Genesis style tanks

[1337paintbal]

Hey ECF,

I have a few questions about the genesis style tanks and knock-offs like the DID. I'm looking at getting a genesis style and my end up getting the DID to try it out, seems like everyone likes the SS mesh over the silica wicks for FTV. I know the SS mesh can short out the tanks and I've seen a lot of videos on how to carbonize the wicks and wrap the coils. But here are my questions:

1: how does the butane torch and water make the mesh carbonize

2: is the only purpose to reduce the chance of shorting out?

3: why do people burn e-juice on the wick, and what purpose does that serve?

4: how does the SS wick carry juice to the top if it is in-fact steel?

5: is there a better genesis style tank than the DID? If so any recommendations?


I like the silica wicks but they don't wick 100% and give dry burns, cleaning process takes quite a bit of time. If what the reviewers say is true, the SS mesh wicks fast and even if there is a dry hit-- nothing burns.

 

[Baditude]

This subject likely would have been better asked in the rebuildable sub-forum, but perhaps you were a little confused on the best place to ask.

I'm very new to the Genesis-style atty's myself. I just got my new AGA T+ up and running a few days ago. Someone with more knowlege and experience should be by soon to give better answers.

I believe the reason people burn e-liquid on the wick is to prime the wick as well as to observe the balance of heat to the coils with increasing pulses of voltage to the coils. The SS mesh uses capillary action to wick the juice to the heating coil. Those are my answers, and anyone is free to correct anything that I might have answered wrong.

 

[1337paintbal]

I couldn't Decide which section of the forum this goes in, it is re-buildable... but its also a tank. Priming the mesh would make a little sense, but why burn it off, is carbon better at absorbing than steel? If so, has anyone tried carbon fiber? Its pure carbon just formed a different way, only problem is that its super resist to heat, which is why plane breaks use carbon fiber, and water filters use a form of carbon dust. One of the major problems ive ran into is finding a good vendor with ss mesh for high VG juice, that also sells the wire. Not sure which gage wire to get.


Also how long does an ss mesh and wire last? Ive heard it last a lonnng time, what goes bad first? The wick or the wire?

 

[sachavaca]

2 or 3 weeks depending on juice. after that performance begins to deminish. you will hear ppl going on how thiers lasts months bla bla bla. top performance is what im talking about

 

[Baditude]

I believe that the carbon affects the steel wire's conduction of electricity and it's resistance. This is why one needs to continuously monitor the coil's resistance while priming and adjusting it as it can go up or down in resistance at this stage.

 

[Thrasher]

the carbon is a result of burning the chromium within the steel, and yes its just for conductivity, there are better ways to do this now such as just carbonizing the top of the mesh. or if you have a mechanical you can go un oxidized using the coil itself to only carbonize the part of the wick within the coil. leaving the mesh (and your fluid) clean. which causes wicking to improve.
wicks can last a long time some like to change them often, others less. i usually worry about it if a cleaning does not bring it back to the performance i am used too.

The DID is one of the poppa geni's and is well deserving of its reputation. they all work the same way, just little performance differences and mainly the air draw separate them. so most of "whats best" will be what you decide is best, as in draw and feature set. i owned two DID's and thought they were the bomb. im now addicted to the cobra for its tighter draw. but i was thinking of another DID and getting i tighter draw cap for it.


many of the problems we face when looking for replacment wicking material is twofold. will it even wick the juice fast enough for the coil to not overheat and give a good vape? and what sort of chemicals are being released into the vapor when this material is heated.
mesh works by capilary action. fluid moves up the mesh and when the coil produces heat the liquid is replaced from a sort of funneling action, the heat and release of vapor pulls more juice up the wick if it is working properly.

while not a direct comparison think about how a tiki torch works as oil is burned the wick pulls more to the flame.