Frustrationed and needs suggestions

[aikanae1]

I took the plunge and got a Joyetech 650 starter kit. Well, it's not working for me. The charge doesn't last a hour and I'm not crazy about the plastic tanks so I was dripping it. It also didn't produce near the vapor that the store testers had (they said their models were discontinued). I got their last starter kit. The vapor was a little more than a convience store kit I have.

I think I got bum batteries. Both batteries need to be charged at once constantly, so there's no way I could quit cigs. I was so hyped that I quit for 24 hours with nothing. Then I was told to smoke again (due to my mood I guess). I haven't picked it up since. That's $ for 3 cartons that I'm still spending (I'm near an indian res). I can't keep doing that.

I've spent days reading and I wanted to try a 1300mah black/stainless with black/grey Kanger T2 or T3. Simple? Out of stock. So now I'm looking at Spinners and Twisters with Nova's. If I find the batteries (not in purple), the store is out of tanks (or in day-glow yellow). If I find tanks, the store is out of batteries and I can't track down where I saw the other parts that another store had because this one is out of stock. I think I've visited every store online at least 3-10 times now.

Not only that but if I'm not careful, I'm going to end up spending hundreds on tons of stuff that are my fourth-ninth choices and probably won't touch again once I can get what I really wanted. I need to simplify and not buy stuff for a landfill (which is how I feel about my starter kit).

Yet the benefits of vaping are enough that I want to figure this out. There must be something that will satisfy me and my asthetics without feeling like I've taken on a new hobby (which I can NOT do right now). I've even considered Chinese drop shippers (omg). At least I wouldn't be spend much on equip that's disappointing and it may arrive before the stores online are restocked. That's my last choice.

Can anyone suggest something else? Ideas? Comments?

I'd like a battery to last most of the day (who wouldn't) and it appears I'll vape pretty heavily in the beginning (or I got bum batteries). I usually smoke <1 pack of lights/day. I got dizzy with 6mg juice so it's the vapor.

I thought about the Joye 2200mah with a seperate battery but I'm thinking too much on this. I know there were others, one particularly but I can't seem to find the store again. I need help.

Thx in advance.

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[The Ocelot]

Hi - I'm sorry to read you've had so many problems. It sounds like you definitely have some bad batteries or a bad charger.

Vapors Choice has both Joytech Twists, Vision Spinners (although not 1300), Vision Vivi Mini Novas and Kanger T3s. I've been buying a lot from them recently, because their current prices are pretty good. They also have a one-time 5% off coupon: "vf5"

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[MiamiMom63]

Check out this starter kit...http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?pag...color_plus.tpl&product_id=1600&category_id=54 it's a decent start and you can pick up some juice also. Later you might want to try some mini Vivi Novas, but you mentioned you might like purple, I think, and it looks like purple is available unless I read your post wrong.

 

[MiamiMom63]

Btw, I don't work for them but they do have decent starter kits. I've also recommended their starters to a couple others. There are cheaper starter kits elsewhere but they aren't variable voltage. If you don't need variable voltage, then I recommend the kGo starter kits at Welcome to Hoosier E-Cig - The Best E-cigs, Juices, and accesories, which are cheaper.

I came back to edit this post. There might be better deals but that's what I've come up with. Lol.

 

[The Ocelot]

Btw, I don't work for them but they do have decent starter kits. I've also recommended their starters to a couple others. There are cheaper starter kits elsewhere but they aren't variable voltage. If you don't need variable voltage, then I recommend the kGo starter kits at Welcome to Hoosier E-Cig - The Best E-cigs, Juices, and accesories, which are cheaper.

I came back to edit this post. There might be better deals but that's what I've come up with. Lol.

Sweet Vapes does have good prices on kits, they are a vendor I often send people to. The one thing I recommend to all new vapers is try get as many different types of delivery systems as you can, since each has it own pros & cons.

 

[MiamiMom63]

Yea, my neighbor got one of their kits and my boss bought one for his girlfriend for Christmas. They have decent starter kits.

 

[Caridwen]

You should get yourself an inexpensive voltmeter. Check your battery and your charger.

