wow! I'd expect ecigs to keep picking up faster and faster, .. unless improvements stop.
Once people have a better alternative to cigs they will go for it; all the ecig has to do present a comparable alternative with some pluses.
Future of E-Cig, anyone?
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wow! I'd expect ecigs to keep picking up faster and faster, .. unless improvements stop.
Once people have a better alternative to cigs they will go for it; all the ecig has to do present a comparable alternative with some pluses.
So what you gonna tax, nicotine? If you're going to tax the nicotine, shouldnt that be taxed as the original nicotine? The tax doesn't have to present itself at the retail end.
If the evil taxman taxed retail eliquids, people would just have more incentive to mix their own . And if you only taxed the cartos, then their go the cartos! Might as well use clearos instead.
future of eCigs?
I totally believe every smoker in the world will convert or quit within 10-20 years ... however, eCigs will be regulated and very expensive.
Companies like Blu and BT who own them will never reduce the prices on tobacco or eCigs.
The writing is already on the wall.
I totally believe every smoker in the world will convert or quit within 10-20 years ... however, eCigs will be regulated and very expensive.
Companies like Blu and BT who own them will never reduce the prices on tobacco or eCigs.
The writing is already on the wall.
I can run my ecig off a 12V battery right now if I wanted to. With only about 2 amps with my current setup. Using my bypass, and the 12v adapter for cars, and a small 4" size 12v battery like the one in my triplite ups; it could fit in like a fanny pack, or hip holdster.
Regulation is not just possible its something people should think ahead for; would want non vapers overreacting with discordant overregulation. Right now, regulation is needed to get ecig systems quality control via pharmaceutical standards.
But Taxes- thats a different, and evil thing.
How exactly would one define an ecig?
For example how would you distinguish an ecig from an asthma inhaler?
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this won't become main stream until someone figures out a DIY
Quality control is done via the marketplace.
Pharmecitical standards will eliminate the individual from customizing their vape which is why it works for most people. If they standardize it (like European's regulations want to), I think vaping will fail to attract an audience with current smokers.
BT and BP want 'single use cartridges' like Vuse.
do you seriously not know the difference between an eCig vaporizer and an asthma inhaler?
He was referring to the definition in terms of how to regulate it, not his own understanding of it. They both atomize a substance so they're similar in terms of the delivery system. I think the line is going be to drawn at any atomized substance containing nicotine.
It will be more simplified, DIY will be the theme but more like legos and less like a erector set.
Liquids will unfortunatly be regulated at some point but not in the near future, the simple fact that they (FDA) cant prove long term effects is the key arguement.
I mean we are talking about the people that have pot as a schedule 1 drug but ...... is a schedule 2 hmmmmmm.
Liquids will unfortunatly be regulated at some point but not in the near future, the simple fact that they (FDA) cant prove long term effects is the key arguement.
I mean we are talking about the people that have pot as a schedule 1 drug but ...... is a schedule 2 hmmmmmm.
It will have to be more idiot friendly if its seriously going to catch on with the masses. I didn't really want a new full time hobby, just a way to kick a dangerous habit, but now I have a specialised tool kit and a ton of spare parts, batteries and chargers that I daren't leave home without. It's not how it should be, it has a long way to go.
In my opinion the future will be completely wick- and coil-less.
The next generation will use miniature piezo-ultrasonic-atomizers
Possible Pro-Arguments:
- far more durable
- no burning taste
- 100% maintenance free, thus ideal for beginners
- and most important: they are also able to atomize water-based solutions, therefore no VG/PG-based e-juice is necessary
Here is an example:
CTP DUMAG: Ultrasonic Atomization
The next generation will use miniature piezo-ultrasonic-atomizers
Possible Pro-Arguments:
- far more durable
- no burning taste
- 100% maintenance free, thus ideal for beginners
- and most important: they are also able to atomize water-based solutions, therefore no VG/PG-based e-juice is necessary
Here is an example:
CTP DUMAG: Ultrasonic Atomization
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As a noob I can definitely relate to this. The barrier to entry seemed very high the first few weeks. Now I'm more settled in, but it's taken a good amount of time and effort to get here. Not everyone has that time and effort to dedicate, and many probably just don't want to. The kit that gets carried around can be pretty inconvenient at times for sure.
