Gear up folks. The end is near.

[leishan]

think godly.

e-cigs are a form of uncleanness

it is a fleshly lust for the nicotine

your mind makes you think your body enjoys/needs it, and that it is a good pleasure to vape your brains out.

in reality, it is of sinful lust and uncleanness. same with caffeine.

but we are all addicted to it, im just saying im going to try to quit, and we all should, not for ourselves, but for God. He loved us first, therefore we should love Him by doing His will.

and i'm sure his will isn't for us to be doing this crap.

If i consistantly vape, i get piercing pains in my lower right side, sometimes left.

piercing pains makes it scary, which makes this habit terrible and unsafe.

it is a worldly corruption, better than cigs or not, this is the first step to quitting nicotine, and everyone should ween off of e-cigs while they still can.

im going to try to, it is hard though, can anyone even quit e-cigs?!

they seem harder to quit than real cigs, because here we get probably much more doses of nicotine, which is hardcore, because then we rely on more and more. it's almost like C R A C K.

and that isn't even allowed to be said on the forum im sure.

but it is true, and i love you all and wish for everyone including myself, to resist the evil temptations of this world, that we may see that which is to come.

for this world shall pass away and a new one will be made.

so you can deny the truth and act like vaping is like skipping through a field of daisys compared to cigarettes, or you can get to reality with its seriousness of merely replacing cigs with a similar alternative which doesn't rid the problem that we had in the first place. the addiction to that which is unclean, a dependency which is not righteous.

grace and peace unto you all, from our Lord Jesus Christ.

Huh???????????????????

 

[Beer Man]

Originally Posted by quiet noobz
think godly.

e-cigs are a form of uncleanness

it is a fleshly lust for the nicotine

your mind makes you think your body enjoys/needs it, and that it is a good pleasure to vape your brains out.

in reality, it is of sinful lust and uncleanness. same with caffeine.

but we are all addicted to it, im just saying im going to try to quit, and we all should, not for ourselves, but for God. He loved us first, therefore we should love Him by doing His will.

and i'm sure his will isn't for us to be doing this crap.

If i consistantly vape, i get piercing pains in my lower right side, sometimes left.

piercing pains makes it scary, which makes this habit terrible and unsafe.

it is a worldly corruption, better than cigs or not, this is the first step to quitting nicotine, and everyone should ween off of e-cigs while they still can.

im going to try to, it is hard though, can anyone even quit e-cigs?!

they seem harder to quit than real cigs, because here we get probably much more doses of nicotine, which is hardcore, because then we rely on more and more. it's almost like C R A C K.

and that isn't even allowed to be said on the forum im sure.

but it is true, and i love you all and wish for everyone including myself, to resist the evil temptations of this world, that we may see that which is to come.

for this world shall pass away and a new one will be made.

so you can deny the truth and act like vaping is like skipping through a field of daisys compared to cigarettes, or you can get to reality with its seriousness of merely replacing cigs with a similar alternative which doesn't rid the problem that we had in the first place. the addiction to that which is unclean, a dependency which is not righteous.

grace and peace unto you all, from our Lord Jesus Christ.

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This, my friends and colleagues, is why I'm proud to consider myself atheist.

 

[pmd]

think godly.

e-cigs are a form of uncleanness

it is a fleshly lust for the nicotine

your mind makes you think your body enjoys/needs it, and that it is a good pleasure to vape your brains out.

in reality, it is of sinful lust and uncleanness. same with caffeine.

but we are all addicted to it, im just saying im going to try to quit, and we all should, not for ourselves, but for God. He loved us first, therefore we should love Him by doing His will.

and i'm sure his will isn't for us to be doing this crap.

If i consistantly vape, i get piercing pains in my lower right side, sometimes left.

piercing pains makes it scary, which makes this habit terrible and unsafe.

it is a worldly corruption, better than cigs or not, this is the first step to quitting nicotine, and everyone should ween off of e-cigs while they still can.

im going to try to, it is hard though, can anyone even quit e-cigs?!

they seem harder to quit than real cigs, because here we get probably much more doses of nicotine, which is hardcore, because then we rely on more and more. it's almost like C R A C K.

and that isn't even allowed to be said on the forum im sure.

but it is true, and i love you all and wish for everyone including myself, to resist the evil temptations of this world, that we may see that which is to come.

for this world shall pass away and a new one will be made.

so you can deny the truth and act like vaping is like skipping through a field of daisys compared to cigarettes, or you can get to reality with its seriousness of merely replacing cigs with a similar alternative which doesn't rid the problem that we had in the first place. the addiction to that which is unclean, a dependency which is not righteous.

grace and peace unto you all, from our Lord Jesus Christ.

