Getting Headaches...any Suggestions?

[Belletrist]

The liver has no name....and aint getting one until he comes out. I drizzled a trail of vodka to a box trap. We'll see.....

ewwwwwwwww.

 

[Joe Camel]

OK, did some reading. I didn't realize at first that we were talking about PG metabolites. What are the amounts we're inhaling? How many mg of PG are there in one carto? The acceptable daily intake seems to be up to 25 mg per kg of body weight. But that is of course PG ingested or injected, not vaped. But still, I don't think we're anywhere near that amount. All the concerns about possible acidosis, hypoglycaemia, seizures, stupor and cardiac irregularities apply to much, much higher doses. Of course, we're mixing it with a rather powerful poison... As we agreed, all these things will eventually be studied, but for now we have to help ourselves and each other and keep our eyes wide open.

I also ran all those other metabolites by my resident pulmonologist--he didn't seem concerned. He says a sugar molecule is a sugar molecule, it falls apart, it comes together again. In his educated opinion all these metabolites will eventually find each other and form a big glucose molecule along the way. They are all innocuous and present in our bodies at all times, in one form or another. Compared to cigarette smoke...those are just as risky as sugared water (and vinegar-acetic acid).

I feel better. This is fascinating, isn't it?





Estimated acceptable daily intake: up to 25 mg propylene
glycol per kg body weight (Seventeeth Report of the FAO/WHO
Expert Committee, 1974).

Everything is bad for you if you take too much. I read a scientific study on the antioxidant 'beta-carotene' where they gave 7 groups of people different amounts of it to study the effects of it. They did a blind study with groups receiving everything from a placebo of it, to a group with 2 times the recommended dose. The researchers were to have no idea which group was which and until the study was over with each groups given amount being in sealed envelopes so it would remain unbiased. Half way through the study one group started developing cancer so they were forced to end the research. Upon opening the envelopes to see which group it was, they found out (you guessed it) that the group taking 2 times the recommended amount were the people getting cancer.

Sorry I don't have the source available. You'll have to take my word for it.
Edit: It wasn't the rda (Recommended Dietary Allowances) they were given 2 times the amount of, it was 2 times the UL (Tolerable Upper Intake Level)

 

[Katya]

Amen. One can die from drinking too much water.

 

[lonercom]

You started this thread Weds. talking about your headaches. Howyadoin?

 

[Kimmy]

You started this thread Weds. talking about your headaches. Howyadoin?

Increased my water consumption. I should be drinking 8 glasses of water daily, but I was drinking wayy too much diet pepsi. Much better now, thank you!

 

[jimk55]

I think for those that have quit analogs all together there is a constant change in your ability to taste subtle elements that are in the flavoring. As your taste buds heal and repair from years of pulling hot tar and chemicals across them they start to work like they should and can be a suprise to your brain when comparing a perceived expectation to a new sensation. I think this can go on for at least 6 months. I know that I had kept a couple of carts from the first week of vaping hanging around and when I tried a couple after the first month I found the taste completly different than my original experience. Trying different flavors and strengths may be the answer to having a constant enjoyable vaping experience. Changing the MG and flavor maybe the only way to stay on track with e-cigs rather then analogs, if that is your choice.

 

[lonercom]

Much better now, thank you!

Glad 2 hear it.

 

[TheBlueAdept]

I need to drink more liquids too; already drinking way too much coffee, the more I am learning I see I really need to pay more attention to this!!