If we're speaking about what I would want to see...
- replaceable 510/ eGo connectors, PCB, button, etc
- smaller batts
- better liquid delivery system without the use of wicks or filler/ stuffing
- more power efficient and smaller nano technology PCB
- better materials/ metals used
- more efficient way of completing the circuit within an APV
As to what I see happening as witnessed by recent proposals...
- 50- 80% tax
- sealed cartridges with a set Nic dose
- no APVs
- no DIY
- almost no flavors
- govt approval of anything Ecig related that enters the respective countries
- replaceable 510/ eGo connectors, PCB, button, etc
- smaller batts
- better liquid delivery system without the use of wicks or filler/ stuffing
- more power efficient and smaller nano technology PCB
- better materials/ metals used
- more efficient way of completing the circuit within an APV
As to what I see happening as witnessed by recent proposals...
- 50- 80% tax
- sealed cartridges with a set Nic dose
- no APVs
- no DIY
- almost no flavors
- govt approval of anything Ecig related that enters the respective countries
Sorry, couldn't read that in there.
I believe the difference is pretty simple ... an inhaler is something prescribed by BP .... the eCig will be sold by BT.
The only thing similar ... is the same as what is similar in the gum and the patch ... all 4 items deliver nicotine, however they are all different and each will have their own regulations.
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Vapers discover by sealing used spent radioactive waste from the Nuclear power, in Titanium, converts the 1/2 life into a safe battery that lasts 10-20years, converting it into a totally inert state. When recycled back into the earth, promotes rejuvenation of previously unfertile soils. Making nuclear reactors totally safe. Power is now free. Humanity was restored by the Power of the Vape.
Also a vaper thought, hmm, hmm, what would happen if I took this inert material and turned it into wire. Finally a glass like coil filament that would hold ohms set, would last till you got bored. Impervious to resistance change. Subatomic-Vaping became the latest got to have mods.
Plumes of vape was discovered actually promoted the re-ionization of the atmosphere. Previously tagged "Cloud Chasers" of vaping, are now revered as Saviors of man kind. Once the tax break Vaper incentive was initiated, Cost of vaping gear became deductible, and were given the Vape Break credit too. The atmosphere finally is restored to Eden like properties. The Vaoe Age had begun. Wars ceased and the fight on crime was won.
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TL/DR: R&D $ = crazy new tech. I am a happy non-smoker. Legislation coming, be proactive and make the narrative about vaping positive.
It is amazing to me that electronic cigs and/or nicotine delivery systems have come so far without regulation or oversight from at the state or federal level. I am not saying I want it to happen, I am just surprised the government has not jumped on it as a possible revenue stream with how quickly the market has expanded.
As for the future of vaping, I see larger companies becoming involved as they realize the market holds an amazing amount of money. The upside is innovation through research and design, the downside is more regulation through the courts (patents etc.) and legislation. I think the batteries and tech we use today will seem like dinosaurs in less than 5 years. I look back to my old batteries from my Mikita 9.6v drill and cringe at the thought of carrying around something so heavy and awkward that held a charge for such a short time. Flavors and nicotine delivery is an area I cannot imagine. Piezo ultrasound was mentioned above and would be great. The essence of what we use now is a heater coil that fires quickly and vaporizes a small amount of liquid. It is really simple and imagine if a company like Pfizer tossed 1% of it's research money at finding something that could bring them into the market. In 2010 they spent close to $10,000,000,000 in R&D. Pfizer is a giant and may not have any aspirations to be a leader in eCig tech, but there are many other companies that may want to capitalize on a market that has seen 4 digit growth each year for the last 5 years(+/-).
