Frustrated and Discouraged
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I can really relate to this. I'm an accountant and a perfectionist. I obsess with something until its perfect. Today I'm lamenting the fact I haven't found the perfect vapor setup for me. Tomorrow I'll give it another shot. Im just glad I'm not alone. Smoking was there with me and "perfect" for 20 years. So guess its okay if it takes a month our two to find my "perfect" replacement.
Yeah man, I never put it into words, but your post inspired me to do it. Your frustration really resonated in me because it was so heartfelt... I could feel your frustration.
I guess I just wanted to say it's going to be OK.
Wow, Zen! I know you and I disagree on some points, but your post was just wonderful and moving! I really thank you for sharing that because I just looked at all the stuff I have the other day and kind of felt overwhelmed. Even my fiance made a comment about how much easier it was to just smoke. I almost agreed with him, but I caught myself. I've been through (and am still going through) so many serious health issues and I know that smoking wasn't helping anything. Your post really hit me where I live, man.
It so ironic, too. Because it does get better and easier. I think I found a flavor that I really, really like the other day. Mocha Smoke from Gourmet Vapor just really did it for me. I've been vaping it for two straight days now. I haven't done that with any other flavor.
Anyway, thanks Zen. That was an awesome post!
It so ironic, too. Because it does get better and easier. I think I found a flavor that I really, really like the other day. Mocha Smoke from Gourmet Vapor just really did it for me. I've been vaping it for two straight days now. I haven't done that with any other flavor.
Anyway, thanks Zen. That was an awesome post!
What kind of PV do you have? If you are using 510 carts, you can try the cheap precut blue foam stuffing from strictlyejuice.com (I wasn't thrilled with their juices so don't go crazy there. The precut pieces are 75 cents for 10). For me it behaves better than old used white stuffing. And it holds its shape, easy to take out, put back, wash and pat dry etc.
But yeah, I can imagine that if your hardware is giving you a lot of problems it would be frustrating. Have your tried cartomizers for times when you can't screw with the cart?
But yeah, I can imagine that if your hardware is giving you a lot of problems it would be frustrating. Have your tried cartomizers for times when you can't screw with the cart?
I have been at this for about a year and a half. I was weak and went back and fourth with analogs. For me the high voltage stuff is too warm and I didn't like it. This is the whole personal preference thing here. I found the 510 with the eGo battery. This is my sweet spot for gear. I have gone crazy with different juices and just couldn't find the one. I think I am almost there with that. Making a simple nic cut with VG and adding menthol crystals. I would like to find a light flavor of tobacco just to add a little something to it. but what I am mixing now has worked great as my all day every day mix.
It is funny how many people can relate to this post. I started vaping the day before Thanksgiving and had a hard time as well. I bought just about everything I could think of to help me quit analogs. I have not saved any money yet I am sure!! I have 13 batteries, boxes of cartos and carts and liquid in every flavor created, an obnoxious variety of atomizers, pcc's, passthrough's and yes, I went to Amazon.com and got a huge tackle box to put it all in. Guess what? I have too much stuff and it does not fit!! In the end, I have quit analogs and I found my favorite vape and my favorite equipment. Your going to love this....ex-menthol smoker's daily vape is CinnaBomb. Never thought that would happen to me!! Just keep up the good work and you will make it through this!! It gets easier with every passing day.
P.S. Getting a MOD soon!! It's the only thing I haven't tried yet!!
P.S. Getting a MOD soon!! It's the only thing I haven't tried yet!!
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Grats on 3 weeks!!
I highly recommend checking out this thread in regards to hardware:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...130686-self-juicing-box-way-quit-analogs.html
In regards to juice, that for me was by far the toughest (and most expensive) part. Some people luck out and find their perfect juice(s) relatively quickly and with little expense, and then there's the majority of us who try ALOT until we find our perfect vapes.
Here I am, 4 months in and I couldn't be happier. Don't give up, you'll find the perfect setup.
I highly recommend checking out this thread in regards to hardware:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...130686-self-juicing-box-way-quit-analogs.html
In regards to juice, that for me was by far the toughest (and most expensive) part. Some people luck out and find their perfect juice(s) relatively quickly and with little expense, and then there's the majority of us who try ALOT until we find our perfect vapes.
Here I am, 4 months in and I couldn't be happier. Don't give up, you'll find the perfect setup.
get ego cartomizers they are good for the day or drip i started 2 months ago i hated vaping after a week about a month later i like it now
Welcome Mmoss
Liek Tmac above me said, try cartomizers. They are a disposable atty/cart combo that holds a ton more juice. People here say they last for a few days to a couple weeks a piece before you have to throw them out.
Lori
Liek Tmac above me said, try cartomizers. They are a disposable atty/cart combo that holds a ton more juice. People here say they last for a few days to a couple weeks a piece before you have to throw them out.
