French e-cig opponent urges govt to ban use in public

[Bill Godshall]

French Researchers Recommend Stopping E-Cigarette Use in Public - Businessweek

This so-called researcher cites a junk science article to justify his call for an e-cig use ban, and the French goverment paid him for this garbage.

Would be helpful if some comments were posted.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

Left a comment re Jon obviously an ANTZ

 

[Alexander Mundy]

"Jon" commented:

"E-cigarettes release toxic chemicals indoors. A recent study finds they put into the air acetic acid, acetone, isoprene, formaldehyde and acetaldehyde, averaging about 20% of what a cigarette does.

Secondhand smoke kills. 20% of it is not safe. There is no reason anyone should be forced to breathe in toxic chemicals.

Reference:

Wiley Online Library... "

My comment re "Jon"

Jon,

Have you dug into the report you reference and done any research of the levels found in the report?

Folks, always read and research. Dig deep and don't let comments from
Jon, researchers, myself, or anyone else make your mind up on anything
until you do.

OSHA 8 HR per day or 40 HR per week permissible exposure levels
compared to worst e-cig levels in report referenced by Jon:

Acetaldehyde 360mg/m3 / 3ug/m3 (120,000 times less)

Formaldehyde 1.383mg/m3 / 16ug/m3 (86 times less)

(The researcher noted that the level of Formaldehyde was due to natural exhalation anyway, not e-cig usage)

Isoprene 1.107mg/m3 / 10ug/m3 (110 times less)

Acetic acid 25mg/m3 / 14ug/m3 (1785 times less)

Acetone 2400mg/m3 / 25ug/m3 (96000 times less

I realize that many Anti smoking zealots automatically dislike e-cigarettes just because they look like smoking. Nothing anyone can say will change that.

Big Pharma is looking to loose big bucks from sales of patches, gum, drugs with horrible side effects, etc that have dismal success rates and is pouring big bucks into anti e-cig lobbying.

Big tobacco is loosing big money but seem to have now decided to corner the e-cig market by regulation and supply chain by pouring big bucks into lobbying.

I hope that a good thing won't be beat to death just because it looks like smoking and established big business is loosing money.

 

[Bill Godshall]

So the French Health Minister hires an e-cig prohibitionist to write a report and urge the French government to ban e-cigarette use in public places, and two days later the French Health Minister announces an e-cig ban in public places repeating the same old false and misleading fear mongering claims about e-cigarettes.

France to ban electronic cigarettes in public | Reuters

 

[Alexander Mundy]

So the French Health Minister hires an e-cig prohibitionist to write a report and urge the French government to ban e-cigarette use in public places, and two days later the French Health Minister announces an e-cig ban in public places repeating the same old false and misleading fear mongering claims about e-cigarettes.

France to ban electronic cigarettes in public | Reuters

Holy cow, citing the possibility of taking up smoking:
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"This is no ordinary product because it encourages mimicking and could promote taking up smoking," said Touraine, who announced her plans at a news conference.
Unquote

Apparently no one read the UK study where zero youth non smokers used e-cigarettes. (A few kids tried them but didn't take them up after trying them. Go figure, kids trying something they aren't supposed to?)
http://ash.org.uk/files/documents/ASH_891.pdf

Or this survey of Adults in the US that found 6 out of 2000 non smokers that had tried e-cigarettes. (The study did not show if they were continual users or not)
Use of Emerging Tobacco Products in the United States

At least the head of the report sees them as less hazardous than smokes:
Quote
The expert in charge of the French report advised against an outright ban on e-cigarettes, however, saying they still seemed safer than tar-laden tobacco.
Unquote

Enough preaching to the choir for now.

 

[Elnroth]

Holy cow, citing the possibility of taking up smoking:
Quote
"This is no ordinary product because it encourages mimicking and could promote taking up smoking," said Touraine, who announced her plans at a news conference.
Unquote

Apparently no one read the UK study where zero youth non smokers used e-cigarettes. (A few kids tried them but didn't take them up after trying them. Go figure, kids trying something they aren't supposed to?)
http://ash.org.uk/files/documents/ASH_891.pdf


Enough preaching to the choir for now.

You've never seen this political strategy? Of something comes up that proves you wrong, pretend it never happened.

 

[Bill Godshall]

A new article with criticism (of France's ban on e-cigarette use in public places) by Etter and Molimard.

Is France trying to 'kill off' the e-cigarette
Is France trying to

Could use some more comments.

 

[AgentAnia]

Excellent article. Tried to post a comment; had to create a France24 account, and it wouldn't accept my Captcha code. Very frustrating. Will try again later.