I am just a noob who is grateful for the 19 days away from smoking analogs. I tried for 20 years to kick the habit. Patches, gum, chewing cigars, and was about to give in and go the Chantix route. I knew the risks and watched a friend become a very different person after using it. I have a hard time believing it is still on the market, but I was close to giving it a go to end my reliance on the smokes. I tried the eGo and mini Protank route, and while it helped curb my nic cravings I could not quit the smokes. I read and talked to many former smokers in the B&M shops as to how they changed and Mod + Dripper kept coming up. I finally had enough on one Sunday after trotting up some stairs and being winded. I bought a K101 and Octopus. My first (shop made) coil only lasted 45 minutes before I decided it was crap and reworked another to get me what I wanted. That was day one. The intervening days have brought a Chi and IGO-W, Sony batteries, 200' of A1, switch to OG cotton, waiting on a KFL+, and ordering a genesis style beginners atty today. Like I said, there's money in this business.
I am a firm believer of eCigs ability to help move people away from analogs. I think all of the stakeholders involved in vaping need to be proactive about legislation and push for what they want. It is going to happen so we need to move it forward with a specific context. It really doesn't matter what party you align yourself with to see how inept our lawmakers are in DC. If we allow them to move forward at will we risk a great deal. Sorry about the rant.
It is amazing to me that electronic cigs and/or nicotine delivery systems have come so far without regulation or oversight from at the state or federal level. I am not saying I want it to happen, I am just surprised the government has not jumped on it as a possible revenue stream with how quickly the market has expanded.
As for the future of vaping, I see larger companies becoming involved as they realize the market holds an amazing amount of money. The upside is innovation through research and design, the downside is more regulation through the courts (patents etc.) and legislation. I think the batteries and tech we use today will seem like dinosaurs in less than 5 years. I look back to my old batteries from my Mikita 9.6v drill and cringe at the thought of carrying around something so heavy and awkward that held a charge for such a short time. Flavors and nicotine delivery is an area I cannot imagine. Piezo ultrasound was mentioned above and would be great. The essence of what we use now is a heater coil that fires quickly and vaporizes a small amount of liquid. It is really simple and imagine if a company like Pfizer tossed 1% of it's research money at finding something that could bring them into the market. In 2010 they spent close to $10,000,000,000 in R&D. Pfizer is a giant and may not have any aspirations to be a leader in eCig tech, but there are many other companies that may want to capitalize on a market that has seen 4 digit growth each year for the last 5 years(+/-).
I am just a noob who is grateful for the 19 days away from smoking analogs. I tried for 20 years to kick the habit. Patches, gum, chewing cigars, and was about to give in and go the Chantix route. I knew the risks and watched a friend become a very different person after using it. I have a hard time believing it is still on the market, but I was close to giving it a go to end my reliance on the smokes. I tried the eGo and mini Protank route, and while it helped curb my nic cravings I could not quit the smokes. I read and talked to many former smokers in the B&M shops as to how they changed and Mod + Dripper kept coming up. I finally had enough on one Sunday after trotting up some stairs and being winded. I bought a K101 and Octopus. My first (shop made) coil only lasted 45 minutes before I decided it was crap and reworked another to get me what I wanted. That was day one. The intervening days have brought a Chi and IGO-W, Sony batteries, 200' of A1, switch to OG cotton, waiting on a KFL+, and ordering a genesis style beginners atty today. Like I said, there's money in this business.
I am a firm believer of eCigs ability to help move people away from analogs. I think all of the stakeholders involved in vaping need to be proactive about legislation and push for what they want. It is going to happen so we need to move it forward with a specific context. It really doesn't matter what party you align yourself with to see how inept our lawmakers are in DC. If we allow them to move forward at will we risk a great deal. Sorry about the rant.
China's manufacturing quality control will keep nylon out of atomiser wicks ?
Like it kept lead paint out of baby's toys?
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