Genuine Product Information - Please read!!! Regarding knock off products

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yiddleboge6

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There seems to be a rash of confusion lately regarding the Vision vivi nova and the authenticity of Genuine versus knock off product.

This has been the case for many products, China is famous for this, one guy can have a product made and weeks to a month later copies are being sold and even lower quality product from the same factory which is sold for less. Sometimes all the raw material is the same and the factory that does the work is the deciding factor, other times there will be product that are very similar but you can see from closer inspection its not or its a older version etc.

This was prevalent when the CE2 original fluxomizers where brought to the scene, 40 copies where out in a matter of months but there was still a difference from the original and people noticed and while some where happy with certain knock off's the original where always preferred and usually always where better either in performance or materials or both.

This happened with the Phoenix bottom coil and top coil, other factories copied them and they didnt perform well which confuses people and makes people think they are all the same, it hurts the products reputation for no reason.

The Sapphire bud was copied shortly after as well.

This is now happening with the Vision vivi nova, ALL COPIES AND FAKES are selling it as the vivi nova and not the vision vivi nova, either way they are using OUR name That Vision & The helpers & I created. At the moment, if your not buying the original genuine VISION vivi product you have no idea what you might receive, this includes heads. Some vendors are actually selling coil heads for vision bodies that dont fit properly, this confuses everyone, others are selling older version just becuase they got them cheaper, this confuses people. We at gotvapes along with other Reputable Vendors dont partake in that type of business and only sell genuine products from the original companies that make the products we sell, this pertains to the big brands like smoktech , vision team(max), joyetech, Greensound & all the other more popular companies. Some may claim what they have is the same but its usually not, especially when you see it at prices that make no sense, customers should be leary when buying products that are knock offs.

At the moment you can find 30 places selling their version of the vision ego stardust under many names in china, many have found out for them selves that cheaper doesnt always mean better and have been burned by straying away from a more certified product. You want quality and we strive for that. We keep improving and will continue this path.

Please don't misunderstand me either, there are many products that many vendors sell that are exactly the same, joyetech would be one of them , many of us vendors sell joyetech, esco , greensound products etc and they are all equal but many of those are copied as well, many of us sell vision products and at times they are all equal, depending on who gets which version first according to which vendor helped on whatever product, or if a company wants a specific set of products to be released by us because of how big we are then that would be the difference but over all if a company is up to date like we are and they sell a kanger product then ours would be the same higher quality product and vice versa. Right now the joyetech twist is being copied, so i would be careful and make sure the vendor lets you know its a genuine joyetech product, the real vendors like us do so, the other less reputable places might not tell you and some will let you know its a copy.

Here is the official vendors list for the usa of reputable vision re-sellers and we all sell genuine vision products and we are the leader in bringing you the latest and greatest and being on top of the game for all of you, be careful where you shop, be alert and always shop with reputable vendors on or off of ecf and rest assured that at gotvapes we will always carry the original versions.

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joytech list
Joyetech worldwide business partner

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There seems to be a rash of confusion lately regarding the Vision vivi nova and the authenticity of Genuine versus knock off product.

This has been the case for many products, China is famous for this, one guy can have a product made and weeks to a month later copies are being sold and even lower quality product from the same factory which is sold for less. Sometimes all the raw material is the same and the factory that does the work is the deciding factor, other times there will be product that are very similar but you can see from closer inspection its not or its a older version etc.

This was prevalent when the CE2 original fluxomizers where brought to the scene, 40 copies where out in a matter of months but there was still a difference from the original and people noticed and while some where happy with certain knock off's the original where always preferred and usually always where better either in performance or materials or both.

This happened with the Phoenix bottom coil and top coil, other factories copied them and they didnt perform well which confuses people and makes people think they are all the same, it hurts the products reputation for no reason.

The Sapphire bud was copied shortly after as well.

