Yea baby yea got me a ggtb from vaporkings.com... one of the last ones to go out from there..all nickel shiny and everything...sure I had to wait for a blizzard...and some other random day but hey I finally got...
the GGTB
That was about 8 hours ago. Since then its has been an epic battle between me the Golden Greek and my 17670 batteries.... my advice is if your thinking of using this as a unit for your cheap ultrafire 17670 for all day 3.7 vaping...don't. It literally ate the tape off of one of my batteries...and before some one goes off and blames china...as someone is going to do, yes china has variance in width of its batteries but KNOWING that why would you build a unit that didn't compensate for such variance. There are a few threads on ecf of people saying they had some very tight fits with ultrafire 17670's and the ggtb...but there is at least one thread of someone showing the unit holding such a battery and there is an Australian ggtb retailer who actually sells the ultrafires for the unit. After it ate the protective tape off of one of my batteries with its threading nothing short of a hammer and a plastic insert (to hit with the hammer) managed to unjam that battery.
The only reason I know this thing even works is because I took the 14500's out of my crap box (thank you madvapes) and after managing to disassemble the "telescopic battery" insert I got some vapor....great I got an over priced over sized 14500 battery holder. I know this isn't the only mod that does this, fits only one brand of battery, the Icon from puresmoker acts the same way but at least they clearly tell you that protected trustfire 14500 will not fit in their unit...no such warning on any ggtb site that I have seen, again far from a warning one site actually lists the battery as compatible.
grrr
Kobold:0
GGTB:1
So...There I was one downed battery (I aint trusting a li-ion thats been hammered on and de-taped) one shiny GG and one 14500 that is mocking me for ever thinking I could get a higher mah battery. But I have one more 17670....and damn it I am not going down without a fight.
So I huff
and I puff....and I gently prod and push until the 17670 is fully inserted..and YES this one looks good...so I screw on the bottom and top caps...reinstall the button...push the button and NOTHING!
What? So I unscrew the bottom and tops caps take the button back off and look inside...yes yes I see the problem the battery is to large to be pushed around by the spring (which I hear should be replaced with a copper spring for better performance) so the top part isn't touching metal...well ok so I put a pencil up the back of the ggtb to push the battery up then partially screw on the top cap and then screw on the bottom cap all the way...reinstall the button (which I hear should be replaced with magnets for better performance) and then finish screwing on the top cap all the way down...and then I push the button...and ....nothing...wait wait..one second after pushing the button down I hear a sizzle
Kobold:1 GGTB:1
Ok so now that I have a functioning 3.7 17670 device how do I rate it....this is a review after all
well its ok...its actually not bad
Form: Its shiny...looks good, I got the nickle plated version and it does attract finger prints but that is to be expected. Its a bit big but it has a nice heft to it.
Function
Don't think for an instance your guaranteed to be able to use the nice affordable ultrafires 17670 1800mah batteries....I hear the far more expensive AW batteries fit like a glove...I wouldn't know I neither have AW 17670 batteries or gloves. The ultrafire that fits has to be pushed out with a pencil inserted from the bottom of the mod...its a headache to be sure.
Button- My button feels like its grinding on something when I push it down...a jarring sandpaper quality that I will have to disassemble later and see if its dirty..I hope this isn't something that only magnets will fix...but I am testing it out as I got it and that is how I got it out of the mailbox. It also tends to come off when I go to lock the button...not a big deal I just screw it back down. There is also a strange delay from the time I push the button till it actually fires...its not a misfire..it seems to eventually fire every time...its just a delayed fire.
I do like the locking option though.
Its 901 native, I hear stories of a 510 ggtb but so far if you want to vape 510 you use an adapter...I have plenty of adapters and I can say that the ones from goodprophets work wonderfully on it. I also tried a kr808 cartomizer on it and that worked well (as you would expect but sometimes they don't)
vapor- ..I was so thrilled to hear a working unit I didn't do a true side by side comparison...so I corrected that and I think it is as good as my 3.7 box mod so that's good. I couldn't tell you about 6v as I got this for a 3.7 lr unit.
Threads- Threads? Hey threads are a big deal on a mod if they are not correctly threaded your threading may fail before anything else...these screw on beautifully, silent no grinding just a nicely threaded unit. I am hoping the nickle plated brass and aluminum threading into each other will not cause a long term problem...but that should take a long time to show up.
