'randomly' leak it would be perfect imo.
I've put about 60ml thru one white c8 without any cleanings and I've experimented with different juices, mostly thick juices, usually 50/50 or 60vg.
Filling it upside down is a no go for me, it leaks right back out the top while I'm filling. Filling right side up causes too much pressure and it leaks out the bottom. Filling it sideways is the best compromise for me but I usually say screw it and just do it right side up real fast. At the end of the fill I suck out excess air from the tank to relieve the pressure (with a syringe) and the leaking stops. Next step is crucial...
The silicone stopper / cap thingy, this has to be seated / sealed completely or the c8 will eventually dump. If you can get it to seat correctly it will seal the tank and create enough of a vacuum and surface tension of the juice so that it will not dump out the bottom, but, when you push it down, if will force out a little juice out of the bottom. Give it a light blow out, wipe up the few drops that leaked, and good to go.
Ok, so that silicone top has a little nub that fits in the fill hole, I use a flashlight to line it up then angle the top down so the nub goes in first then flatten it out to seal it, if it's lined up correctly then the top will be flat or level, if it's misaligned then the top will be crooked and the c8 will eventually leak or dump out.
After a lot of testing, whenever I have that top silicone plug on correctly, my c8 has not leaked. Whenever I don't get it on right I always get a leak.
I have 3 suggestions...
1) the price is too high for even the best product if it leaks or dies too soon.
2) come up with a top silicone cap that is easier to align and seat and does not require tiny fingers to put in place.
3) get a eGo adapter made to work with this thing, I have 3 and all three don't work without adjusting the pin.
With that said, I love the vape from this thing but it stays home for fear of leaks.
I hope this helps someone and maybe Chris can use the info to get us a revision.
First, this sucker is the best vape of everything I've tried and if it didn't 'randomly' leak it would be perfect imo.
I've put about 60ml thru one white c8 without any cleanings and I've experimented with different juices, mostly thick juices, usually 50/50 or 60vg.
Filling it upside down is a no go for me, it leaks right back out the top while I'm filling. Filling right side up causes too much pressure and it leaks out the bottom. Filling it sideways is the best compromise for me but I usually say screw it and just do it right side up real fast. At the end of the fill I suck out excess air from the tank to relieve the pressure (with a syringe) and the leaking stops. Next step is crucial...
The silicone stopper / cap thingy, this has to be seated / sealed completely or the c8 will eventually dump. If you can get it to seat correctly it will seal the tank and create enough of a vacuum and surface tension of the juice so that it will not dump out the bottom, but, when you push it down, if will force out a little juice out of the bottom. Give it a light blow out, wipe up the few drops that leaked, and good to go.
Ok, so that silicone top has a little nub that fits in the fill hole, I use a flashlight to line it up then angle the top down so the nub goes in first then flatten it out to seal it, if it's lined up correctly then the top will be flat or level, if it's misaligned then the top will be crooked and the c8 will eventually leak or dump out.
After a lot of testing, whenever I have that top silicone plug on correctly, my c8 has not leaked. Whenever I don't get it on right I always get a leak.
I have 3 suggestions...
1) the price is too high for even the best product if it leaks or dies too soon.
2) come up with a top silicone cap that is easier to align and seat and does not require tiny fingers to put in place.
3) get a eGo adapter made to work with this thing, I have 3 and all three don't work without adjusting the pin.
With that said, I love the vape from this thing but it stays home for fear of leaks.
I hope this helps someone and maybe Chris can use the info to get us a revision.
Thank you karamakatie. I am really trying to help. I wish this bad boy would get fixed and I'd be a happy camper.
Virk, really good post. That is exactly how I install the top cap. I do fill it from the side with the bottle though. Its very quick and easy for me to do.
Virk, really good post. That is exactly how I install the top cap. I do fill it from the side with the bottle though. Its very quick and easy for me to do.
I kind of figure it is the price I pay to try and be on the cutting edge of vaping technology. I took a leap of faith on the stardusts and still using, cleaning, dry burning and vaping with 8 of the 10 I got for over a month. That one turned out good. I am usually hesitant to buy the first run of anything in that I anticipate hiccups and problems. There shouldn't be, I agree, but it happens. They say don't by a vehicle the first year they are out so they can work the bugs out. Sometimes I just want that car and buy it anyway knowing the potential headaches. Same thing I figure with vaping. Buying a new product is a leap, in fact a giant leap being manufactured in China, and sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. Just a price I pay to try the latest technology in vaping.
