gennys vs bottom feeders

[Equality 7-2521]

I'm looking for the opinions of people who are pretty familiar with both sides of the coin and ask them about the positives and negatives of bottom feeding over gennys.I'm intrested in BF, but I'm a genny user.I'm looking for great flavor and vapor. I asked this question on the REO thread,great group of people,but let's just say their view was a tad slanted.according to the REO owners God made the heavens and the earth in 6 days,on the seventh......he made a REO. I'm interested in using strictly ceramics in a BF.

 

[pdib]

No. He was vaping a REO the whole time.







"Let's see, firmaments here . . . . . . . . waters there . . . . . . . schhhhhtooooooook "

 

[unloaded]

I've got both and can get about an equal vape from them. The gennys usually stay at home because of the hassle of having to keep them upright. I carry a Reo Mini 2.1 with me everywhere. I've got a Cyclone BF atty on it, 29g coil at 1.2 ohms and 1/32" Nextel wick. I've got Boba's in it and have to do a dry burn every couple of days but I've been running this same setup for a couple of weeks. I work industrial maintenance and its in my shirt pocket all day. It leads a pretty hard life but you can't tell it by looking at it. It's a nice, small, sturdy self contained package. I keep spare batteries in my toolbox at work, so battery life isn't an issue for me. I usually swap at lunchtime but could probably make it a whole shift if I needed to. Get one and give it a try. On the slim chance that it doesn't work for you, they seem to go pretty quick when they are listed in Classifieds. The REOmizer2 might be a better option for the atty, the posts are further apart, the deck is ceramic and they are cheaper. I'll be getting one as soon as the wife settles down from the latest barrage of vape mail packages I've gotten.

 

[unloaded]

Here's some of my mods and the Reo has been getting the lovin lately.

 

[Equality 7-2521]

Damn dude your armed for bear, pro vari, golden greek, is that a carvela on the end.Well it seems the REO is in good company, if it can hold it's own in that crowd.

Here's some of my mods and the Reo has been getting the lovin lately.
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[super_X_drifter]

The lack of replies to this thread lead me to deduce that most of these genny users have never tried bottom feeding?

Conversely, the replies to your thread in the REO forum indicate a cross section of people who have tried both, several of which still use both, but prefer the REO for situations where durability / portability is necessary. Those folks even admit that the vape offered by a REO with a decent RBA either meets, exceeds or comes very close to that offered by a genny.

Perhaps this would explain why there was a decent response on the REO thread and also serve to shed some light as to why most REO users believe that the REO is the best all around vaping device.

As evidenced by this thread, high quality bottom feeders (particularly those that accept quality RBAs) remain somewhat anonymous to most vapers. And to those who have adopted them, they are the device of choice to get a nic fix

 

[FogHawg]

Yeah, I'm considering getting a bottom feeder (most likely a REO) to celebrate an upcoming vaping anniversary. They sure look compact & durable, & everybody seems to love the vape. I just don't understand everything I know about em...

 

[pdib]

I just wanted to mention that this comparison is between a tank atomizer and a tank/device. What you put on your REO is limited only by your imagination or your $ (depending on which you have more of . . . . . ) The only thing where I see a "choice" or limitation necessitating a choice, is in the size of the atomizer's air chamber. Most Genisis style atomizers have a rather large one. The RM2 accommodates a vertical setup. I've modified a Jasl90 Micro-Gen to bottom feeding. But neither of these has the spacious chamber of the Genny. That then is the compromise, choice, at hand. Given that, I choose the always fresh-squeezed juice I get from the REO (with a smaller chamber) to the flavor of the Genny, which is all to often compromised by "wick tail cookery".

BTW: in my case, having the REO as my all day/every day frees up my AGA-T for what it is really good for. A straight up dripper. (Genesis vaping without the soup pot.)

 

[Aoi~]

I have plenty of gennies in the stable, but the REO has been a staple whenever I have to travel, or just plain leave the house for an extended period of time. Put a fresh battery in, and top up the bottle, can't beat the simplicity. I've been running a Chalice on top of a REO grand @ around 1-1.3Ω.

 

[Equality 7-2521]

I just wanted to mention that this comparison is between a tank atomizer and a tank/device. What you put on your REO is limited only by your imagination or your $ (depending on which you have more of . . . . . ) The only thing where I see a "choice" or limitation necessitating a choice, is in the size of the atomizer's air chamber. Most Genisis style atomizers have a rather large one. The RM2 accommodates a vertical setup. I've modified a Jasl90 Micro-Gen to bottom feeding. But neither of these has the spacious chamber of the Genny. That then is the compromise, choice, at hand. Given that, I choose the always fresh-squeezed juice I get from the REO (with a smaller chamber) to the flavor of the Genny, which is all to often compromised by "wick tail cookery".

BTW: in my case, having the REO as my all day/every day frees up my AGA-T for what it is really good for. A straight up dripper. (Genesis vaping without the soup pot.)

