G-Tank-US-CO-OP Support Thread

[lorderos33]

Yes, I am speaking from experience . I do not own a US G-tank yet, but I have a number of genisis mods. I own a G-tank, a Hybrid Mini (moderately modded to suit my tastes), an iAtty that I converted to Genisis and a handful of home-made genisis experiment atties. There is simply no such thing as mass produces atty that beats genisis for flavor, TH or vapor.

This is simply because you are in control with anything Genisis. You set the amount of juice by how you roll the wick, you set the resistance and the temperature of your vapor by how long you make the kanthal and you set the draw (if you are brave enough to take tools to your toys ) and you control the TH by what mesh screen you decide to use over and above the ratio of PG/VG you vape and how much nic you add.

I can get as much or more vapor and heat from a genisis atty at 3.7v that standard mods need 6v and HR atomizers
to achieve and above all that you get the cleanest, best tasting vape possible from a genisis mod.

Now that all the positive points are there, there is one thing to keep in mind. You are not likely to get it just right the first time you pot a wick and coil together. This comes with time and can be a little frustrating but if you have patience and take the time to master the skills needed to consistently get a good result you will not be disappointed.

I have never had a friend or ecf member that took this advice tell me that they were anything but amazed by what they were missing before going to a genisis.

Hi Lorderos,

Referencing your statement above, highlighted in bold, are you speaking from experience?

Do you already own one of these atomizers?

Did you buy it or did you build it?

 

[MikeE3]

I found the co-op thread last night for this wonderful offer, decided to sleep on it before committing the monies, woke up this morning and was ready to add my order ... and then saw the post about pre-assembly not being offered. Aaarrgghhh! I would have been fine at twice the $10 assembly fee as I'm nervous about putting one together myself. I've never done anything like this before. I'm not a klutz but get anxious about doing it right when I read that one of the screws needs to be cut at 1/32nd inch. I need a magnifying glass to see the divisions on a millimeter ruler.

(... yea, I read that an instructional video will be coming but I'm still feeling shaky about putting one together myself ...)

Can a novice assemble one of these tanks and have it perform properly?

 

[bp400]

So even an assembled g.tank we will need to build, oxidize, and install the wick? Or these instructions are for replacing?

 

[Turbo]

So even an assembled g.tank we will need to build, oxidize, and install the wick? Or these instructions are for replacing?

Yes, that's the idea behind any Genisis atty. He'll have details in his tutorial.

 

[urquidezj]

I know you were asking of Loreros, but I will answer from my experiance. I have both bought and built genisis attys and I can tell you the flavor is night and day. The SS wick is the cleanest flavor you will get from any non genisis atty/carto. And I, like others have found that you will need to lower the nic content, for some reason it intensifys the nic effect.
Hope that helps from my experiance.
Dan

I agree with the nic comment. I am still vaping 24mg on my genny. It's pretty good vape but can be harsh at times since the nic effect is greater. On a regular atty. I could vape and vape and vape and never feel satisfied. This numbs my thoat, gives me a buzz and can put the dam thing down and go about my work day. Makes nic cravings go away. I love it. On a side note, can I effectively use ss wick as dripper only? Or would it burn the juice so fast it be ineffective?

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

Yes, I am speaking from experience . I do not own a US G-Tank yet, but I have a number of genisis mods. I own a G-Tank, a Hybrid Mini (moderately modded to suit my tastes), an iAtty that I converted to Genisis and a handful of home-made genisis experiment atties. There is simply no such thing as mass produces atty that beats genisis for flavor, TH or vapor.

This is simply because you are in control with anything Genisis. You set the amount of juice by how you roll the wick, you set the resistance and the temperature of your vapor by how long you make the kanthal and you set the draw (if you are brave enough to take tools to your toys ) and you control the TH by what mesh screen you decide to use over and above the ratio of PG/VG you vape and how much nic you add.