A 650 mah battery should last at least 6 hours with a new battery. You can purchase low resistance cartomizers if you don't care for tanks.

Whatever you purchase, make sure it has a decent warranty. A battery should be good for 250-300 charges. You're paying more in a B&M store (they have more overhead) so they should be also giving you good service. Take the battery back to the store. You should be able to get what you have working for you.

 

[aikanae1]

Thx. Now I want them all (again). I like the idea of the passthrough with the Kgo (looks like base metal silver). Hoosier also has the 1300mah in black. But Sweet Vapes has the Kangers and I was curious about how much voltage does (Spinner). And there's no point to any of this without trying more juices. What did I say about new hobbies?

I would like to have a better idea if this is something I'm going to stick with before I sink so deep financially (double the $ because I'll still be smoking too). I keep reminding myself how nice it was for that one week when everything didn't smell like an ashtray.

I forgot about adapter issues. However, the first day (after charging) neither battery lasted for a 2 hour drive. I thought I was doing something wrong. Luckily the dealer has positive reviews on the form (I have to get in there). This kit is top of the line for them -no clearomizers, tanks, etc.

That reminds me - I've been ordering juice at 50/50 vg/pg because I don't know anything. Is that a good mix to start with? I'm wondering if that may have reduced vapor production. I haven't made it to the juicey sections yet.

BTW - This forum isn't just good, it's essential. I hope you all know that.

 

[stacee jaxx]

I get frustrationated sometimes too. It's frustrationing and frustrationising and i end up frustrationised.

 

[MiamiMom63]

Some people use more PG, especially if they use tanks with cartomizers so the juice is thinner and feeds through the little hole on the carts easier. I use 100% VG in a Vivi Nova or rebuildable tank so it just depends on what you are using as far as clearo/cart and like. The more VG, the more vapor but some muted flavor. The more PG the less vapor but more flavor. Something that can cause less vapor is say having a clearo at too high of ohms and using too low a voltage on it. There are a lot of variables. I recommend 1.8 or 2 ohms if you are using a standard 3.7 v device.

 

[Rapture]

yeah dude your battery is screwed up. or your charger. go to walmart and get a cheap multimeter. 10 bucks. Vaping can sort of be a hobby sometimes. i like this new vaping hobby i have now. I started out with the ego 650 too and it lasted about a year and it quit working. I would use vivi novas on it and Kanger t2 and t3. I wasnt completely satisfied with that setup though. I then got variable voltage device and cartomizer tanks and I love vaping right now. I wish I would have done this along time ago. You can get a VAMO variable voltage and wattage device for like 50 bucks. and the batteries are chargers are pretty cheap. and if you wanna give cartomizers a try surevapes has the cheapest cartomizers along with free shipping. Just be sure to research proper filling before you use them. They are easy to fill but you have to do it right. good luck

 

[aikanae1]

I wish I would have done this along time ago.

Were you able to quit analog cigs with the ego 650 setup? Fun aside, if I can quit then anything (almost -except death for an example) would be worth it. I think that was the most disappointing part.

 

[The Ocelot]

I quit with a standard eGo 650mAh kit.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

The 650 eGo Batteries are good. It's either the batteries or the charger. I find it hard to believe that both batteries are duds so it may well be the charger. I've even had a wall adapter fail.Yes a digital multi meter is a must have..allows you to test chargers, batteries, delivery devices ( holds and vaporizes juice). The "tank" system (cartridge+ atomizer) is outdated and prone to leaks. As for the Kgo I own it and LOVE it BUT you're 650 eGo should be up to the task.
Realize when buying a battery: 100 mah= 1 hr normal vaping before recharge.
eGo Class/ Style PV- 510 threading:
JoyTech eGo fires @ 3.3 volts, SmokTech eGo fires @ 3.7 volts and the Riva/ Kgo fires @ 3.7 volts- come in 650, 900 or 1100 mah depending on the manufacturer- most popular 510 threading/ connection and are manual. I own a Kgo and I LOVE it. Have used the JoyTech eGo and prefer the Kgo because of the higher voltage.

