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I give chopper's tank a 5...but a 0 for me because I ruined it when I tried to get all fancy and pulled the filler out of the cartridge thinking it would be awesome, but it was NOT :)


Now now kitty how many times have you been told.If you can't play nice with your toy's then you will have to put them away.Lol just messing with you,how can I help you to fix the problem my dear?.
 

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This is OT but I feel compelled to share this info with my kin here. Living in Phoenix, I was lucky enough to test a new juice product that will change the way I vape and many others too. It's Whole Tobacco Alkaloid juice that will start being in the market next month. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eliquid-will-soon-available-aroma-ejuice.html

Here's my report on it...
"All I can say is... WOW! The flavor is very subtle and not much to talk about, I may land up mixing it with other juice and I think many will do that. Firstly, the mouth taste is mild at first, but the throat sensation is amazing. We call it throat hit, but regular juice is mostly throat kick, hitting the throat with a burn that can get too much after a while and some peeps don't like it all. Some juices have something like pepper in it too kick more.

WTA gives a fuller throat sensation, activating sensors in a different part of the throat and very much like dragging on a cig. This doesn't replace that sensation, it mimics it. Then you get that light-headed feeling, like when you haven't had a smoke for a while, or hit your first morning smoke. It's quite powerful. The most amazing thing is; with regular vaping you never really get satisfied, even if you overnic, you just get sweaty and a little piqued, but not satisfied. After my first 5 hits I had to put the stuff down, I was good. In fact I went and got some pizza that was being served and ate before I vaped again. You actually get the cig-full feeling.Then the other thing about it is when you do put it down, you feel calmer, very much like a cig calms you down. Could actually vape it before sleeping, in fact one of the group who's been trying out for longer says it actually helps her to go to sleep.

No question this can revolutionize vaping. Not sure if I'd like to vape it straight a few times a day in between regular vaping, mix it a little with a regular juice when I do that, or just add a little bit to all my juice. Will have to feel my way with that.

The downside is..it's VERY pricey to make. Don't know how the price will be if it takes off, because to make large quantities will take a lot of up front cost for major equipment, but the supplies used in the extraction process are mucho expensive.I do think a ml a day will be enough for the average vapor to get the satisfaction but someone looking to get the exact experience of a 2 pak a day habit will be paying a lot for that.

If I had this stuff when I first started vaping...two things. First it would have made giving up smoking even easier. Second, I could well have developed a totally different style of vaping, not getting so into the flavors and vaping constantly, but just settling on one good tobacco flavor, mixing in the WTA and vaping as many times a day as I used to smoke. Have to see which way I go now, but to some it up, the stuff is AMAZING!”
 

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This is OT but I feel compelled to share this info with my kin here. Living in Phoenix, I was lucky enough to test a new juice product that will change the way I vape and many others too. It's Whole Tobacco Alkaloid juice that will start being in the market next month. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eliquid-will-soon-available-aroma-ejuice.html

Here's my report on it...
"All I can say is... WOW! The flavor is very subtle and not much to talk about, I may land up mixing it with other juice and I think many will do that. Firstly, the mouth taste is mild at first, but the throat sensation is amazing. We call it throat hit, but regular juice is mostly throat kick, hitting the throat with a burn that can get too much after a while and some peeps don't like it all. Some juices have something like pepper in it too kick more.

WTA gives a fuller throat sensation, activating sensors in a different part of the throat and very much like dragging on a cig. This doesn't replace that sensation, it mimics it. Then you get that light-headed feeling, like when you haven't had a smoke for a while, or hit your first morning smoke. It's quite powerful. The most amazing thing is; with regular vaping you never really get satisfied, even if you overnic, you just get sweaty and a little piqued, but not satisfied. After my first 5 hits I had to put the stuff down, I was good. In fact I went and got some pizza that was being served and ate before I vaped again. You actually get the cig-full feeling.Then the other thing about it is when you do put it down, you feel calmer, very much like a cig calms you down. Could actually vape it before sleeping, in fact one of the group who's been trying out for longer says it actually helps her to go to sleep.

No question this can revolutionize vaping. Not sure if I'd like to vape it straight a few times a day in between regular vaping, mix it a little with a regular juice when I do that, or just add a little bit to all my juice. Will have to feel my way with that.

The downside is..it's VERY pricey to make. Don't know how the price will be if it takes off, because to make large quantities will take a lot of up front cost for major equipment, but the supplies used in the extraction process are mucho expensive.I do think a ml a day will be enough for the average vapor to get the satisfaction but someone looking to get the exact experience of a 2 pak a day habit will be paying a lot for that.

