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Will ask again though, Which O-Ring was it?
The reason I ask is that I completely took mine apart and none of the O-Rings had that problem.
And like Tim, I too am done with this. you believe as you will about the GG. I however, will continue using mine as a smoke bomb and also plan on buying any other future models he puts out.
The reason I ask is that I completely took mine apart and none of the O-Rings had that problem.
And like Tim, I too am done with this. you believe as you will about the GG. I however, will continue using mine as a smoke bomb and also plan on buying any other future models he puts out.
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Lol, I take it you meen who said it is made from 7075 Aluminum Alloy?
Look here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/79463-initial-thoughts-ggts-just-out-wrapper-2.html#post1191605
7075 This is one of the highest strength aluminum alloys available. Its strength-to weight ratio is excellent and it is ideally used for highly stressed parts. It may be formed in the annealed condition and subsequently heat treated. Spot or flash welding can be used, although arc and gas welding are not recommended. It is available in the clad (“Alclad”) form to improve the corrosion resistance with the over-all high strength being only moderately affected. Applications: Used where highest strength is needed.
Taken from: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/mepages/aluminfo.php
If that i not what you meant then.....
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I think like many others you are confused with the last model that was a beautifully machined device. What I was referring to is the 'My Friend' version which is the one the OP was talking about. Your link refers to an old thread from March and the last batch produced which were advertised as 7075 at the time. Imeo has never referred to this new one as 7075, but only as a new alloy. Wonder what that may be?
O-rings?
wow.
Anyway...
I just got my GGTS-2/AFS and it freaking rocks!
I have two 2009 GGTS's (one is all aluminum). My aluminum 09 model is almost exactly the same weight, I suspect the '10 model may be a bit lighter since well... no brass end cap or brass plunger.
I spent the day vaping it without the AVS and it is a solid performer. It doesn't feel cheap and certainly doesn't look cheap either.
Button worked flawlessly out of the box (though I DID check it before using it).
No rattles whatsoever once it's assembled.
I started using the AVS about two hours ago, no leaking, no flooding, and vaping like a monster
This is the first time I've tried an autofeeder and I'm well... to be honest... crazy-amazed by it.
I'm worried I'm going to vape myself into a nicotine coma
wow.
Anyway...
I just got my GGTS-2/AFS and it freaking rocks!
I have two 2009 GGTS's (one is all aluminum). My aluminum 09 model is almost exactly the same weight, I suspect the '10 model may be a bit lighter since well... no brass end cap or brass plunger.
I spent the day vaping it without the AVS and it is a solid performer. It doesn't feel cheap and certainly doesn't look cheap either.
Button worked flawlessly out of the box (though I DID check it before using it).
No rattles whatsoever once it's assembled.
I started using the AVS about two hours ago, no leaking, no flooding, and vaping like a monster
This is the first time I've tried an autofeeder and I'm well... to be honest... crazy-amazed by it.
I'm worried I'm going to vape myself into a nicotine coma
Tokes,
As has been stated by others, many customers wanted a lighter unit, so less brass was used in the new model, therfore less weight.
7075 aluminium is not flimsy.
Since this was a borrowed unit, it's unfair to slam the switch screwing off as they ship loose.
Celotape to hold it together?......c'mon mate this is a huge exaggeration!
GG ancient histroy?...the GG's creator is one of the very few modders who listens to customers concerns to make the product better..........hand made, no fabrication moulds means improvements can be made immediately on the next batch...this sounds like the future to me.
I own both old & new units and have seen NO drop in quality.
With all that has happened recently one has to wonder what your TRUE motive is??
As has been stated by others, many customers wanted a lighter unit, so less brass was used in the new model, therfore less weight.
7075 aluminium is not flimsy.
Since this was a borrowed unit, it's unfair to slam the switch screwing off as they ship loose.
Celotape to hold it together?......c'mon mate this is a huge exaggeration!
GG ancient histroy?...the GG's creator is one of the very few modders who listens to customers concerns to make the product better..........hand made, no fabrication moulds means improvements can be made immediately on the next batch...this sounds like the future to me.
I own both old & new units and have seen NO drop in quality.
With all that has happened recently one has to wonder what your TRUE motive is??
Yaks:
The new unit is not made of 7075 Aluminum.
There is no heads up given by the manufacturer that the switch ships loose, but you are correct.
Sellotape was a joke. Really, the only bit that could fall off is the switch and we've covered that.
Are you aware that the AFS and AVS are die cast? not that it really makes a difference.
but it does mean that there are certainly some fabrication molds.