I can get as much or more vapor and heat from a genisis atty at 3.7v that standard mods need 6v and HR atomizers
to achieve and above all that you get the cleanest, best tasting vape possible from a genisis mod.

Now that all the positive points are there, there is one thing to keep in mind. You are not likely to get it just right the first time you pot a wick and coil together. This comes with time and can be a little frustrating but if you have patience and take the time to master the skills needed to consistently get a good result you will not be disappointed.

I have never had a friend or ecf member that took this advice tell me that they were anything but amazed by what they were missing before going to a genisis.

What is the difference between a "US G-Tank" and a "G-Tank"?

Is the Genisis model patented??

Is there a copyright on the name?

Who makes the "G-Tank"?

 

[jimbalny]

Genesis atties allegedly are patented somewhere by a guy that goes by the name raidy. It is his wish that no one profits off his idea. The g tank was designed by a guy who goes by the name sturmoo. He's no longer on this forum.

 

[eyebrook]

There is no patent on the genisis atty

 

[Scubabatdan]

Can a novice assemble one of these tanks and have it perform properly?

When I said a cut to 1/32, it is a nylon screw, so you can trim it down with an xacto knife, it just need to be higher than the bottom of the base so the SS spacer does not touch the ss base. But it is all screwed together with 0-80 screws. I would say my 12 year old could put one together with instructions.

So even an assembled g.tank we will need to build, oxidize, and install the wick? Or these instructions are for replacing?

As stated in the OP of the co-op, this does not come with SS mesh or kanthal, it will have no wick or coil in it when you get it.

What is the difference between a "US G-Tank" and a "G-Tank"?
Is the Genisis model patented??
Is there a copyright on the name?
Who makes the "G-Tank"?

The difference is between G-US and G is tha the original G was 5/8" in dia, and used a S wire to go from the screw to the center pin for power, and had one option for a tank, 1.8ml. The G-US uses a brass plunger that the pos post screws into, and it has 4 options, 3ml tank, 5ml tank, T-Tank adapter, and just added for 7.75 extra a dripper top atachment. So you vary your vaping experiance.
Dan

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

Genesis atties allegedly are patented somewhere by a guy that goes by the name raidy. It is his wish that no one profits off his idea. The g tank was designed by a guy who goes by the name sturmoo. He's no longer on this forum.

UH OH!!

Raidy is an ECF Member!!

Are you sure that he has patents on the original design?

Cuz if he does, this Co-Op is in danger of violating a copyrighted design.....

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

Genesis atties allegedly are patented somewhere by a guy that goes by the name raidy. It is his wish that no one profits off his idea. The g tank was designed by a guy who goes by the name sturmoo. He's no longer on this forum.

Whoops, posted twice.

I wonder if Sturmoo has patents as well....??

 

[Scubabatdan]

UH OH!!

Raidy is an ECF Member!!

Are you sure that he has patents on the original design?

Cuz if he does, this Co-Op is in danger of violating a copyrighted design.....

Obviously you have not talked or read much on Raidys wishes, not for profit is what he stated. Co-ops are ok, even Tai-Pan, one of raidys freinds is in the co-op. So what is the danger you speak of? If you refer to the 10.00 pre-assembly it is a mute point as I have offered refunds to those who wish it. Even the German co-op is charging for pre-assembly. I know I paid for it. BTW a design only has to change 10% to be re-patented and raidy only patent the SS wick in europe. So that patent does not apply here, but I am following his wishes.
Now any other questions?
Dan

 

[Scubabatdan]

Whoops, posted twice.

I wonder if Sturmoo has patents as well....??

Sturm, gave me permission to use his design in the US format. I was in the co-op sturm ran. He charged 90 a unit, which raidy felt was to much which cause an uproar in the comunity and sturm left the forum. The portion raidy developed and patent in the europe community was the use of the SS wick. So any design that uses it can only be not for profit as per his wishes. Which I am following, the co-op is designed so that people pay for the parts and shipping collectivly so no one person sholders the brunt of the cost, I have posted the cost beak down on the OP of the co-op and running it according to his wishes.
Dan

 

[UntamedRose]

j0ker looked it over and approved this co-op and Dan certainly seems to have a good grip on what is actually going on.