This is now happening with the Vision vivi nova, ALL COPIES AND FAKES are selling it as the vivi nova and not the vision vivi nova, either way they are using OUR name That Vision & The helpers & I created. At the moment, if your not buying the original genuine VISION vivi product you have no idea what you might receive, this includes heads. Some vendors are actually selling coil heads for vision bodies that dont fit properly, this confuses everyone, others are selling older version just becuase they got them cheaper, this confuses people. We at gotvapes along with other Reputable Vendors dont partake in that type of business and only sell genuine products from the original companies that make the products we sell, this pertains to the big brands like smoktech , vision team(max), joyetech, Greensound & all the other more popular companies. Some may claim what they have is the same but its usually not, especially when you see it at prices that make no sense, customers should be leary when buying products that are knock offs.

At the moment you can find 30 places selling their version of the vision ego stardust under many names in china, many have found out for them selves that cheaper doesnt always mean better and have been burned by straying away from a more certified product. You want quality and we strive for that. We keep improving and will continue this path.

Please don't misunderstand me either, there are many products that many vendors sell that are exactly the same, joyetech would be one of them , many of us vendors sell joyetech, esco , greensound products etc and they are all equal but many of those are copied as well, many of us sell vision products and at times they are all equal, depending on who gets which version first according to which vendor helped on whatever product, or if a company wants a specific set of products to be released by us because of how big we are then that would be the difference but over all if a company is up to date like we are and they sell a kanger product then ours would be the same higher quality product and vice versa. Right now the joyetech twist is being copied, so i would be careful and make sure the vendor lets you know its a genuine joyetech product, the real vendors like us do so, the other less reputable places might not tell you and some will let you know its a copy.

Here is the official vendors list for the usa of reputable vision re-sellers and we all sell genuine vision products and we are the leader in bringing you the latest and greatest and being on top of the game for all of you, be careful where you shop, be alert and always shop with reputable vendors on or off of ecf and rest assured that at gotvapes we will always carry the original versions.

News Details - Vision High Technology

joytech list
Joyetech worldwide business partner

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All I have to says is I am kinda new to this, I unknowingly purchased a fake. The site was slick with covering the fact that it was a fake. Not only was it crap on top of crap (Bent center post, heads that would not allow top cap to screw all the way down, scratched up), the site sold it had a photo of the real Vivi Nova (they changed it after I complained, wish I had taken a screen shot...). I am out of the money and it's in the trash... Simply hope the people that do this understand they are making a poor impact on new people wanting to get into Vape and it's a messed up reflection on the community that many good people are attempting to progress. The experience took me away from learning about what flavor I want or the type of system I want, and became a lesson of watching out for the "wana be, for dollar" people. Such is life, and where the is the information on the Eternity so I can make a choice of a Real Vivi Nova vs Eternity. lol. Phew my rant is done.
 
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the vision eternity is a real vision product and even if its copied down the road you can check the list on the vision site or shop with us knowing we gaurentee it will be real.

im sorry to hear your story and its real issue and by the responses here it had happened to many of us.

They know what they are doing when they sell fakes, they will say its china its all the same but in reality its not true, china produces good products, not all factories though are equal, the issue is there is many many factories but not many good ones, so these other places might need to compete somehow since the bigger better known vendors wont deal with fakes as we all have been burned before, so they buy the cheaper knock offs and pass it on to the customer for a cheaper price, the customer sees a pic, thinks its the same and sees it for dollars cheaper and assume the other places are ripping people off when its the cheaper one thats the rip off and unfortunetly the one that gets hurt the most if the unknowing customer.

This isnt about quality control as even the top companies can have crazy things happen but they stand behind it and so do we and they fix it, these other places use cheaper, older less quality product and then they dont build them well and your left with a mess.
 
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There is a longer list of Joye distributors here; Joyetech brand offline electronic cigarette shops

Anyone know if there's a difference between "business partners" and "distributors"? I noticed there are some on the distributor like that aren't on the partner list and then some that are on both.

Oh, and knockoffs or not, every Nova head retailer I've seen have been more expensive. Silly, huh? I'll stick with GV, simply because I know the product is good.
 
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