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Getting lots of vapor, but NASTY taste with favorite juice

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  1. Mell4now

    Mell4now Full Member

    Apr 24, 2011
    Western MA.
    Hello all who clicked here. I know that I kind of overused the ECF forum tonite with this being my 3rd thread, but I am having an issue with one of my new ego T atty's. Im going to try to stick to the basics

    1) Blew out primer
    2) filled with familiar juice
    3) big smoke plume, horrible taste
    4) drew out more smoke, still big plumes but nasty flavor
    5) rinsed with water/dried
    6) primed with familiar juice
    7) first pull good, second pull ok, 3rd pull gross all with massive vapor plumes
    8) soaked in alcohol/ rinsed with water/dried/ primed with familiar juice
    9) same results as 7

    Atty#2 was ok after just blowing out the primer. awesome plumes with very little "off" taste. It probably will be fine after refilling one or two more times.

    The best way to describe this nasty flavor from atty #1 is that it is not at all sweet, it tastes almost as if you light an analog cigarette backwards or smoked a cig down to the filter. It also has a burning harsh sort of property/aftertaste on the tip of my tongue and back of my throat. Another thing to note is the juice is disappearing out of my tank (but it's NOT leaking all over my hands or getting in my mouth)

    Not sure what gives. Is it normal for a new atty to taste that bad after rinsing twice and getting so much good juice? I suppose i will try soaking it tonight instead of just rinsing.

    Thanks for viewing
     
  2. StormFinch

    StormFinch Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 22, 2010
    Arkansas
    Questions are good, don't worry about asking them. It's the ones that don't ask questions that we worry about. ;) :laugh:

    It really does sound like that particular atty isn't getting enough juice and is burning. With your tank wicking though, I just don't know since I don't use them. Bumping this to the top for someone with tank experience. :)
     
  3. meems

    meems Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 30, 2010
    Ohio
    Sounds like primer crud to me...ugh it seems to take forever to get that off for me...even soaking in alcohol didn't get it this last time.
     
  4. hawkfire1

    hawkfire1 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 26, 2011
    Hawaii
    sounds like a wicking issue to me, since it sounds like he is vaping the primed e liquid and he isnt drawing enough liquid from the tank to keep the wick wet. Maybe the tank isn't snapped all the way in?
     
  5. Gizmo362

    Gizmo362 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 21, 2009
    North Coast
    Actually, I found that some attys have a wick under the bridge that extends down to the wicking material under neath the coil. I had three out of 10 that did that. I can only assume that the wick under the bridge got loose and layed on the coil and was burning with a bad taste no matter how much I cleaned the atty. I removed the wick and the burnt taste went away. Take a look to see if there is anything on or near the coil that shouldn't be there.
     
  6. hawkfire1

    hawkfire1 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 26, 2011
    Hawaii
    hmmm,

    the 510/Ego T atomizer's wick goes through both sides of the coil and ends in the middle of the needle.

    Besides, I don't think removing the wick from a tank atomizer is a good idea unless the OP will be dripping.
     
  7. ckgjt

    ckgjt Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 3, 2011
    Ga
    I notice when I clean my atomizer and refill it, it takes almost an entire tank to re wet the coil.
     
  8. Mell4now

    Mell4now Full Member

    Apr 24, 2011
    Western MA.
    Thanks for the input so far and for the bump. I Never dismantled an atty before but am getting close to raiding the drawers at my work to borrow some retired dental tools for that purpose. I just took "stinky" out of a pot of boiling water (as opposed to running under the tap for a few seconds) and got some nasty scented liquid out. dried it for a 3rd time and am trying again. So far there is notable improvement after a few hits, the overall burnt flavor is still there but very muted, and the flavor of the e-juice is starting to vape thru. @ hawkfire, i did notice at first when I put the tanks on, the needle did not pierce the membranes right away and i had to manually pierce them with a paperclip.
     
  9. Mell4now

    Mell4now Full Member

    Apr 24, 2011
    Western MA.
    been vaping on my hardboiled atty for about 5 min and am almost able to inhale. I think one more boil might do the trick. maybe I'll toss the other one in too. I read about the cola and denture cleaner methods of cleaning too but have a bad feeling about those (isnt cola really caustic to some metals?)
     
  10. JumpSteady

    JumpSteady Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 20, 2011
    Pigeon Forge, TN
    I'm having the exact same problem. The ego-t atomizers I just got are not genuine Joye ego-t. They look identical to the Joye ones but they don't say ego-t on them. I knew they weren't genuine Joye when I ordered them, but was hoping they would be good. I am disappointed and have gone back to using a Joye ego-t atomizer and a boge cartomizer. I may try to get them working later, but for now I'm tired of messing with them. I did burn one because the tank did not get pierced but I boiled it in water and it still tastes burnt, my other new one should work but also has that burnt taste. The new one my girlfriend is using she says works fine. At least one seems usable out of 3.
     