Mini Variable Volt PV: 510 threading/ connection. Manual Batteries.
Twist comes in 650, 900 and 1000 mah. Dial very narrow/ smooth and not easy to turn. Voltage numbers very hard to read/ invisible. Button occasionally sticks.

Vision Spinner comes in 400, 650, 900, 1100 and 1300 mah. Wide knurled voltage dial easy to turn and easy to read voltage markings. 1300 mah Spinner is the same size as 1000 Twist.
Both variable voltage PVs above fire from 3.3-4.8 volts.
I owned the Twists and now use them as backups because the dial was hard to turn and I could not clearly see the voltage markings.
1300 Vision Spinner- 113mm or ~4.4 inches long; 16MM WIDE, 2MM WIDER THAN A STANDARD EGO
1100 Vision Spinner- 119mm or ~4.75 inches long
1000 Twist- Length 120mm(4.75")/Diameter 14mm

Advantage of the VV- when stressed and need a stronger hit I can easily and quickly dial up the voltage.

That reminds me - I've been ordering juice at 50/50 vg/pg because I don't know anything. Is that a good mix to start with? I'm wondering if that may have reduced vapor production. I haven't made it to the juicey sections yet

Juice Components
Flavoring usually about 15%- could be higher or lower depending on the flavor used.
PG enhances flavor, TH and lung hit- water like
VG= vapor and can mute flavor- thick
Nicotine- TH, lung hit and our need for nicotine. The MOST important ingredient in regards to TH and lung hit.
Standards in the industry are 80/ 20 or 70/ 30 PG/ VG.

 

[DaveP]

I vaped for two years on a 650mah eGo with no problems. I had to order a couple of extra batteries for security against not having a spare. Two batteries is probably cutting it close in case you forget to charge. A 650mah batt should last you 4-6 hours and should charge in an hour and a half. You have bad batteries or a weak charger. The charger should say "output 4.2v 420ma". We've heard about eGo chargers that had factory component issues resulting in very long charger times. Take it back to the vendor.

Small batteries keep you tied to a charger. There are lots of people who vape the Joye eGo Twist and it will last you most of the day between charges.

The Vamo uses 2000mah batteries that will get you through an entire day on one battery if you keep the voltage in a sensible range on a mid range resistance atomizer. You can get two twists for about $50 and use them with your current 510 atomizers or a Vamo and a couple of 18650 IMR batteries (2000mah) and a charger for $80 or so.

The IMR batteries will definitely take you from morning to night on one charge. You need at least two batts (I rotate 4) so that one can charge in 3-4 hours while you vape away on the other. Keep your eGo 650's for backup.

 

[vernhall]

Best thing is to skip the brick & mortar and go on-line... Either http://www.ecigexpress.com/ or Electronic Cigarette Supplies & Electronic Cigarette Refills for Name-Brand Electronic Cigarettes! E-Cigs from LiteCigUSA will have what you need including eGo style starter kits...

 

[Caridwen]

Were you able to quit analog cigs with the ego 650 setup? Fun aside, if I can quit then anything (almost -except death for an example) would be worth it. I think that was the most disappointing part.

I quit using a 650 mah ego type battery with LR cartomizers. I think many people did that started vaping when I did because you didn't have a huge amount of options. I used just that for over a year and I smoked many years.

You have a pv that isn't working properly. No reason to throw it in the drawer and buy a whole new kit. Get the pv that you paid for working or replaced from the person you purchased it from.

Down the road when you need a new battery pick up a spinner or twist. Although I personally don't like the novas, try one.

The first thing you should do is contact the store where you made the purchase. Get a refund or replacement if it's not working properly.

 

[aikanae1]

I intend to take it back. I expect them to figure out what's going on with it. It just wouldn't surprise me if they offered store credit which is limited for equipment (they mainly do juices). I want something new so it works NOW and to keep me interested. I expected to get some sort of delivery system with the ego's. I thought the little cartridges would be a good way to explore juice flavors - but I'm dripping for that.