Lori
I wanted to say thanks again to everyone. I made it through the night last night (my worst so far) and felt much better today. This forum has been an important part of me getting off the cancer sticks. I sincerely appreciate your genuine help and support.
Good to see you made it through!
I smoked for a month after I started vapin. A lot of that was just a me thing but then when I had failure problems, 510 batteries that never lasted long enough, I smoked then too. I still keep a pak of cigs just in case, especially this time of year. After going through several vaping units, much like most people here, I found something called a roughstack from madvapes. This unit has replaceable batteries so if something gets fried from a faulty part(yes i had that happen-3 batteries wiped out in minutes cause I had no idea what was going on) you only need to get new batteries which is way cheaper than whole units. These batteries run about 6$ each. I went to cartomizers and that took some serious adjusting also but they last so much longer. A real plus when you drive a couple hours a day for work and fiddling with carts can be just plain dangerous. I also learned I needed many different nic strengths, 36 for mornings and heavy stress times, 24 nic for the day and evening. I am now working that down some, yeah! It all just takes time and if you have a set back and smoke an analog, realize it isn't the end of the world. I now occasionally light one up just to remember why I am vaping instead. It all gets easier!
I smoked for a month after I started vapin. A lot of that was just a me thing but then when I had failure problems, 510 batteries that never lasted long enough, I smoked then too. I still keep a pak of cigs just in case, especially this time of year. After going through several vaping units, much like most people here, I found something called a roughstack from madvapes. This unit has replaceable batteries so if something gets fried from a faulty part(yes i had that happen-3 batteries wiped out in minutes cause I had no idea what was going on) you only need to get new batteries which is way cheaper than whole units. These batteries run about 6$ each. I went to cartomizers and that took some serious adjusting also but they last so much longer. A real plus when you drive a couple hours a day for work and fiddling with carts can be just plain dangerous. I also learned I needed many different nic strengths, 36 for mornings and heavy stress times, 24 nic for the day and evening. I am now working that down some, yeah! It all just takes time and if you have a set back and smoke an analog, realize it isn't the end of the world. I now occasionally light one up just to remember why I am vaping instead. It all gets easier!
Wow, Zen that was an amazingly inspirational post. I could relate completely and am in that stage right now where it does seem to be ruling my life. I just figured out 2 days ago that I don't need to waste my entire evening mixing juices and filling carts. Making large batch mixes and filling carts throughout the day is truly better. Funny how we all come to many of the same conclusions on our own.
Someone may have already said this I didn't read through all the replys. But, when you're frustrated you will sub-consciously search for all the bad things to back up the feeling of frustration. You just need to grab a piece of paper or a keyboard and write all the positive things about vaping:
You don't smell anymore
Your house doesn't smell
You will be breathing easier soon if not already
You can really stop and SMELL the roses now, and probably a whole lot of other scents
You will soon be tasting food clearly
When you get a cold you won't have that lingering cough
You can smoke where you're comfortable
You can watch the whole movie
You can sit in a carful of non-smokers with the windows closed vaping away and they'll never smell or inhale a thing
You are SAVING your LIFE
and of course
You can now smoke while your waiting in the automatic car wash!
I apologize for all the spelling errors, I try to type as fast as I think! lol
You don't smell anymore
Your house doesn't smell
You will be breathing easier soon if not already
You can really stop and SMELL the roses now, and probably a whole lot of other scents
You will soon be tasting food clearly
When you get a cold you won't have that lingering cough
You can smoke where you're comfortable
You can watch the whole movie
You can sit in a carful of non-smokers with the windows closed vaping away and they'll never smell or inhale a thing
You are SAVING your LIFE
and of course
You can now smoke while your waiting in the automatic car wash!
I apologize for all the spelling errors, I try to type as fast as I think! lol
When I first started reading Zen"s post it scared the crap out of me. I started thinking what am I getting into. I just started doing this still on my first kit but it hasn't hit for me yet. My wife it did the miracle right a way. I am like oh no but trying to be supportive of her but It just doesn't work yet. The Forums here are great but since I am new at this, I go into informational overload. 2 weeks in and I am already trying a different company. I ordered another $100 worth of stuff today just to chase that dragon. I smoked for 30 years now 2 packs a day, and now I want to change all that but there is a lot of doubt in my mind. I really want to do this for my wife. Point is I am just scared of change and will I find that mythcal beast the perfect mix of battery, flavor and hit. Sorry about my rambling
Well, now you've all gone and made me tear up! 
I am never not amazed at how supportive you guys are.
