Getting very annoyed with my 510

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zoiDman

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Why do you not like Cartomizers?

The eGo with a cartomizer is going to look and have the same size as an eGo with a cart/atty.

As to why he hates cartomizers. Haven't you figured it out yet?

Half off the people on this board hate cartomizers and the other half love them. And viesa-versa.

It's kinda of a Blue Chevy, Green Ford thing.
 

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The eGo with a cartomizer is going to look and have the same size as an eGo with a cart/atty.

As to why he hates cartomizers. Haven't you figured it out yet?

Half off the people on this board hate cartomizers and the other half love them. And viesa-versa.

It's kinda of a Blue Chevy, Green Ford thing.

Lol no I have not figured it out yet, or I wouldn't have asked.

I'm curious to why some love it, and some hate it.
 

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Lol no I have not figured it out yet, or I wouldn't have asked.

I'm curious to why some love it, and some hate it.

Well, since you opened the box...

People like carts/attys or dripping because they say it gives a better hit.

People like cartomizers because they say it is easier, more consistent and last longer.

I for one started with carts/atty's. I loved it when it was working right. But the carts didn't last very long and atty's would get funky tastes sometimes. The atty's also cost about 10$ a peice and don't last forever.

I tried cartomizers and perhaps the hit was a tad less than carts/atty's but they were consistant. They last hours and they are cheap and refillable. You can also change flavors by just screwing on a new carto with a new flavor in it.

So for me, I'll give up a very small amount of flavor to get all the benefits of a cartomizer.

A word of warning. All 510 cartos are not the same. I have tried some that were fantastic and some that were piss poor.

I like Blank "Boge" soft tip cartos. I then fill them with my own juice.

Best thing to do is try them yourself. You are going to get 20 people that say that cartomizers are the Only way to go. You are also going to get 20 people saying that cart/atty' or dripping is the Only way to go.

No one is right. It's just what You like and what works best for you.
 

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1-Ok, so you and pop love reds and black and milds..enough said. If you use a 510, batting in the cart must be THIN. Like 1/2 of what u normally see in a fresh empty cart. White fluval works great too, its what I use- all fluffed up, very light cut to exact size. You can use blue, but it floods easily. Youd be amazed how little of the white batting will hold your liquid without flooding, but allow a great consistent vape.
2- more than 5 seconds on a 510 and you risk burning the wick
3- if it gets red in under 5 seconds, its generally at the end of lifespan.
4- if your going ego with LR atty, you can use carts and blue fluval. blue fluval cut to exact size of cart will flood like noones business, BUT on LR you'll burn liquid twice as fast..its a perfect combo. dripping is inconsistent vape and annoying. But 5-6 drops or full cart blue fluval, and you have steady flow until empty..(don't vape a whole cart in one sitting)
5- go for 24 or 36 mg on 510, if LR drop to 18-24, or get ready to choke :)
6- proper 510s work well. If its off, then nothing short of experience will help you figure out why, and if its fixable, or just bad atty. Joyes wicks have been misplaced as of late, its causing issues.
 

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I had the same frustrations till I started dripping. I also found it much easier to drip 3 drops on my 510 atty than to refill carts or cartos. Also, the juice makes a big difference in TH. I think of dripping like I'm lighting a real cig. It does take a little longer but I also get the equivalent of about 2 analogs from 3 drips on my 510 atty. I also have a stainless steal drip tip which helps make dripping easier.
 