Excellent points. The smaller chamber is very attractive and I think it must work, look at how foggatti, and the doodle bug from rocket science, both gennys tried to shrink the vaping chamber.There is even a guy in malayasia that is producing an after market top cap for the AGA-t that mimics the doodle bug top cap to reduce the size of the chamber.There are also guys making derlin plugs to crowd the chamber in there gennys. also I'm intrigued by what you say about cooking the juice with the wick tail, but if you used a ss wick or ceramic wick in a reo it seems you would cook you juice when you squonked onto a hot wick

 

[Equality 7-2521]

I have to concede the point, so far.Although portability seems to be the main selling point.Quality of vape is my bugaboo.

The lack of replies to this thread lead me to deduce that most of these genny users have never tried bottom feeding?

Conversely, the replies to your thread in the REO forum indicate a cross section of people who have tried both, several of which still use both, but prefer the REO for situations where durability / portability is necessary. Those folks even admit that the vape offered by a REO with a decent RBA either meets, exceeds or comes very close to that offered by a genny.

Perhaps this would explain why there was a decent response on the REO thread and also serve to shed some light as to why most REO users believe that the REO is the best all around vaping device.

As evidenced by this thread, high quality bottom feeders (particularly those that accept quality RBAs) remain somewhat anonymous to most vapers. And to those who have adopted them, they are the device of choice to get a nic fix

 

[pdib]

Squonking onto a hot wick. It took me a couple days with the REO to shake that urge. I always wanted to take a toot and squonk. Now I don't squeeze til i'm actually about to put it to my face. Much less hot wick squonking this way. Also, we design our wicks and adjust our squonks towards using up the juice that gets sent to the top floor. With the stone, I must admit, you might be conserving a little more heat than usual, so, yeah; But with cotton, nextel, hemp etc. wicking, (and the air-cooling fins of the RM2) the heat dissipates pretty quickly. So, If I take a vape every 40 seconds (which would be alot, repeatedly), and I don't juice it for 35 seconds . . . . . it makes a big difference.

In any case, it isn't 1.5x3" of ss mesh hanging into your juice bottle. its, maybe 0.5x1" floating in the air.

When I was messing with the fishstix, I'd have maybe a 3/8" long cylinder of 3/32 diameter in a dripper. That's not a massive heat sink.

 

[pdib]

I have to concede the point, so far.Although portability seems to be the main selling point.Quality of vape is my bugaboo.

I may not have mentioned this (or not clearly) in your other post, wtfguy, but I am a serious seeker of the best flavored vape. I was focused mostly (95%) on Gennys until I tried Gooseboxing . . . . . . . . I innovated a bunch of wick designs (maybe imitated, but not knowingly) to beat the Genny . . . . anyhow . . .. not sayin'. Just sayin'. I got really lucky, cause super_X_drifter actually sent me a REO & RM2 in the mail, just to try it out. Haven't looked back.

 

[Equality 7-2521]

That is quite a recomendation

 

[pdib]

I know, now I'll be wrong somehow (it'll turn out), and I'll have to go down to the bad ↓ place, . . . . . . . .oh I know it!

 

[pdib]

Did you ever see my 7 stranded ss mesh tube twisted rope wick?

 

[kabonk]

I have and use both I think the quality of vape on a on my boggers dns20 or my VVW Reo or VVG Reo is really good with a bottom fed RBA I think the flavor is just as good as with MY DIDs or AGA-T

 

[niczgreat]

You won't go wrong either way, I've tried [trying both]

I"m on a AGI ssmesh 400, 3 wraps of Kanthal 28 Gauge for a .4ohm vape on a K100 Mechanical.

It's an excellent vape that approaches the Bottom Fed Mods.

At this point in time I recommend Bogger Box VV over the Reo Grande. I'll leave it at that for the moment as the jury is out whether I received a defective Reo or the Reo can't take Low Ohm Vaping [.5 Ohm]. Or whether I broke the Reo and did a bad rebuild.
As for Bottom Feeding verse Genesis

The Squonk, involves instant saturation of the wick and draws excess provides the ultimate
vape because you get instant wicking. The Reomizer [Arguably] the best RBA for bottom feeders is
much easier to build.

Still the AGI is giving me an excellent vape.
and have tried both.

I like the bottom feeder better than the AGI but the AGI [Genny Style] is very good.
I bought a Lanyard to hang around my neck for the AGI because if it tilts adios big mess in your pocket.

Never had that problem with the Bottom Feeders.

 

[super_X_drifter]

Again, even never having tried a genny, based on my own experience and the testimony in the what, 40 or so posts in your thread in REOsmods forum, I'm not coming to the conclusion that a REO only excels at portability?

To me, the vape is as good as I will ever need a vape to be., Consistent, Copious, voluminous clouds of insanely satisfying, bland, cigarette like vapor are what my REOs churn out.

I'm not on a budget. If I want something, I get it. I could get any vaping devices I damn well please. That's why I have the best vaping devices available. Wether I'm sitting here on the porch or riding my dirtbike with my REO bouncung around in a belt pack.

There's nothing out there that could produce a better vape than I get from my REOs, a good RBA and a micro coil around some XC 116 ceramic or rolled cotton. If it does, I don't need it .

 

[Equality 7-2521]

No haven't seen it , but a good idea, I used to roll a ss straw wick then roll a smaller solid wick to slide into the straw, the idea was it would create a capillary action.

Did you ever see my 7 stranded ss mesh tube twisted rope wick?