From Provari to Sub-Ohm

[Thrasher]

If flavor is your thing, you need to try temp control. It is beyond amazing when it comes to flavor enhancement. As far as spending 200 bucks on a mod and wanting it to look new...There are PLENTY of new devices that out shine the Provari in every single way at that pricepoint.

I look at the Provari Illuminati as a bunch of people that have '80's Buicks in their garage that are all shiney and look new. Ya, they still function, but get with the times. I'll take my Corvette of a mod and go toe to toe in flavor, and clouds to any Provari and walk it.

Why the attack for no reason?

I don't use a provari so I am just curious, did they do something to you?

 

[classwife]

The slamming and attacking of people is going to stop...Got it ??

 

[lozzaine]

A year or so ago, I had an ego and a nautilus aspire. Thought it was great. But I eventually went back to smoking. Almost a month ago, I decided man it's time to put these things down and I jumped in head first with a istick 30w and a melo tank. I purchased the melo because it was designed for the istick 30. My boyfriend, who has been vaping for over two years just shook his head and was all do you even know what you bought. You're going to hate that tank. As it turns out, I'm in love with it. It's like I was doing it wrong before. I tried using my old nautilus with the istick and felt like I was trying to suck a golfball through a waterhose. It's been retired for good now. The only downside is it burns through juice really fast but oh well. At least I'm not smoking anymore.

 

[stevegmu]

ProVari aren't for everyone. As one who vapes as a smoking cessation tool, who enjoys throat hit and high quality e-liquid, a 2.5 and even PV-1 with a properly set up IBTanked hits the spot...

 

[spacetime]

Not sure it was mentioned but...

The new firmware version 38 for P3's can fire .5 ohm coils. Perfect compliment to the Subtank mini w/ .5 coils. It's only 20watts but is still plenty for clouds.

 

[coolerat]

Been happily chugging along with my Provari + Peakomizer/Davide with Liqua liquid for more than year until....I was introduced to sub-ohm setups!

OMG. Sigelei 30W, Eleaf 50W + Subtank Mini with premium juices (read more expensive than Liqua). Can't go back to the Vari now. Why bother? Two mods + tanks + juices cost less than my Provari.

2 weeks into this malarkey, and I stuff the Subtank with a 1.2ohm coil into the Vari, topped out at 14.7W and even that was a huge improvement over the what I was vaping before.

I guess I got too comfortable with the Vari as a cessation device and never bothered to venture into other setups. It works, everytime, all the time but it's just not good enough anymore. It's been fun, but goodbye Provari, until they come out with something better than 20W........

I'm actually going through this with my wife as of last night.

I was a low watt Nautilus guy myself but I love the flavor and found its much better when the watts go up. As a side effect/benefit the clouds also go up. My wife stayed with her Nautilus and like 9w and thought I was crazy cause all she saw was "cloudz bro".

Last night she decided for what ever reason to try my Orchid at 30w. The flavor blew her away.

She can't go back. Another Nautilus and 20w mod in the toilet. (not really I'll vape it forward)

Edit to add the 20w mod going in the drink(dog) is an iStick. I could build an Orchid to be used at 20w but they suck that low so its not worth the bother. I see this morning the VS 30 is gonna be $45 bucks so I'm thinking match made in heaven for herself.

 

[itskohler]

Why the attack for no reason?

I don't use a provari so I am just curious, did they do something to you?

I'm not slamming or attacking anyone, everyone has their preference and I stated mine.

The slamming and attacking of people is going to stop...Got it ??

Sorry, forgot these forums are hyper sensitive to criticism.

 

[r77r7r]

Not sure it was mentioned but...

The new firmware version 38 for P3's can fire .5 ohm coils. Perfect compliment to the Subtank mini w/ .5 coils. It's only 20watts but is still plenty for clouds.

I don't understand the upgrade. I thought Provape wasn't doing sub-ohm for safety? Then again, it's an upgrade by choice.

 

[dam718]

Always good to have some variety!

I have an SXmini M Class that I adore, it's great... And I thought it would take the place of my ProVari lineup, but I've found that for whatever reason my Kayfuns don't perform as well on the SXmini as they do on my Provari P3. I can't explain it... I don't understand WHY that's the case, but it just is...

As much as I love using the Subtank Mini and the Lemo 2 with temp control builds on the SXmini, there are some juices that just perform better in the Kayfun, even with being limited to a mouth to lung hit. Sometimes it's just better

So don't be too quick to toss out that Provari! You may find it sits well in your vaping lineup in the future

 

[Thrasher]

I'm not slamming or attacking anyone, everyone has their preference and I stated mine.

Sorry, forgot these forums are hyper sensitive to criticism.

Yea seeing how 10 min before your post was another one asking about the elitist attitudes around here, then you pop in and put down provari users in a pretty much elitist tone lol

Can you really blame them?

Just cause someone uses something you don't is no reason to slyly insult them.