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1-Ok, so you and pop love reds and black and milds..enough said. If you use a 510, batting in the cart must be THIN. Like 1/2 of what u normally see in a fresh empty cart. White fluval works great too, its what I use- all fluffed up, very light cut to exact size. You can use blue, but it floods easily. Youd be amazed how little of the white batting will hold your liquid without flooding, but allow a great consistent vape.
2- more than 5 seconds on a 510 and you risk burning the wick
3- if it gets red in under 5 seconds, its generally at the end of lifespan.
4- if your going ego with LR atty, you can use carts and blue fluval. blue fluval cut to exact size of cart will flood like noones business, BUT on LR you'll burn liquid twice as fast..its a perfect combo. dripping is inconsistent vape and annoying. But 5-6 drops or full cart blue fluval, and you have steady flow until empty..(don't vape a whole cart in one sitting)
5- go for 24 or 36 mg on 510, if LR drop to 18-24, or get ready to choke :)
6- proper 510s work well. If its off, then nothing short of experience will help you figure out why, and if its fixable, or just bad atty. Joyes wicks have been misplaced as of late, its causing issues.

How do I know exactly if my joye 510 is LR?
I smoke it for about 5-8 seconds to get that throat it. Maybe it's the juice i'm using but when ordering different I am going to ask the vendor what is there hardest hitting juice.
The pops wants me to order him a Joye eGo, because it lasts longer and will provide more vapor and a better throat hit from what I read and was told.
How do I know if an e-cig is using a LR atty?

I'm going to stick with the 510 and occasionally puff his eGo.

But now I am stuck between what to order the Rival or the Joye eGo.
 

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I had the same frustrations till I started dripping. I also found it much easier to drip 3 drops on my 510 atty than to refill carts or cartos. Also, the juice makes a big difference in TH. I think of dripping like I'm lighting a real cig. It does take a little longer but I also get the equivalent of about 2 analogs from 3 drips on my 510 atty. I also have a stainless steal drip tip which helps make dripping easier.

I don't want to drip I want it to last me awhile. Dripping seems to be more work and a hassle if out and about.
 

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The low resistance atties are sold as such with no warranty. They are a lil cheaper too. To ME, and im a bit of a 510 expert, it sounds like your atty is ready to give up the ghost, or you have a misplaced wick. If the wick is blocking, or touching the coil, it will take longer seconds to get a good hit. If you need more than 5 seconds to get a good hit, your juice is too low a mg or atty isnt working right. You can pull on your wick a bit (the clear stuff that looks like feathers) and see if it unwinds under the bridge, as it should run parallel to the coil but not touch it.A perfect wick almost looks like a bowtie. There is supposed to be a slight gap between coil and wick. If you have a backup atty, maybe you could just remove the wick altogether. Hard to diagnose problems and solutions short of sheer experience.
As far as the LR, side by side with a standard atty, the LR will get hot FAST. Cant tell them apart by looking, but production is significantly different. They drain battery fast though, which I believe is why you need a high MAH rated battery for em.
 

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If your a heavy smoker like me, youll want 24 mg liquid and buy atties by the 5 pack up to 20 at time, as you'll only get 2 weeks off an atty. LR are fun toys for stressful days that give a nice boost. Do the blue fluval setup for those. But for your normal days, a 510 with 24 mg and good cart setup should do you fine. The batting thing is one of the biggest issues ppl face, and why so many ppl mod the carts. But Ive found that white fluval, though it CAN get stick in bridge on occasion, but not too often, is the easiest, and most consistant way to setup carts that flow well and dont leak, and works for heavy vapors as well as light.
 

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BradSmith suggests: Take the cart off and drip 2 to 3 drops at a time in the atty and hit it without putting the cart back on. when the hit drops off usually after 10 hits or so. give it a little break and repeat."

I'm confused. How can one take a hit off of the atomizer coil with the cart off?

It's called tailpiping. You don't put the cart back on and you just hit the atty. On a 510 the bridge is recessed enough that you can easily do this without burning yourself, or getting liquid in your mouth as long as you stick with 2 or 3 drops and don't flood it.

I did this for a while before I got a drip tip. Honestly if you can't get a big enough hit this way, you need to either step up your voltage or buy new liquid. that's of course taking for granted that you have a properly working atty.

Obviously this isn't for everyone, but there are a few of us around.
 
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