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Friend wants to Vape

Discussion in 'General Vaping Discussion' started by ricks, Jan 22, 2018.

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  1. lil_buddy

    lil_buddy Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 9, 2017
    Maybe the Zenith tank with the Evic primo or Sinuous? The nice thing about the Nautilus is those coils seem to be available at most vape stores so you don't have to worry about online orders and being all proactive which ime was the hardest part about transitioning to vaping.
    The Kabuki clones are cheap on FT and they might be easier to deal with than the top filling N2 tanks - also they have 2x the capacity
     
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  2. Letitia

    Letitia Nano Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    Nauti 2 reviews and comments are too varied for me to recommend for newbs anymore.
     
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  3. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member

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    May 30, 2017
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    The zenith is larger diameter, so if he goes with a box mod, that would be a better fit. It is certainly true that the nautilus coils are easy to get and inexpensive, and kind of "tried and true."

    I think if going with the nautilus coil, it will be an overall nicer experience than the N2 for capacity, quality of the vape, etc. I would suggest NOT getting the one with the P3 adaptor, it's not a P3 in any case and just adds bulk/another piece of the tank to malfunction.

    I thought the clones were decent for the price, they don't compare to the originals but they're better for flavor than the N2, and that (really double when you measure to the N2 fill line almost) extra capacity is nice on the go. Filling AT work might be awkward as sometimes things lock up and you really need the allen key to go with it. That and the time it would take to acquire it would be the two major downsides, I would think.

    Anna
     
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  4. ricks

    ricks Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 11, 2011
    Moscow PA
    I think I'm going to push the Zenith Tank on him. I saw that tank not too long ago and I myself was interested in it to try. Now I have to call him...
     
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  5. ScottP

    ScottP Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    Houston, TX
    He is coming straight from smoking, so will probably be an MTL'er to start. He doesn't want something small, and he has seen what you use so is probably expecting something that at least looks similar.

    Might I suggest an HCigar VT75D paired with an Innokin Zenith tank. That gets him a more advance mod that he can grow into without buying new equipment, and what seems to be a good MTL tank with easily replaceable drop in coils. With that mod he can easily move into rebuildables at any time later. This will be a bit more expensive than some of these basic starter kits but IMHO should at least be considered.

    EDIT: I should have read all the posts before posting, looks like you already decided on the Zenith.
     
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  6. Opinionated

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    Aug 19, 2015
    I'm all for getting him a regular mod and sticking a Nautilus 2 on top..

    Just look for a sale
     
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  7. ricks

    ricks Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 11, 2011
    Moscow PA
    Have you seen the Zenith? The way you fill it and how it closes the liquid off? It looks like a great tank for a beginner. I'm sure he'll love it
     
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  8. Opinionated

    Opinionated Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I've not seen it yet...

    I usually recommend the Nautilus for beginners because it's a good mtl atty and the coils are inexpensive and easy to find...

    If the later two things aren't a concern for your freind then go for the zenith if you think it's a good choice!
     
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  9. ricks

    ricks Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 11, 2011
    Moscow PA
    Check out a video review. Really cool
     
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  10. Maytwin

    Maytwin Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 28, 2011
    SW France
    I'll chime in here having had my Zenith now for a couple of weeks - I really like it. For me, it's so much easier, cleaner and quicker to refill and I've had no problems with leaking, gurgling etc. I've not tried the 0.8 coil yet but the 1.6 is a nice MTL vape and overall I prefer it to the Nauti 2. I'd definitely recommend it, particularly for a beginner.
     
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  11. Opinionated

    Opinionated Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Aug 19, 2015
    I'll do that thanks!
     
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  12. sgobots

    sgobots Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2014
    Berlin, Maryland
    That was my first setup! Good call.
     
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  13. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member

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    As I think I said, I don't have a lot of downsides for the zenith so far, I think it's a good choice although an N2 would probably work as well. Glad you are feeling decided however.

    Anna
     
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  14. tym64

    tym64 Full Member

    Jul 30, 2017
    Just a couple of things. Everyone assumes that all smokers go mouth to lung. Not so much, there are some that go strait to lung, my gf, and buddy of mine both smoke that way. Me it was always mouth to lung. Seems like the strait to lung go with 6mg and do fine. The mouth to lung, I found 18mg was the best for me, and a friend of mine went the same route.

    Going from smoking cigs, to vaping, can be a bit of a challenge. Its just a different process, was for me anyway. Slowing down the process, holding it in the lungs just a bit, blowing most the smoke through your nose, was what FINALLY seemed to do the trick.

    I bought the Smok Alien with the baby beast, Single battery, simple to use, and my goal is to quit it all together, Have NO desire to be vaping years on down the road, and I am NOT using vaping to replace smoking, I am using vaping to break the nic habbit and stop all together.
     
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  15. Letitia

    Letitia Nano Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    Believe ricks mentioned his friend wanted mtl to start with. I do agree that newb's should be told about dtl as well as mtl. Took dtl for me to keep vaping, if I hadn't stumbled across dtl on my own I would not be vaping and smoke free today.
     
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  16. dom qp

    dom qp Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I'm in the same exact place. MTL was good enough to get me to cut down, moreso because it let me smoke guilt free in doors. DTL satisfied me enough to quit.
     
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  17. Letitia

    Letitia Nano Junkie ECF Veteran

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    West Frankfort, IL
    MTL frustrated me to no end and I hated it. I happened to read about the STM and thought maybe I would like it better, the rest is history.
     
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  18. ricks

    ricks Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 11, 2011
    Moscow PA
    I tried DTL and I didn't like it.
     
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  19. Letitia

    Letitia Nano Junkie ECF Veteran

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    West Frankfort, IL
    That's what is nice about the world of vape, room for everyone.:)
     
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  20. Grimwald

    Grimwald Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 12, 2012
    Lawrence KS
    Another vote for the Ego One with CLR coils. Perfect for a MTL and beginner.
     
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