So I think it might be best if one isnt interested in actually participating in Dan's Co-op...that it's time to move along.
Plenty of other threads in ECF to comment in.

 

[AlmightyGod]

Dan is the Man!

It's always good to do some research, instead of tossing around bogus accusations.

 

[harpo]

SS Mesh is also available in the USA from McMaster-Carr.

85385T885 Corrosion-Resistant Type 304 SS Wire Cloth 400 X 400 Mesh, .001" Wire Dia, 12" X 12" Sheet 20.58 each

85385T883 Corrosion-Resistant Type 304 SS Wire Cloth 325 X 325 Mesh, .0014" Wire Dia, 12" X 12" Sheet $13.39 each

When I purchase from McMaster-Carr my items arrive the next day, as they have warehouses all over the US. The shipping is normally <$5.00 and you will have to pay local taxes with your online order if applicable.



ETA:

These sheets are larger than the A4 sheets that The Mesh Co sells. However, McMaster-Carr doesn't give you any free sheets of Superfine Mesh.

Can someone explain the difference between these two as it applies to our application.

 

[PKZap27]

Can someone explain the difference between these two as it applies to our application.

Here you go, from the man himself...

I ordered it at ebay in germany. You find in also in ebay usa: "screen stainless steel". I prefere 300-400mash.
lower mash (250-300) = stromg flash, low steam, 400mash=much steam lower flash
Kanthal is also in ebay. You need 0,16-0,2mm diameter ore about 80-100Ohm/meter.

Flash = Throat Hit
Dampf or Steam = Vapor


325 SS Mesh = Higher Throat Hit, Lower Vapor.

400 SS Mesh = Lower Throat Hit, Higher Vapor.



It has also been stated in some posts by ECF members that the lower 325 Mesh will wick better with thicker VG juice blends. However, I have not tried this to verify it.

I believe that you can get most VG blended juices to wick with the #400 SS Mesh and if you have issues with it wicking it may be due to how the wick was rolled.



You can also thin out your juice a little bit if needed, to get it to wick good with the #400 Mesh. The DIY E-Liquid sub forum on the ECF here has information on how to thin your juice.



Edit to add:

BTW, I like throat hit and get plenty of it from using the #400 SS Mesh, don't be fooled by the #400 SS Mesh being stated as lower throat hit.

 

[harpo]

Here you go, from the man himself...




Flash = Throat Hit
Dampf or Steam = Vapor
Mash = Mesh



325 SS Mesh = Higher Throat Hit, Lower Vapor.

400 SS Mesh = Lower Throat Hit, Higher Vapor.




Edit to add:

BTW, I like throat hit and get plenty of it from using the #400 SS Mesh, don't be fooled by the #400 SS Mesh being stated as lower throat hit.

Thanks I'm a throat hit person as well. From what I've been reading 400 should do the trick. I have two GLVs coming and I ordered mess with them but I guess I should order some more.

 

[ED-209]

BTW, I like throat hit and get plenty of it from using the #400 SS Mesh, don't be fooled by the #400 SS Mesh being stated as lower throat hit.

Whew, you had me worried for a bit PK, I got some 400 from McMaster and was worried when you were saying 400 = less TH as I haven't used it yet.

TH is what I HAVE to have and I currently do 24mg with regular cartos so hope the SS wicks will suffice.

 

[Scubabatdan]

Let me post again. I will not accept any new preassemblies. If you paid for a preassembly I will return your money immediatly via paypal. Please PM me. If you have not paid yet and have requested a preassembly I will complete the preassebly free you do not need to pay for it.

I hope this satifies the problems I have incurred by my ignorance. My apologies to the forum and co-op moderators for any problems I have caused.
Dan