I'm on day 15 and I still feel the same way. I know it's not helpful, but I think almost all of us will go through/are going through/ or have been through this exact same thing. I think it's just part of the process. I'm frustrated and intimidated too. Sometimes I get depressed. I often have to forcefully remind myself that it is worth it. And I also have a tackle box full of stuff I mostly don't like. (Except it's actually a gigantic makeup case and it's bright flamin' pink) I chose that big ol thing as a venting point when I was over at my Mom's the other day. She said she'd rather follow behind me pulling a wagon full of supplies than see me holding a pack of smokes again. Then I felt better.
Anyhoo, I'm rambling. I'm glad today is a little brighter for you. I don't have any advice better than any you've already gotten. Just keep in mind that you are not alone. And if you ever feel like you want to talk or vent or cry or scream, I'd be happy to listen. And if you should ever accumulate enough stuff to fill a wagon I'll come follow behind you and pull it.
Keep the faith! You're doing wonderful!!
~Wendy
I am never not amazed at how supportive you guys are.I'm on day 15 and I still feel the same way. I know it's not helpful, but I think almost all of us will go through/are going through/ or have been through this exact same thing. I think it's just part of the process. I'm frustrated and intimidated too. Sometimes I get depressed. I often have to forcefully remind myself that it is worth it. And I also have a tackle box full of stuff I mostly don't like. (Except it's actually a gigantic makeup case and it's bright flamin' pink
) I chose that big ol thing as a venting point when I was over at my Mom's the other day. She said she'd rather follow behind me pulling a wagon full of supplies than see me holding a pack of smokes again. Then I felt better.Anyhoo, I'm rambling. I'm glad today is a little brighter for you. I don't have any advice better than any you've already gotten. Just keep in mind that you are not alone. And if you ever feel like you want to talk or vent or cry or scream, I'd be happy to listen. And if you should ever accumulate enough stuff to fill a wagon I'll come follow behind you and pull it.
Keep the faith! You're doing wonderful!!
~Wendy
mmoss......congrats on the first two weeks and stickin with it for the rough night.
Great thread and soo many good posts. I remember the overwhelmed feeling myself and with all the cool stuff out there and everyone talking about this & that. I loved my initial experience and thought I wanted to try everything! What I lost sight of is that I just needed to find what worked and satisfied me and my lifestyle.
Surprisingly after carts, dripping, cartos, lr, various fillers, etc.; I have pretty much settled on dripping (cartos just for driving) even though my initial impression was "too messy and bothersome". I have now minimized the amount of equipment I need to carry for a day to less than the space taken up by a pack of smokes and a lighter.
My "daily burden":
two Egos and a 5ml bottle of my favorite juice.
one is set up with atty & a blank cart for dripping, the other with a bogue 2.0lr carto for driving or if I have an equipment failure.
Great thread and soo many good posts. I remember the overwhelmed feeling myself and with all the cool stuff out there and everyone talking about this & that. I loved my initial experience and thought I wanted to try everything! What I lost sight of is that I just needed to find what worked and satisfied me and my lifestyle.
Surprisingly after carts, dripping, cartos, lr, various fillers, etc.; I have pretty much settled on dripping (cartos just for driving) even though my initial impression was "too messy and bothersome". I have now minimized the amount of equipment I need to carry for a day to less than the space taken up by a pack of smokes and a lighter.
My "daily burden":
two Egos and a 5ml bottle of my favorite juice.
one is set up with atty & a blank cart for dripping, the other with a bogue 2.0lr carto for driving or if I have an equipment failure.
Hey mmoss,
The best of luck to you. It sounds like you may be through the worst of it, but it is just great to hear all the support for you in these trying times. I am also a nube and have gone through some trials and tribulations. I think you have already gotten a lot of great advice from prior posters. You haven't said which hardware you are using, or gone through, but I agree if you haven't tried the KR8, or a carto set-up on a 510, you may find something there that works for you.
I personally have a KR8 passthrough for driving, a KR8 passthrough on the computer and Riva's and eGO 510 for computing, or sitting around the house. A drip for watching T.V., drinking beer etc. I may also have 4 to 10 different e-liquids sitting in front of me at any time (sometimes even mixing them, mostly inadvertently), so try not to despair too much. There are many solutions to many problems.
Don't give up!
The best of luck to you. It sounds like you may be through the worst of it, but it is just great to hear all the support for you in these trying times. I am also a nube and have gone through some trials and tribulations. I think you have already gotten a lot of great advice from prior posters. You haven't said which hardware you are using, or gone through, but I agree if you haven't tried the KR8, or a carto set-up on a 510, you may find something there that works for you.
I personally have a KR8 passthrough for driving, a KR8 passthrough on the computer and Riva's and eGO 510 for computing, or sitting around the house. A drip for watching T.V., drinking beer etc. I may also have 4 to 10 different e-liquids sitting in front of me at any time (sometimes even mixing them, mostly inadvertently), so try not to despair too much. There are many solutions to many problems.
Don't give up!
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