The spinner is a must have, several kanger t3's and a whole lotta sampler packs of juices. I didn't expect to like flavored juice but I do, even in flavors I wouldn't normally eat. It appears that stores are getting stock now and soon I can find the mini nova to try. I think the ticket is to keep trying things until I find something that whispers to me "awww... now I'm home". That may not happen until my taste buds recover. By that time, I'll know enough that this might be a cheaper alternative to smoking, but for now this is just a healthier alternative.

I'm just really surprised with retailers. A lot of limitations are self-imposed. I discovered the mod and accessories form and OMG, it's a virtual art gallery!!! Why aren't J-Wraps everywhere? I could have a timey-whimey wrap to match my tardis iphone (kidding) but that stuff fuels the market. New Year happens every year. Stock for it. If a business is b&m juice store, why not offer equipment that holds more juice?

I've talked to several local smoke store owners about expanding into e-cigs and it's a non-starter. They can't see past cigars or head shops. Who would want to continue smoking if they can leave the bad part behind (all 4,000 chemicals) and keep the best parts of smoking? This is hope I haven't felt for a long time. I wish I knew more about retail and I'd jump ship into b&m's. I have no doubt that if I had access to trying out a variety of set-up's, I could have been upsold every time I walked in and thanked them for it. Anything that keeps me from picking up another cigarette. I even briefed my doctor about e-cigs (not sure he believed me, but oh well).

 

[wv2win]

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The Vamo uses 2000mah batteries that will get you through an entire day on one battery if you keep the voltage in a sensible range on a mid range resistance atomizer. You can get two twists for about $50 and use them with your current 510 atomizers or a Vamo and a couple of 18650 IMR batteries (2000mah) and a charger for $80 or so.

The IMR batteries will definitely take you from morning to night on one charge. You need at least two batts (I rotate 4) so that one can charge in 3-4 hours while you vape away on the other. Keep your eGo 650's for backup.

I definitely agree with the suggestion of the VAMO. I wouldn't waste money on more ego type models when you get so much more with the VAMO. It's Power Regulated (VW) and has a 5 amp switch. ego, spinners, etc can't match it from flexibility, battery life and consistency. Here is one site that sells them and a review:

VAMO Variable Volt/Watt APV V2

A PBusardo Review - The Vamo - YouTube

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I intend to take it back. I expect them to figure out what's going on with it. It just wouldn't surprise me if they offered store credit which is limited for equipment (they mainly do juices). I want something new so it works NOW and to keep me interested. I expected to get some sort of delivery system with the ego's. I thought the little cartridges would be a good way to explore juice flavors - but I'm dripping for that.

The spinner is a must have, several kanger t3's and a whole lotta sampler packs of juices. I didn't expect to like flavored juice but I do, even in flavors I wouldn't normally eat. It appears that stores are getting stock now and soon I can find the mini nova to try. I think the ticket is to keep trying things until I find something that whispers to me "awww... now I'm home". That may not happen until my taste buds recover. By that time, I'll know enough that this might be a cheaper alternative to smoking, but for now this is just a healthier alternative.

I'm just really surprised with retailers. A lot of limitations are self-imposed. I discovered the mod and accessories form and OMG, it's a virtual art gallery!!! Why aren't J-Wraps everywhere? I could have a timey-whimey wrap to match my tardis iphone (kidding) but that stuff fuels the market. New Year happens every year. Stock for it. If a business is b&m juice store, why not offer equipment that holds more juice?

I've talked to several local smoke store owners about expanding into e-cigs and it's a non-starter. They can't see past cigars or head shops. Who would want to continue smoking if they can leave the bad part behind (all 4,000 chemicals) and keep the best parts of smoking? This is hope I haven't felt for a long time. I wish I knew more about retail and I'd jump ship into b&m's. I have no doubt that if I had access to trying out a variety of set-up's, I could have been upsold every time I walked in and thanked them for it. Anything that keeps me from picking up another cigarette. I even briefed my doctor about e-cigs (not sure he believed me, but oh well).

Yeah there's a whole lot to be desired in the Vape biz. Thankfully up here we have a Vendor that listens to customer's wants and needs and acts accordingly. I asked a local tobacco store why he only sold the non nic disposables. Said he onced had them in stock but was told his license would be pulled if he continued. False threat??? IDK but it was enuff for him to drop PVs that had nicotine.