Holding the two units, I felt with my hands that the "my friend" unit was of an inferior quality. I thought that the overall workmanship was not on par. This is my OPINION, certainly not fact. I don't have magic, "quality sensing hands". I have since examined the unit again and came to the same conclusion.
As for my TRUE motive.
I was a GG fan. I reviewed the unit as soon as I could. I was surprised that I didn't like it. Up until I saw and used one, I wanted one bad! I posted a review with my findings. That is the end of the story. What's so unusual about posting a review?
The new unit is not made of 7075 Aluminum.
There is no heads up given by the manufacturer that the switch ships loose, but you are correct.
Sellotape was a joke. Really, the only bit that could fall off is the switch and we've covered that.
Are you aware that the AFS and AVS are die cast? not that it really makes a difference.
but it does mean that there are certainly some fabrication molds.
Holding the two units, I felt with my hands that the "my friend" unit was of an inferior quality. I thought that the overall workmanship was not on par. This is my OPINION, certainly not fact. I don't have magic, "quality sensing hands". I have since examined the unit again and came to the same conclusion.
As for my TRUE motive.
I was a GG fan. I reviewed the unit as soon as I could. I was surprised that I didn't like it. Up until I saw and used one, I wanted one bad! I posted a review with my findings. That is the end of the story. What's so unusual about posting a review?
I think the Oh no thread might indeed say it all. I can't believe why folks are defending the quality of the workmanship.
For some time now, outside of the usual GG owners, new owners are dis-appointed. This IMHO speaks volume. I admire the loyalty of Imeo's followers, but at the same time have to question their credibility, as his followers question the credibility of newer owners/reviewers.
For some time now, outside of the usual GG owners, new owners are dis-appointed. This IMHO speaks volume. I admire the loyalty of Imeo's followers, but at the same time have to question their credibility, as his followers question the credibility of newer owners/reviewers.
Some GGTS users - including me - asked Imeo to make a GGTS with an aluminum that doesn't need cleaning so often. And he created it. I don't know if this alloy is called "7075" anymore or "666" or "Bob". If it is strong, conductive, light and scratch resistant I don't care for its name.
We also asked a full-aluminum GGTS. He wouldn't do it because of possible threading problems. Someday he posted that he found a way to solve this problem by changing the threads in some way. Now, for me it is a step forward. It can rattle all it wants without batteries (I usually use it with batteries ) and if it rattles with batteries I can screw it a little more.
Switch unscrews and falls... Yes, if you don't screw something properly, it eventually unscrews. It happened a couple of times with my 2009 model also after cleaning. GGTS is not an ego (press button, works, don't press button, does not work), it needs a more "advanced" user that understands some things (hey, it's loose, let's screw it).
"Not great looking orings"... Well, from what I read, Imeo stopped using the old "perfect-looking" orings after he found a small factory that makes food grade orings for user safety. Now, my guess is that this factory might not have all the expensive equipment to cut orings perfectly. But I really don't care if a - liquid touching - oring looks uglier if it's safer, really. Make it pink with blue elephants if you like... It doesn't even see the light of day when using GGTS!
The engraving... Well, I agree on that, I prefer the old - discreet - engraving. But it is a matter of personal preference, some will like it some will not.
We also asked a full-aluminum GGTS. He wouldn't do it because of possible threading problems. Someday he posted that he found a way to solve this problem by changing the threads in some way. Now, for me it is a step forward. It can rattle all it wants without batteries (I usually use it with batteries
) and if it rattles with batteries I can screw it a little more. Switch unscrews and falls... Yes, if you don't screw something properly, it eventually unscrews. It happened a couple of times with my 2009 model also after cleaning. GGTS is not an ego (press button, works, don't press button, does not work), it needs a more "advanced" user that understands some things (hey, it's loose, let's screw it).
"Not great looking orings"... Well, from what I read, Imeo stopped using the old "perfect-looking" orings after he found a small factory that makes food grade orings for user safety. Now, my guess is that this factory might not have all the expensive equipment to cut orings perfectly. But I really don't care if a - liquid touching - oring looks uglier if it's safer, really. Make it pink with blue elephants if you like... It doesn't even see the light of day when using GGTS!
The engraving... Well, I agree on that, I prefer the old - discreet - engraving. But it is a matter of personal preference, some will like it some will not.
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I'm a new user and the devices I have work flawlessly. Granted, they are not beginner's ecigs and even intermediate users would have difficulty figuring out the AVS (which is why I waited until the 3rd version). Every AFS / AVS unit sold comes with the understanding (written warnings in the sales descriptions) that these are advanced units and you will need to learn how to use it.