  11. hawkfire1

    hawkfire1 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 26, 2011
    Hawaii
    Ughhhhhhhh

    You burnt either the cup or or you burnt the primer to the wick and probably wont ever get that taste out short of disassembling it and actually replacing the wick.

    Boiling it won't get rid of the taste, but vaping a tank of straight 100% PG might clean it for you.

    My experience is that when new, the Ego T atomizer should always be primed with 8-10 drops of liquid before snapping the tank in place to prevent dry burning. Ego T atomizer + Dry burn= bad tasting or dead atty.

    The key to keeping the ejuice tasting ok is to keep that wick wet.
     
  12. Mell4now

    Mell4now Full Member

    Apr 24, 2011
    Western MA.
    I finally broke down and dismantled it broke a piece and reassembled. IT worked but still tasted bad. so I went to dismantle it again and accidentally grabbed a thin wire instead of the wick... the thing is toast!!! but it took one for the team. Now I know what NOT to do with an ego T atty!!
     
  13. pixiedust

    pixiedust Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 23, 2011
    Nevada
    IMO they are junk...I regret ever buying them, although without the atty's and tanks the batteries are very useful
     
  14. Sugar_and_Spice

    Sugar_and_Spice ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Sep 11, 2010
    between here and there
    All of my tank atties have EGO-T imprinted on them....Just don't have the problems you guys and gals post about....I get mine from goodprophets.com.....
    :)
     
  15. hawkfire1

    hawkfire1 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 26, 2011
    Hawaii
    I am happy that you have no issues with your setup.

    But, just how does having Ego-T imprinted on the atty affect the performance of the tank atomizer? To me, that's like saying that if I put a sticker that says made by God that the atomizer and tank will work perfectly without issues? After all made by God is imprinted on the atomizer.

    I fail to see how your post relates or helps the OPs issue.

    You know, your post sorta just rubs me the wrong way. Perhaps like condescending in meaning and not helpful at all.

    When you have mass produced items, you are bound to have duds and manufacturing issues and one must take that into account when buying and using factory produced items of any sort.

    To imply that Just because Ego-T is imprinted on an atty makes it either perfect or better somehow is just wrong

    That, of course is just my opinion.

    Anyhow, it seems the OP messed up the needle plate somehow and the atty no longer wicks at all.

    If the atomizer still fires, he can still use it as a drip atty and not waste it.
     
  16. Mell4now

    Mell4now Full Member

    Apr 24, 2011
    Western MA.
    unfortunatley atty is toast!!! no reviving that one at all!!! the wire i pulled out was an inch long. (came from underneith the drip plate which i pried out using a dental tool) I still have one perfectly fine atty though and will be tinkering with the tank system a bit more before calling it quits. ( Now, the tank discharges all its juice into the atty and my cig leaks like crazy. must transport it in a ziplock bag cause it leaks so bad!!)
     
  17. hawkfire1

    hawkfire1 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 26, 2011
    Hawaii
    use a new plastic tank
     
  18. JumpSteady

    JumpSteady Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 20, 2011
    Pigeon Forge, TN

    Yeah. The hole gets stretched out I think. If I have one that leaks I use a new tank. I have some tanks with hard caps and some with soft caps. I have noticed the hard cap ones leak after a while and that the soft cap ones pull out too easily and the tank can come completely out if it's in a pocket or my girlfriends purse. A brand new hard cap works best for me.
     
  19. JumpSteady

    JumpSteady Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 20, 2011
    Pigeon Forge, TN
    I think he is implying that genuine Joye ego-t atomizers that actually say ego-t on them are better than cheap knockoffs. The genuine Joye ego-t atomizers that I had out of 4 all worked, and worked well. The cheap copies I bought that were 1/2 the cost only 1 out of 3 is usable. The other 2 taste burnt. Admittedly one was my fault.
     
  20. Sandybeach40

    Sandybeach40 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 7, 2010
    Colorado
    Get a LR Joye 510 or Joye LR 306 atty. Get a drip tip. Always keep the atty wet. Never clean the attys. After a few weeks or months the atty will die or slowly stop working as good. Throw it away and put a new one on. If you do this you will be good. Good luck. Ego Ts run the risk of running a dry atty. A dry atty can cause your atty to obtain a terrible flavor. At that point you think you need to clean them. Cleaning them usually ruins them. Good luck.
     
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