If I had this stuff when I first started vaping...two things. First it would have made giving up smoking even easier. Second, I could well have developed a totally different style of vaping, not getting so into the flavors and vaping constantly, but just settling on one good tobacco flavor, mixing in the WTA and vaping as many times a day as I used to smoke. Have to see which way I go now, but to some it up, the stuff is AMAZING!”

Now this is a very very Novel idea indeed, it does sound to me though to have the makings of being directly derived from Tobacco itself, which could ultimately cause some health issues, don't quote me on that as I am not a doctor but with the reading I have done it sounds like it may contain the carcenogens that we gave up smoking analogs to avoid if it is directly derived from tobacco.

On the plus side though it also sounds like a very very useful tool if it can be used in small quantities in order to "Enchance" other e-liquids as an additive that would satisfy a person more hence they would be vaping less.




That is very interesting Ceegary. I will definately try some but I will be dripping it at that price. If it satisfies the nic craving for an hour or so between vapes it would come in handy. I don't know what I would do all day if I wasn't chain vaping though. lol

I agree, I would be lost without my chainvaping :D:D:D But then again it would be very financially beneficial to go a couple hours between vapes for sure.


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If you're vaping juice with nicotine, it IS derived from tobacco. That's the reason why the FDA is able to classify it as a tobacco product. While nicotine, and other derivative alkaloids from tobacco do have some negative characteristics, most of the research I've read on it equates it to the negative effects from coffee. The real serious health effects from tobacco is from the by-products of burning it. The major difference in WTA is the process does not detroy the other alkaloids that are being currently used to extract the nicotine from the tobacco.

I'm going to speak for most of us here. When we started vaping we thought we'd find a juice that tasted and performed just like the cig we used, and instead of smoking X times a day, we'd vape this instead. Well, we found that we couldn't replicate the flavor and in short time realized we didn't want to because so many juices tasted better. However, we also found that though we enjoy vaping, it doesn't satisfy like a cig. We don't take 10 or 12 hits and put our PV down for an hour or two. X number of hits a day, became Xponential number of hits a day, right? The reason for that is; smoking does not only deliver nicotine but the other alkaloids as well which contribute to the overall physiological effects. With cigs you fairly quickly reach a satiation point, where you put it out and aren't ready to smoke another for a period, (except for chronic chain-smokers). Vaping basically never does that.

So most of us become fairly chronic chain vapers, we seem to grow this appendage in our mouths, (especially evident to non-vaping spouses). I had read most of the material of WTA juice a while back and was hoping..A) It did what was claimed. B) Someone would produce it and make it available.

The first time I tried it, I knew in a few minutes that both wishes were being fulfilled.

As to usage, I'm still not sure. It will probably be released initially in an almost flavorless form. Almost, because some tobacco flavor comes through in the extraction process. It can be vaped as such, it's pretty strong. I literally had to put it down after my first 5 hits of doing it straight. It mixes very well with juice, so I think the answer to flavor is you'll use it with whatever flavor you like. If I'd have found this when I first quit smoking, I'd probably have just wanted to mix it to cig equivalent level and vape as many times a day as I used to smoke. (My wife still wishes I'd do that). While it's pricy, bear in mind how much we used to spend on cigs and you'll see you won't achieve much savings, but it should about par out with much better experience and health benefits.

I'm thinking now, (but that could change) that I'll be using it, probably in about 50/50 mix 5 or 6 times a day, unless I'm going to be in a situation where I'll be restricted from free vaping, then it would be more. I'll probably dedicate an atty to it, so it stays primed and I don't waste any. I'm figuring 3 or 4 drops will be enough for each session, maybe even less. But I will need to camp with it longer before I know for sure. I do know that it will probably be in my juice arsenal from now on.

Now this is a very very Novel idea indeed, it does sound to me though to have the makings of being directly derived from Tobacco itself, which could ultimately cause some health issues, don't quote me on that as I am not a doctor but with the reading I have done it sounds like it may contain the carcenogens that we gave up smoking analogs to avoid if it is directly derived from tobacco.

On the plus side though it also sounds like a very very useful tool if it can be used in small quantities in order to "Enchance" other e-liquids as an additive that would satisfy a person more hence they would be vaping less.






I agree, I would be lost without my chainvaping :D:D:D But then again it would be very financially beneficial to go a couple hours between vapes for sure.


