Full Disclosure - I cheated

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Bogey

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Well, I was bad today. Bad bad bad.
I was at the mall today and passed a kiosk. They were selling KR808's so I peeked. I got the same old rigamaroll you read about around here, but this time I had ECF in my back pocket and VFL experience. He asked If I had ever seen an e-cig. I said yeah. I asked if the model was an 808, he wasn't sure. He talked about 1 cart being one pack, the regular battery lasting half a day, etc, etc. I kept correcting him on almost everythning he said. He said you can "smoke anywhere" like right here in the mall. So I said cool and whipped out my gunmetal and started vaping. I know... i was being bad. He then had two of the others come over and they checked out my gear. The two sales people were freaked out by the vapor production! The two of them seemed pretty clueless, and hadn't even heard of ECF. The other though I think was one of thier distrubtors maybe... he was pretty ok actually, and seemed much more knowledgable. We chatted off to the side and he began raving about how much he likes smilin menthol :lol:!

Here is where it gets bad. I really thought my V4Lorder wasn't going to come in until monday or tuesday, so I looked over thier carts. I had been been thinking for a few days now that I might need to up my nicotine level, so... I purchased two of thier cartos, one 16 and one 24. They cost almost as much as a BOX of V4L blanks. But I thought, oh well its just an experiement, and if I ever have a REAL emergency I will know they will work in a pinch until I can get an order in. When I got home I realized they were even hard caps, and glued even! So even more of a reason to come back for those awesome carto prices I guess. Sheesh if people only knew.

Well V4L is evidently like Santa Clause and knows when you have been naughty, because my order came 1 hour after getting home. So newbie lessons learned week 2:

V4L is scary efficent, and probably phychic (yes psychic, not psychotic!)

24mg stuff will knock this boy on his ....! Not fun or pleasurable, but 18 might work.

Mall guys like V4L!

What I still am not sure of, for me of course, is whether bumping up will actually slow down my vaping. I am afraid that I will just make myself sick, as I am learning I think my problem is the "process"(?)/oral fixation habit, more than lots of nicotine... maybe. Sigh.
 

Lisa66

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Bogey, I know what you mean about the nicotine amount. I don't know about making yourself sick, but I realized I needed to back off because I was getting headaches at 18mg (I was a Marlboro Lights smoker) and went down to 12 mg. I found myself vaping more than I smoked, partly because i hadn't found the right juice with the right sort of throat hit. Your body will tell you one way or another. Sometimes when I chain vape I feel like I need to get some even lower level juice or 0mg to avoid overdoing it and getting headaches. I also believe that in my case, the act of smoking was every bit as addictive as the nicotine.
 

RiaCricket

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Bad, Bogey, bad! LOL I messed with the mall guys once but they weren't cool at all. They told me their stuff was way better than that "internet crap". They weren't pleased at all when I told them I got my juice for a lot less. As far as strength goes, my problem is hand-to-mouth and 8mg is working just fine for me. I'm just a bit below chain-vaping status and I used to be a 1 1/2 pack a day 30-year smoker.
 

Kanza

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I vape different levels of nicotine at different times of the day...higher in the morning :) I haven't really found a nicotine "home" that keeps me totally satisfied and knocks out all the cravings but I know I will find it and will find it from V4L :) I mix the same flavor in different nicotine levels to make an "between" vape that's closer to what keeps me happy :) But, who can challenge their incredible assortment of flavors? Sorry to hear about the "plastic" cart...but always nice to know we all made the right choice with V4L :)
 

Glam

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Same with me--low nic levels since I am a "hand to mouth" addict. And at times I do chain vape cause it tastes good--how long would we have smoked a tobacco cigarette if it didn't become harsher and nastier the longer we smoked it? That doesn't happen with vaping----you can just vape on and on and on and on and on and on (at least until your battery dies or your carto runs out of juice). I think chain vaping is common cause is does not become nasty tasting after a few draws like smoking a tobacco cig did.
 

Mary Kay

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V4L swiched from hard caps to the rubber last year. I have a ton of hard caps! But they work just fine for condom cap refilling. Save the rubber ends from your cartos to replace the hard caps.
When I checked out the mall guys..they were so rude! I only asked if they sold juice. They yelled that NO! Juice is crap (I wondered what he thought was in his cartos? Rose water?) So as soon as he turned his back I slipped ECF cards (made on my computer) and ECF cards in the boxes. My poor hubby started dragging me away.
 

jeffree

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Lisa's right when she mentions 'finding the right juice' when cutting nic levels. I dropped from 18 down to 4 during the past few months--made possible by choosing juices with heavier vapor and enough TH to satisfy. Finding which juices might make for a good thread here actually. Either way, I feel even better physically since the drop... although not enough to sing from the rooftops. :2cool:
 

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:blush: Oh Bogey......:facepalm: when I read that title I thought you were going to say you smoked a pack of them other things ! :laugh: You didn't 'really cheat', after all it was vaping that ya did anyways. :blush: I loved the story though !! There's posta be a mall guy near me, I haven't gone there in a long time. Now ya wanna make me wanna go there just to have fun like you did and vape in front of them ! :laugh::laugh:
 

sqirl1

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I've got the GreenNicotine douche bags here in the STL malls. one of these days I'm going to do something to troll them. Green Nicotine is especially dangerous because they act like they're the real deal and they make up lies about other E-cigs, such as atomizers getting metal particles in their vapor, and that their ecig uses "inorganic fibers to create friction" to heat the juice inside them, which is BS, as what it really is is just hair looking stuff wrapped in a coil. (they're GreenCig repackaged). they also harm the industry because they only have 2 tobacco flavors and one menthol saying on their site that "fruit flavors are put there by our competitors to attract children and nonsmokers and our product was designed with serious smokers in mind". and if you say any unfavorable comments on their youtube videos they delete them and block you. go figure.
 

Bogey

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:blush: Oh Bogey......:facepalm: when I read that title I thought you were going to say you smoked a pack of them other things ! :laugh: You didn't 'really cheat', after all it was vaping that ya did anyways. :blush: I loved the story though !! There's posta be a mall guy near me, I haven't gone there in a long time. Now ya wanna make me wanna go there just to have fun like you did and vape in front of them ! :laugh::laugh:

Oh no! I certainly didn't intend the title to come off like that! Oops! :oops:
 

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:blush: Oh Bogey......:facepalm: when I read that title I thought you were going to say you smoked a pack of them other things ! :laugh: You didn't 'really cheat', after all it was vaping that ya did anyways.

I was thinking the same thing! Bogey...glad you didn't really cheat! You just did a little comparison shopping.
 
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