Conclusion-
This ggtb looks good and works good on the one battery it works with...GGTB's are not however the most user friendly device, even if you get a battery that works with it (and I plan to try it out with an incoming aw 17670) some of the problems can only be corrected by modding your mod, that is installing magnets for the button or better springs for the bottom...I almost feel like I don't have a complete unit without trying it out fully upgraded...on the other hand this is how it is sold so this is what I tested. If the AW 17670 works and slides in and out on its own...then this may be a good lr 3.7 device...if it doesn't, if I still have to unscrew the bottom cap and use a pencil to remove the battery, then this is just an over sized mod for 14500 or a 6v only device neither of which I need....
the GGTB
That was about 8 hours ago. Since then its has been an epic battle between me the Golden Greek and my 17670 batteries.... my advice is if your thinking of using this as a unit for your cheap ultrafire 17670 for all day 3.7 vaping...don't. It literally ate the tape off of one of my batteries...and before some one goes off and blames china...as someone is going to do, yes china has variance in width of its batteries but KNOWING that why would you build a unit that didn't compensate for such variance. There are a few threads on ecf of people saying they had some very tight fits with ultrafire 17670's and the ggtb...but there is at least one thread of someone showing the unit holding such a battery and there is an Australian ggtb retailer who actually sells the ultrafires for the unit. After it ate the protective tape off of one of my batteries with its threading nothing short of a hammer and a plastic insert (to hit with the hammer) managed to unjam that battery.
The only reason I know this thing even works is because I took the 14500's out of my crap box (thank you madvapes) and after managing to disassemble the "telescopic battery" insert I got some vapor....great I got an over priced over sized 14500 battery holder. I know this isn't the only mod that does this, fits only one brand of battery, the Icon from puresmoker acts the same way but at least they clearly tell you that protected trustfire 14500 will not fit in their unit...no such warning on any ggtb site that I have seen, again far from a warning one site actually lists the battery as compatible.
grrr
Kobold:0
GGTB:1
So...There I was one downed battery (I aint trusting a li-ion thats been hammered on and de-taped) one shiny GG and one 14500 that is mocking me for ever thinking I could get a higher mah battery. But I have one more 17670....and damn it I am not going down without a fight.
So I huff
and I puff....and I gently prod and push until the 17670 is fully inserted..and YES this one looks good...so I screw on the bottom and top caps...reinstall the button...push the button and NOTHING!
What? So I unscrew the bottom and tops caps take the button back off and look inside...yes yes I see the problem the battery is to large to be pushed around by the spring (which I hear should be replaced with a copper spring for better performance) so the top part isn't touching metal...well ok so I put a pencil up the back of the ggtb to push the battery up then partially screw on the top cap and then screw on the bottom cap all the way...reinstall the button (which I hear should be replaced with magnets for better performance) and then finish screwing on the top cap all the way down...and then I push the button...and ....nothing...wait wait..one second after pushing the button down I hear a sizzle
Kobold:1 GGTB:1
Ok so now that I have a functioning 3.7 17670 device how do I rate it....this is a review after all
well its ok...its actually not bad
Form: Its shiny...looks good, I got the nickle plated version and it does attract finger prints but that is to be expected. Its a bit big but it has a nice heft to it.
Function
Don't think for an instance your guaranteed to be able to use the nice affordable ultrafires 17670 1800mah batteries....I hear the far more expensive AW batteries fit like a glove...I wouldn't know I neither have AW 17670 batteries or gloves. The ultrafire that fits has to be pushed out with a pencil inserted from the bottom of the mod...its a headache to be sure.
Button- My button feels like its grinding on something when I push it down...a jarring sandpaper quality that I will have to disassemble later and see if its dirty..I hope this isn't something that only magnets will fix...but I am testing it out as I got it and that is how I got it out of the mailbox. It also tends to come off when I go to lock the button...not a big deal I just screw it back down. There is also a strange delay from the time I push the button till it actually fires...its not a misfire..it seems to eventually fire every time...its just a delayed fire.
I do like the locking option though.
Its 901 native, I hear stories of a 510 ggtb but so far if you want to vape 510 you use an adapter...I have plenty of adapters and I can say that the ones from goodprophets work wonderfully on it. I also tried a kr808 cartomizer on it and that worked well (as you would expect but sometimes they don't)
vapor- ..I was so thrilled to hear a working unit I didn't do a true side by side comparison...so I corrected that and I think it is as good as my 3.7 box mod so that's good. I couldn't tell you about 6v as I got this for a 3.7 lr unit.
Threads- Threads? Hey threads are a big deal on a mod if they are not correctly threaded your threading may fail before anything else...these screw on beautifully, silent no grinding just a nicely threaded unit. I am hoping the nickle plated brass and aluminum threading into each other will not cause a long term problem...but that should take a long time to show up.
Conclusion-
This ggtb looks good and works good on the one battery it works with...GGTB's are not however the most user friendly device, even if you get a battery that works with it (and I plan to try it out with an incoming aw 17670) some of the problems can only be corrected by modding your mod, that is installing magnets for the button or better springs for the bottom...I almost feel like I don't have a complete unit without trying it out fully upgraded...on the other hand this is how it is sold so this is what I tested. If the AW 17670 works and slides in and out on its own...then this may be a good lr 3.7 device...if it doesn't, if I still have to unscrew the bottom cap and use a pencil to remove the battery, then this is just an over sized mod for 14500 or a 6v only device neither of which I need....