Nate aka Darth Vapor
 
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If you're vaping juice with nicotine, it IS derived from tobacco. That's the reason why the FDA is able to classify it as a tobacco product. While nicotine, and other derivative alkaloids from tobacco do have some negative characteristics, most of the research I've read on it equates it to the negative effects from coffee. The real serious health effects from tobacco is from the by-products of burning it. The major difference in WTA is the process does not detroy the other alkaloids that are being currently used to extract the nicotine from the tobacco.

I'm going to speak for most of us here. When we started vaping we thought we'd find a juice that tasted and performed just like the cig we used, and instead of smoking X times a day, we'd vape this instead. Well, we found that we couldn't replicate the flavor and in short time realized we didn't want to because so many juices tasted better. However, we also found that though we enjoy vaping, it doesn't satisfy like a cig. We don't take 10 or 12 hits and put our PV down for an hour or two. X number of hits a day, became Xponential number of hits a day, right? The reason for that is; smoking does not only deliver nicotine but the other alkaloids as well which contribute to the overall physiological effects. With cigs you fairly quickly reach a satiation point, where you put it out and aren't ready to smoke another for a period, (except for chronic chain-smokers). Vaping basically never does that.

So most of us become fairly chronic chain vapers, we seem to grow this appendage in our mouths, (escpecially evident to non-vaping spouses). I had read most of the material of WTA juice a while back and was hoping..A) It did what was claimed. B) Someone would produce it and make it available.

The first time I tried it, I knew in a few minutes that both wishes were being fulfilled.

As to usage, I'm still not sure. It will probably be released initially in an almost flavorless form. Almost, because some tobacco flavor comes through in the extraction process. It can be vaped as such, it's pretty strong. I literally had to put it down after my first 5 hits of doing it straight. It mixes very well with juice, so I think the answer to flavor is you'll use it with whatever flavor you like. If I'd have found this when I first quit smoking, I'd probably have just wanted to mix it to cig equivalent level and vape as many times a day as I used to smoke. (My wife still wishes I'd do that). While it's pricy, bear in mind how much we used to spend on cigs and you'll see you want achieve savings, but it should about par out with much better experience and health benefits.

I'm thinking now, (but that could change) that I'll be using it, probably in about 50/50 mix 5 or 6 times a day, unless I'm going to be in a situation where I'll be restricted from free vaping, then it would be more. I'll probably dedicate an atty to it, so it stays primed and I don't waste any. I'm figuring 3 or 4 drops will be enough for each session, maybe even less. But I will need to camp with it longer before I know for sure. I do know that it will probably be in my juice arsenal from now on.

Awesome discussion piece as always Ceegary, thank you very much for the highly informative write up. You sold me my Friend, I will definitely be giving this stuff a try as soon as it is available :D

Anything that will decrease how much I vape while still giving me the satisfaction of the flavors I have come to love will definitely be a plus because it should make those flavors last me a lot longer in the long run, and a merely a couple drops per session I could probably make 10 ml go a very long way.

Thank you again for sharing this with us and the incredible write up as well;
Sincerely;
Nate aka Darth Vapor
 

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I received my 125ml bottle of blackberry yesterday for only $24.99 (along with my working USB charger!) and the flavor is awesome right out of the bottle. Nice throat hit, but not too harsh. Nice warm vapor.

Thanks for the short review on his blackberry juice. He doesn't have a way yet on his site for people to rate things. I gave a short review on his French Toast (Great). I also ordered blackberry, so I'm looking forward to trying it now. Thanks!
 

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I'll give you 10.00 dollars for the answer Nate! lol

I really wish I could my Friend, however I simply must keep this one under wraps until the contest is decided. I am sworn to secrecy on this one my Friend.

I am off to rest as I am home sick today, my stomach is totally FUBAR'd today.

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Hello everyone! I want to introduce myself. I have been vaping since May 2010, first on a SmokeStik and then generic 4081. I wasn't intending to quit smoking - my husband and I were going to be married in a castle B&B that shut its doors at 11 pm and no smoking inside and we just wanted to get by, plus not smell of cigs around my family. Well, I haven't smoked since shortly after that and husband now only a cig or two a day.

I have been lurking on ECF for awhile and based on the Go-Go thread went ahead and made the switch. We love them! I felt I was pretty much set, though still tempted by good reviews of other PVs. Especially the tanks. So, when I read about Chopper's tank I knew I had to have one. I just found out that mine is shipping today and I can't wait! I will report back once I've fired it up.

