Genesis AGA T2 Help!

[Electronic_Nog]

As the title mentions, I recently got one of these nifty little tanks, and boy has it given me some problems!

I've tried wrapping coils with steel mesh many different times, and ever time I do it seems that the part of the wire in open air between the wick and the center post contact heats and breaks almost instantly.

I'm using a Bolt (6V), and the coils are reading ~2.0 ohms.

Is this simply a matter of too high power, or am I wrapping it wrong? Might I need to make it a dual coil?

 

[txredxj]

you have a hot spot that needs worked out. never used a bolt but its 6 volts?

i would try lower volts

 

[Electronic_Nog]

Quick update, it appears to only happen on the top, the length of wire in open air between the last wrap and the center post. No matter how I adjust the coils, that is the only part that glows.

 

[Cavere]

Are you running a kick on your bolt? If you google top leg hotspot you will see dozens of posts in the same topic. It's the toughest part of the aga t. But once it's working its great. I'm no master at it yet but it's a lot of playing with the coils finding that sweet spot.

 

[TheSystemHasFailed]

It's all in the oxidative layer you need to build between coil and wick.
Some call it hot-spots...think more in terms of insulation and oxidation.
Pulse slow and low.

 

[Electronic_Nog]

A kick? I don't think so, all I can tell you is I use two 350's in it with an extender ring so they fit.

 

[gokusnimbus]

i've lurked quite heavily on this topic since i was having the same problem with my new genesis. if your steel mesh isnt properly and thoroughly oxidized, it will act as a ground and short your coils. ive seen different techniques on how to oxidize. the basic principle is to create a carbon layer between the steel mesh so the coil will not short. the most common is to torch and juice-quench (light it on fire with your juice). i saw igetcha69s video and after he torched his steel mesh, he wrapped it with cigarette rolling paper and then wrapped the coil around it and dry fired to scorch the paper which created a nice layer of carbon between the coil and the steel mesh. hope that helps

 

[Electronic_Nog]

These mesh is oxidized to hell. Whatever the problem may be, this is not a good tank for a beginner, so I'll write it off as a bad buy and find something else. If five hours can't fix the problem, it isn't worth my time anymore.

 

[TheSystemHasFailed]

Put in one 350, and pulse it slow. Aren't you throwing 7.4 at it whilst stacked?


EDIT: It takes 5 SECONDS. Just wrap the coil, don't oxidize. Now, just tap the fire button. Over and over, you are trying to throw ox. onto it that way. I do it with my mech all the time.
You'll slowly see the power go throughout more and more of the coil.

 

[Electronic_Nog]

I must correct myself there. I'm stacking two RCR123A 3V batteries in it. Problem is, one doesn't fit; it isn't long enough.

 

[Electronic_Nog]

All I saw was the top leg getting red over and over again until it burnt apart.

 

[toughguitar]

What you have is a hot leg. the distance between the wick and center post is to big. A small washer between the two nuts will reduce that distance and bending the wick towards the center post should fix the problem.

 

[TheSystemHasFailed]

I'm telling you. At first you don't even WANT to see color in the coil. As fast as you can press and let go. Quick tap, quick tap.
Over and over. With the goal of not breaking the wire. It may take 30 presses, but on an UN-REGULATED device, it's 100% possible.
Patience sir.

 

[Electronic_Nog]

Alright, you were 100% right. Now my issue is getting a burnt-... taste. Do I need more resistance, I take it?

 

[TheSystemHasFailed]

Alright, you were 100% right. Now my issue is getting a burnt-... taste. Do I need more resistance, I take it?

No. Now the issue is wicking. Tilt it horizontal or a degree under while vaping.

I actually use a piece of 3mm silica rolled in the SS, for two wicking agents.
But at 1.0 I need to tip sometimes.

Oh, and always thoroughly oxidize DRY...burnt could be from lack of ox still and only that one strand going super hot instantly.
This all sounds like so much, but when it becomes like breathing to you, you are going to laugh someday. Hopefully.

 

[Thrasher]

yea you will need much more resistance for 6v

 

[Electronic_Nog]

I got a few good hits from it, but it's really hard to make a good coil on such a small length of wick and such high voltage. Thank you all for your help, this is something I am definitely looking more into.

 

[TheSystemHasFailed]

Take a foot of wire, double it over at the half, and tightly twist it.
Voila, higher gauge wire.

 

[Thrasher]

I got a few good hits from it, but it's really hard to make a good coil on such a small length of wick and such high voltage. Thank you all for your help, this is something I am definitely looking more into.

this is where the drillbit trick shines, you build the coil on it first then just slide the wick in.

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

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