I have only been here a couple of months but have tried quite a few different products. Some worked as advertised, some didn't work out at all, and some had a few problems. I guess I could stick with dripping in my cartos but I like to venture out into the vaping frontier and try the latest and greatest most of the time. It is a risk I take knowing the potential problems from the beginning. I could blame the seller or the manufacturer or myself for buying an unproven product but I know it wasn't done intentionally. Hopefully there will be more hits than misses as I try the new innovations. It is great to have a vendor that is trying to work with the customers to identify the problem and rectify it. I hope the mystery is unraveled soon.
I have only been here a couple of months but have tried quite a few different products. Some worked as advertised, some didn't work out at all, and some had a few problems. I guess I could stick with dripping in my cartos but I like to venture out into the vaping frontier and try the latest and greatest most of the time. It is a risk I take knowing the potential problems from the beginning. I could blame the seller or the manufacturer or myself for buying an unproven product but I know it wasn't done intentionally. Hopefully there will be more hits than misses as I try the new innovations. It is great to have a vendor that is trying to work with the customers to identify the problem and rectify it. I hope the mystery is unraveled soon.
I'm also pretty certain that I've lined up the seal/nub each time just fine... I've also completelly left off the seal and mouthpiece overnight without having it leak out... Still, having said that, I feel that it has to be related to the seal somehow.
The 510 to eGo adapter that I got from GV ( with my C8 order ) has worked on all of my PV's including the eGo batteries I've got.
As mentioned, when the C8 works, it has the cleanest flavor of any type of vaporizer I've used to date ( couple of months ). Still, it is also the worst at having a dry hit issue of any I've used.
Randy
The 510 to eGo adapter that I got from GV ( with my C8 order ) has worked on all of my PV's including the eGo batteries I've got.
As mentioned, when the C8 works, it has the cleanest flavor of any type of vaporizer I've used to date ( couple of months ). Still, it is also the worst at having a dry hit issue of any I've used.
Randy
I finally feel comfortable with the one I've been using. I still have 4 unused ones out of 6. What I've been doing since last night is sucking the air out of the tank before the next fill to relieve the pressure, and if any leaks out of the top or bottom, I just suck it back into the bottle. I agree that the side fill with bottle works as I don't have my syringes yet, so that's what I've been doing. I just use the same bottle to suck the air out, then side fill. If you don't suck the air out of the tube it will come back out of the smaller hole on the top. Even if that happens you can just suck the juice back into the bottle. I've been having less and less problems and am starting to feel more comfortable with the thing. I haven't had any random leak outs in days.
As far as the dry hit issue, the last tank I had a dry hit issue at the start of the tank, but i kept doing primer puffs without firing the atomizer, and I eventually got through it. The dry hit problem, I think, has to do with the tank not having the right pressure. This tank I am not having the dry hit thing after I sucked the air out before fill. I will update if I get another dry hit issue.
These really have the best taste of anything I've tried. Don't want to see them given up on. I hope the factory can make them more consistent.
As far as the dry hit issue, the last tank I had a dry hit issue at the start of the tank, but i kept doing primer puffs without firing the atomizer, and I eventually got through it. The dry hit problem, I think, has to do with the tank not having the right pressure. This tank I am not having the dry hit thing after I sucked the air out before fill. I will update if I get another dry hit issue.
These really have the best taste of anything I've tried. Don't want to see them given up on. I hope the factory can make them more consistent.
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heres a review for the c8 form someone else for someone else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcW4K_pO1gw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcW4K_pO1gw
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Starting to get some dry hits again. Maybe I filled it too much. I wish we could figure it out.
Going to try Davon's idea of trimming down the wicks.
Going to try Davon's idea of trimming down the wicks.
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I watched this review and followed the link for that supplier....
How can this be the same C8 at only $2.99 with the cap included?? I paid almost $14 a piece for 1 with the cap?!?! So are they the same C8??
The difference with this scenario and the one we've had is the fact that the manufacturer of your new vehicle will stand behind the product and work to improve it AT NO COST TO YOU, save for your time. Well, I have been spending my time on this thread trying to contribute, so the time point is moot to me. The difference is if your $35K car decides to fail in short order (3 year, 36K mile), they will fix it for you. Not in this case.
do you really think its 2.99, they are out of stock, usually the system just revert to numbers form the system, they cost alot more then that wholesale
back up and check the main carto page for actual price
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Karmakatie, the caps are optional and not included at $2.99 by what I see. That is a crazy low price though. Out of stock. I wouldn't be surprised if that was a mistake on the price.
Anywho, still waiting for the Phoenix.
Anywho, still waiting for the Phoenix.
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