Man, I think you should take your lustful thoughts and direct them somewhere else ( anywhere else )

"Lighten up Francis"

 

[Beer Man]

"it is a fleshly lust for the nicotine"

I like that phrase. Mind if I use it?

 

[kase]

LOL, would make a good sig.

 

[Jeff989]

Originally Posted by quiet noobz
think godly.

e-cigs are a form of uncleanness

it is a fleshly lust for the nicotine

your mind makes you think your body enjoys/needs it, and that it is a good pleasure to vape your brains out.

in reality, it is of sinful lust and uncleanness. same with caffeine.

but we are all addicted to it, im just saying im going to try to quit, and we all should, not for ourselves, but for God. He loved us first, therefore we should love Him by doing His will.

and i'm sure his will isn't for us to be doing this crap.

If i consistantly vape, i get piercing pains in my lower right side, sometimes left.

piercing pains makes it scary, which makes this habit terrible and unsafe.

it is a worldly corruption, better than cigs or not, this is the first step to quitting nicotine, and everyone should ween off of e-cigs while they still can.

im going to try to, it is hard though, can anyone even quit e-cigs?!

they seem harder to quit than real cigs, because here we get probably much more doses of nicotine, which is hardcore, because then we rely on more and more. it's almost like C R A C K.

and that isn't even allowed to be said on the forum im sure.

but it is true, and i love you all and wish for everyone including myself, to resist the evil temptations of this world, that we may see that which is to come.

for this world shall pass away and a new one will be made.

so you can deny the truth and act like vaping is like skipping through a field of daisys compared to cigarettes, or you can get to reality with its seriousness of merely replacing cigs with a similar alternative which doesn't rid the problem that we had in the first place. the addiction to that which is unclean, a dependency which is not righteous.

grace and peace unto you all, from our Lord Jesus Christ.

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This, my friends and colleagues, is why I'm proud to consider myself atheist.

Agreed! well i consider my self more of an agnostic kind of person... cuz who knows whats really out there.. this topic is getting way off course LOL

 

[535cheetah]

mannnn i thought i was done posting in this thread, but then the Jehovah witness had to come in lmao .... i believe in god and all ... but holy xxxx man ease back on the almighty Jesus talk , if you wanna preach or be preached at go to church or the Christian part of the forum... just my .02

OK back onto this crazy topic....

 

[ShadowWulf]

Originally Posted by quiet noobz

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This, my friends and colleagues, is why I'm proud to consider myself atheist.

Buhahaha, amen to that

 

[umop apisdn]

Awwww, quiet noobz just trolled the sxxx out of you guys. I hope...

 

[Dillan]

Well, now that the sermon is over, time for a vape!

 

[ACM]

It is time for the mods to delete this thread. It's so far off topic, now, that it's almost pointless to even keep track of it. I am turning off email notifications.

Good bye.

 

[sepper33]

How many "kids" smoke menthol. Why wasn't menthol banned?

Why don't they make sure you show an ID to buy.

Do kids have $7 per pack to spend.

The whole thing was that big tobacco couldn't get in on Kreteks like they wanted to and then..... POOF!!

Actually, I think I've seen that Marlboro made a kretek cigarette for a while, maybe still do...

 

[martha1014]

Really is vaping, craving foods that are not good for us, drinking coffee, craving sex and the list goes on and on is a sin. If it was then everything in life is a sin. The natural craving of things in our life is just a normal part of life and I don't believe God will condem us for these. Some people believe once saved always save and if you commit a sin and you die you will still go to heaven. Others believe the opposite and if you commit a sin and don't ask for forgiveness you will not go to heaven. I am Baptist there I believe once saved always saved.

 

[martha1014]

Also I believe TropicalBob has the right idea. Ecigs should be tested, provide child proof caps and people that are already vaping could be the control group. This process could be done without banning these products. If they fast track this they could be approved for use within a year. I think the FDA will require these to be by prescription only and the mg of eliquid will be decreased. They will require that these be used as a NRT.

This will cost all of of more money but the big pharmacy companies will make a substantial amount of money off of these. I hope this does not happen. I like the freedom to vape the mg I want to and I would enjoy vaping the rest of my life.

 

[IdolLurker]

Well, just look at the outstanding amount of research conducted as to how many kids start smoking because they bought cigarettes online, and I'm sure you'll agree with the bill.

Haha...yeah right. So hopefully the online "tobacco products" sales ban bill won't spill over into e-cigs.