Personally I think your all suckers buying that cheaply made Chinese crap after seeing how many are faulty.. But I keep it to myself

 

[itskohler]

I'm hardly an elitist. But since this post is about switching from dated hardware to newer, better hardware, I thought I'd throw some humor into it in the form of an anology. If that comes across as elitist, you need to spend some time on other forums.

 

[Baditude]

I'm hardly an elitist. But since this post is about switching from dated hardware to newer, better hardware, I thought I'd throw some humor into it in the form of an anology. If that comes across as elitist, you need to spend some time on other forums.

I'm no elitist, either. Like most members here, I have my favorite devices and opinions, and I openly share those for the benefit to others who may come here for unbiased information. I like humor, too; but not at the expense of others.

The Provari is hardly dated hardware, especially the P3. It has an innovative connector attachment to replace the aging 510 thread. The P3 is the only personal vaporizer in the world capable of reading the electrical impedance of virtually every connection on the P3. Called IQ (input quality), it can evaluate both the system's battery and tank or atty and determine the safety and quality of the vape it will deliver. It has the ability to fire 0.5 ohm atomizers; which is the lowest resistance that I personally consider to be safe for today's batteries and allowing for some safe headroom.

I don't go to those "other forums" specifically because of the reasons you mentioned. I like it here on ECF. I have nothing against you and I respect your opinions.

 

[petrotech]

on any given day, I'll use a mini genitank in an evod, a MicroStick with a spheroid at 1.4 ohms, a subtank mini and atlantis on Aspire Sub-Ohm bateries, a Russian 91 on Mech 1.3ish ohms, and a Doge .3 ohms on a Sigeli 150 Watt box mod, an aerotank on an istick 20, a nautilus on and MVP 20 watt, ect ect.. ...using all kinds of juice, from 20/80 pg/vg to 100% vg, unflavored.

and they all do the same thing. Keep me from smoking!!!!



glad you found something new to enjoy! God (and my wallet) know I find something "new" everyday. lol

 

[azsungal77]

If flavor is your thing, you need to try temp control. It is beyond amazing when it comes to flavor enhancement. As far as spending 200 bucks on a mod and wanting it to look new...There are PLENTY of new devices that out shine the Provari in every single way at that pricepoint.

I look at the Provari Illuminati as a bunch of people that have '80's Buicks in their garage that are all shiney and look new. Ya, they still function, but get with the times. I'll take my Corvette of a mod and go toe to toe in flavor, and clouds to any Provari and walk it.

I am new at the jargan used. When you talking of watts, like 40 W, are we referring to a type of battery? And is it the battery that has temp control? At the moment I am using a D6 battery with a Davide atomizer. I like it but I hear wonderful things on sub ohm that I am curious to try. Your help is appreciated.

 

[Baditude]

I am new at the jargon used. When you talking of watts, like 40 W, are we referring to a type of battery? And is it the battery that has temp control?

Watts or volts, is an expression of how much power is being delivered to the heating coil, or atomizer, generally speaking.

This power is being delivered to the heating coil by a battery or battery device. A mechanical or regulated mod (also called "advanced personal vaporizers") is a battery device.

A battery device can be a mechanical or regulated mod. It can use internal or external batteries. It can be tube or box shaped.

A "mechanical" mod is a bare-bones battery holder without a processor chip or any internal electronics. Because it has no internal circuitry (protection circuitry) to restrict it, it can fire a sub-ohm coil (less than 1.0 ohm) and is only limited by the amperage of the battery.

A "regulated" mod uses a processor chip to regulate the power from the battery to the coil. This also means adjustable power (variable voltage & variable wattage). Ordinary regulated mods can not generally fire a sub-ohm coil (less than 1.0 ohm). "High-wattage" regulated mods have more power and can fire a sub-ohm coil.

"Temperature control" is a new-fangled way that a processor chip regulates the power to the atomizer from the battery.

Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder

 

[Mowgli]

2008 Chevy packing 290HP/310Tq in my garage

P3/STM @ 20W works great, SX Mini/Arctic @ 50W+ is intense

I use both and love em both. I bet my P3s will still work great 5 years from now.

I also keep a Provari 2.5/Nautilus/Tatroe standing on my w*rkdesk for when I'm w*rking.



EDIT - I'd trade my Chevy for a mint Buick GSX anyday BTW

 

[Oberon75]

This thread reminds me of an Apple vs Android fanboy board.

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[WillyZee]

This thread reminds me of an Apple vs Android fanboy board.

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Who would be the Apples and who would be the Androids?


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[Oberon75]

Who would be the Apples and who would be the Androids?


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Don't know because both groups think their products are the absolute best even though they all have their pros and cons. However Apple fans do try and claim that Android devices are for poor people.

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[Ongakos]

Provari are reliable , durable , have perfect mechanical parts , are made to last for years. Voltage is perfectly regulated and they give full rich flavor when special liquids are used in high quality atomizers. I have two P3s ,one VS RDNA40 and one YIHI SX MINI M class.

Using 1 ohms resistor kanthal , I did set up all mods to same watts , all have cleaned pins,threads etc . P3 still performs better and gives better flavor than the others. I am not fanatic but I like to share my experiences with you.