I do have a few questions. I will soon be doing some cleaning and rebuilding of the carts based on Mohawkx's thread. I think the instructions are very clear, and I look forward to that. I have a few cartos that from the looks of them, can't imagine how the filler will be cleaned back to usable. I got some Fluval and blue foam in case I'll need to totally replace it. So -

1. The cartos in questions were ones I used with thicker or dark juice - Boba's Bounty, Gorilla Juice, Vaperite tobacco, and Vapor Station Cocoa (which, by the way, tastes very similar to Boba's to me). Is there a trick, other than diluting with water, to make those juices easier on the go-carts? I remember someone saying he used less filler in cartos for VG juices, but I can't find that post anymore.

2. I have two cartos that were perfect for one or two uses and then just stopped - refuse to fire. I tapped down the filler a bit to make sure it was touching the bottom, I pulled up on the center post of the cart in case it wasn't making contact with the battery, but nothing worked. Anyone have this happen?

3. With the Chopper tank, MrsDash wrote that after 8 days straight use the carto didn't want to fire anymore. Could this be solved by cleaning and rebuilding or would it be the atomizer that gave out?

I want to thank everyone for all the helpful information. This really is a great forum!!!
 

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I have had a carto that refused to fire...I pulled the center post up and It fired fine I raised it up about 1mm
I would also like to know how people get longer usage when using thicker, dark niquids... I have been using the tank on Copper Creek house blend and after 3 refills my carto still fires, but the draw,taste, vape production have all dimminished..It needs a good cleaning I'll report back after using Mohawkx method
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Hello everyone! I want to introduce myself. I have been vaping since May 2010, first on a SmokeStik and then generic 4081. I wasn't intending to quit smoking - my husband and I were going to be married in a castle B&B that shut its doors at 11 pm and no smoking inside and we just wanted to get by, plus not smell of cigs around my family. Well, I haven't smoked since shortly after that and husband now only a cig or two a day.

I have been lurking on ECF for awhile and based on the Go-Go thread went ahead and made the switch. We love them! I felt I was pretty much set, though still tempted by good reviews of other PVs. Especially the tanks. So, when I read about Chopper's tank I knew I had to have one. I just found out that mine is shipping today and I can't wait! I will report back once I've fired it up.

I do have a few questions. I will soon be doing some cleaning and rebuilding of the carts based on Mohawkx's thread. I think the instructions are very clear, and I look forward to that. I have a few cartos that from the looks of them, can't imagine how the filler will be cleaned back to usable. I got some Fluval and blue foam in case I'll need to totally replace it. So -

1. The cartos in questions were ones I used with thicker or dark juice - Boba's Bounty, Gorilla Juice, Vaperite tobacco, and Vapor Station Cocoa (which, by the way, tastes very similar to Boba's to me). Is there a trick, other than diluting with water, to make those juices easier on the go-carts? I remember someone saying he used less filler in cartos for VG juices, but I can't find that post anymore.

2. I have two cartos that were perfect for one or two uses and then just stopped - refuse to fire. I tapped down the filler a bit to make sure it was touching the bottom, I pulled up on the center post of the cart in case it wasn't making contact with the battery, but nothing worked. Anyone have this happen?

3. With the Chopper tank, MrsDash wrote that after 8 days straight use the carto didn't want to fire anymore. Could this be solved by cleaning and rebuilding or would it be the atomizer that gave out?

I want to thank everyone for all the helpful information. This really is a great forum!!!

Why thank you from all of us for the compliments and a very warm welcome to you Alara.

As far as the cleaning of the cartos goes, yes Mohawkx Method has thus far been the supreme choice for cleaning methods of the Go Carts.

For the ones that are not firing at all, I have run into this before and about 50% of the time it is just in need of a good cleaning and the other 50% of the time it is the fact that the carto has just died. That is to be expected however since these are actually designed to be a use and toss item. We are very fortunate however that more often than not we do get a lot of uses out of these cartomizers. So it is bound to happen that some of them are not going to last as long as others.

The VG and PG thing, I am not as familiar as others are on this issue as I usually always use either 80/20 PG/VG or 70/30 PG/VG mixes and they always perform outstanding in my Go Carts and all of my other devices. So I guess I just don't want to fix it if it aint broke LOL Therefore I will let the original poster comment on the less filler method for VG juices.


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I have had a carto that refused to fire...I pulled the center post up and It fired fine I raised it up about 1mm
I would also like to know how people get longer usage when using thicker, dark niquids... I have been using the tank on Copper Creek house blend and after 3 refills my carto still fires, but the draw,taste, vape production have all dimminished..It needs a good cleaning I'll report back after using Mohawkx method
-Up

Hi Up :D Glad to hear you are going to try out Mohawkx method for cleaning. It does work wonders for sure and now that I have commandeered some suitable coffee straws I am going to be trying this this weekend sometime once I get to feeling a little better.

Happy Vaping;
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