But, if you take the time to spend learn how to use them... it's worth it.
I'll eventually post my own review, but I never review items that I haven't used for a full 30-days (unless it's so aweful that I sent it back).
So far, I woke up today and haven't had to "fiddle" with my 2010 GGTS/AVS. No leaking overnight and it hits like crazy from the tank I filled yesterday.
As far a feeling cheaper, it's almost the exact same weight of my Aluminum version of the GGTS, so that seems like a complete non-issue. Light is good, that's why I bought the aluminum 2009 GGTS.
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Jpegs at the molecular level!
anim8r, I see you are a scientist my friend!
As you well know, Quantum Physics, in particular, particle theory, tells us that the observed and the observer are inextricably linked. In short, what we SEE is determined by what we are LOOKING FOR.
I understand your comment about the molecular level was a facetious joke ( which was v funny btw) But seriously, please post some jpegs of your own showing how beautifully crafted your new GG products are. I'd love to see things from your point of view too.
anim8r, I see you are a scientist my friend!
As you well know, Quantum Physics, in particular, particle theory, tells us that the observed and the observer are inextricably linked. In short, what we SEE is determined by what we are LOOKING FOR.
I understand your comment about the molecular level was a facetious joke ( which was v funny btw) But seriously, please post some jpegs of your own showing how beautifully crafted your new GG products are. I'd love to see things from your point of view too.
Anim8r, Regarding you feeling angry dude
You’re angry because the evidence I’ve presented doesn't fit with your perspective.
Here’s some strategies to get rid of the anger.
1- Discredit the messenger.
Assume, He can’t work or understand his GG.
Believe He’s being pedantic and overly picky.
Conclude that He has an axe to grind.
If you can convince yourself of any of the above, you’ll instantly feel better. To cement the change find others who share your view and validate each other. If you start to feel an endorphin rush, you’ve succeeded.
2- Discredit the message
Interpret it as trivial and of no consequence.
Find holes or inconsistencies and focus on them.
Zero in on any factual errors you can find no matter how small.
To cement change, see above.
3- Change perspective
Try to realize that its only a PV Review and the sun will still rise and set no matter what the findings.
Take your mind off it. Walk the dog, hug your significant other. Play a game with a small child.
As you try this you’ll no doubt find your mind wandering back to this thread. Just focus on the real life task you are engaging in and it will pass.
4- Change your point of view.
You don’t have to abandon your views, just shift and rework them a little taking into account the new evidence. Then you are in a new place, a place where your views and the new information can coexist with less conflict.
If you can do this, you’ll feel a little better. You probably won’t get the endorphin rush, but after a few hours have passed, you may experience the feeling that somehow you’ve come out the other side, a better person.
Howard Beale said it best in the 1976 movie “Network”
“This is not a psychotic breakdown; it's a cleansing moment of clarity.”
Good Luck Dude
Tokes
You’re angry because the evidence I’ve presented doesn't fit with your perspective.
Here’s some strategies to get rid of the anger.
1- Discredit the messenger.
Assume, He can’t work or understand his GG.
Believe He’s being pedantic and overly picky.
Conclude that He has an axe to grind.
If you can convince yourself of any of the above, you’ll instantly feel better. To cement the change find others who share your view and validate each other. If you start to feel an endorphin rush, you’ve succeeded.
2- Discredit the message
Interpret it as trivial and of no consequence.
Find holes or inconsistencies and focus on them.
Zero in on any factual errors you can find no matter how small.
To cement change, see above.
3- Change perspective
Try to realize that its only a PV Review and the sun will still rise and set no matter what the findings.
Take your mind off it. Walk the dog, hug your significant other. Play a game with a small child.
As you try this you’ll no doubt find your mind wandering back to this thread. Just focus on the real life task you are engaging in and it will pass.
4- Change your point of view.
You don’t have to abandon your views, just shift and rework them a little taking into account the new evidence. Then you are in a new place, a place where your views and the new information can coexist with less conflict.
If you can do this, you’ll feel a little better. You probably won’t get the endorphin rush, but after a few hours have passed, you may experience the feeling that somehow you’ve come out the other side, a better person.
Howard Beale said it best in the 1976 movie “Network”
“This is not a psychotic breakdown; it's a cleansing moment of clarity.”
Good Luck Dude
Tokes
Does your mom know you're using her computer? I think the GGTS is the Sheet, and I'm looking forward to it's future. Yes I own both models. I always said if you want to talked out of something look it up on a forum, where they always make mountains out of molehills.
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