Messing with e-cigarettes makes as much sense as banning antibuse because it makes alcoholics throw up!!!!!!

 

[thanas1s]

It may sound bad to most ppl here, but these days i feel that it is best for e-cigs to remain a niche gazed-upon practice for it not to
be outlawed.

That was not what i thought when i started with e-cigs, 5 months ago. I used to thing that e-cigs are gonna bring a 'revolution' to
something that widespread as smoking that will have changed society itself.... Good thing i am off nicotine, so not much harm they can
do to me, i do enjoy doing some 0 mg e-cigs at home or at long travels.

See, i am pessimistic enough to conclude that in case e-cigs get more widespread they will have to step through, USA or EU/UK authorities,
at a political level to ensure :

a) from a clear/pure incentive that these things are indeed as safe as they appear from the initial semi-formal or otherwise studies.

b) re-calculate public deficit budgets on lieu of this new added cost/decrease on income taxes and impose new ones, possibly on the
devices themselves *

c) due to growing pressure from big pharma / big tobacco ( big tobacco??, really?? ) outlaw or simply blackmail / discredit the
devices, just like they have done with the FDA fear mongering announcement.

d) Do not underestimate the 'free trade - economy' global regime, it is not that easy to ban an import product as it seems.
You can impose certain restrictions but an outright ban... not that easy. The high priests of our days
(see bloomberg, CEO's, WTO, economists e.t.c.) consider it a blashemy !!

I can tell of at least 5 ppl myself who would at least have tried the e-cig should the fda announcement not have hit the global
news front lines for that single day that it did. And imagine that i am talking about greece, there is no way to tell the damage
it has done to e-cigs profile for the US public. And yes, most ppl DO believe what the authorities tell them.

I truly believe that if attention to the whole issue remains 'low', the future of e-cigs is brighter. They cannot prove that it is
dangerous anyway so a ban is difficult to justify and if it is not spread to many ppl it is not a big issue anyway
tax-wise or profit-wise.

* there are ways to tax it, back 50 years how sane do you thing that ppl would have considered a tax on something anyone can
grow at the open county... that is the tobacco plant ... yet today we pay 80% if not more of a pack's price on taxes ...8-o

 

[thanas1s]

lol at how my text 'formatting' turned out

 

[thanas1s]

so is the end near? ... bumbing

 

[Iwannaquit4good]

I don't know if the food I eat from the store is going to kill me. I don't know if the air I breathe is taking years off my life. I don't know if some pig, bird, cow flu is going to knock me off. I don't know if a bus will hit me tomorrow. While I would like to know more info and hard facts on e-cigs. I seriously can't see them being worse then cigarettes, DUI's, hardcore drugs, over loads of sugar, msg, fake sweet sugars, modified foods, most cosmetics have more chemicals in them..then say what my e carts say on the box. Even the ones I buy at Whole foods. Heck my cupcake mix has some of the same goodies my current cart has, minus the nic. So yes I would love to see hard facts if these things are killers. If they try and ban them Smart people will make them at home, probably improve them to be even better and sell to others who can't make them own their own LOL I mean it's a battery, juices you can make and a tippy thing you can rig. O yeah and an LED light. The FDA has done a dandy job at over seeing so much. I would totally trust them yeah right.

 

[TroyS]

I was intrigued by that TIME magazine article when I first came across it as I researched vaping for myself. I would love for further studies on that, as well.

But as far as it being a valid argument for long-term inhalation of PG as of now, I have my doubts. That study was conducted in 1942. Scientific technology has advanced so far from that point that issues not detected in the lungs of the test rodents might likely be detected now, through the use of various types of medical imagery.

So it is an interesting, possible side-benefit of vaping, but still not enough to prove to the lawmakers that vaping needs to be permitted.

Ok, this is my 1st post and I've read this thread and dont believe I missed this. The study from 1942 has been brought up more than once but no mention of the ongoing use of PG in FDA approved products that are INHALED on a regular basis. Both OTC and prescription nasal sprays use PG as a base ingredient. I'm no lawyer but I think this would make an FDA ban all the more difficult w/o banning these products as well.

I believe the FDA and there cohorts would love to ban PVs but thanks to mass media, the internet and forums like this, I dont believe they can do it quietly and thats ultimately what will keep them from doing it at all. Their image is already tarnished enough and they have nothing solid to justify an ecig ban that they can no longer do in the background. That being said, we still can NOT become complacent. The more people who know the truth, the more difficult it makes it for them.

Just my 2 cents.