Going Slim (Need advice on 510 threaded E-cigs that resemble analogs)

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You could try the auto kit at liberty flights. It's like 39.99 with the 20% discount.
It includes two batts, 5 cartos and the Charging Case PCC

I've been using it for a week and it's great.

They have white colors and the cartomizers are dark orange/brown like cigarette filters.
The only problem is the LED is white D:

I tried the volt kit; which a lot of people do like, and didn't really enjoy the kit at all. I got the kit from smokeless image. The white batteries got dirty quick. I put one of the white batteries in the pocket of my jeans and it got tinted blue! Now I only use stainless steel bats.

After that the batteries all failed on me, maybe due to a leak somehow. Even though I got the sealed auto batts and have had much experience with auto batts before that, the kit somehow died on me D:

Those auto batteries are not actually sealed, only resistent to a degree. Auto batteries fail at a MUCH higher rate than manual batteries.
 

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Ok here is what I heard back from customer support at smokeless image.....


"Michael,
The auto batteries should work with most of the standard adapters since they will have a hole in them to allow the airflow so when you inhale it will activate the battery. I have not personally tried many adapters but I do have a couple 808 - 510 adapters. One which that does work and one that does not.
In the case of those two adapters the one that does not work is not making proper connection with either the battery or the cartomizer. The best adapters that I have seen are ones that are adjustable instead of having a static connection.
Many of the adjustable adapters that I have seen do not have that air hole in them but some do. It just depends on the application.
-Tom"

The question is where can I get adjustable adapter, and what do they even look like. If I cant find these I'll have to take my chances with the Madvapes one.
 

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Those auto batteries are not actually sealed, only resistent to a degree. Auto batteries fail at a MUCH higher rate than manual batteries.

I know they aren't fully sealed, but some reviewers have said that you can drip with them, which is not the case.

In my experience, the problems related to auto batts is easily avoided.
Just don't drip in the carto or atomizer; Fill up the carto or atomizer without the battery attached.

My joye 510 has been going strong for almost 8 months.
 
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Ok here is what I heard back from customer support at smokeless image.....




The question is where can I get adjustable adapter, and what do they even look like. If I cant find these I'll have to take my chances with the Madvapes one.

I used the adapter they have at liberty-flights and it worked.
 

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I know they aren't fully sealed, but some reviewers have said that you can drip with them, which is not the case.

In my experience, the problems related to auto batts is easily avoided.
Just don't drip in the carto or atomizer; Fill up the carto or atomizer without the battery attached.

My joye 510 has been going strong for almost 8 months.

What a hassle. Definitely not worth the trouble. I think there are several good reasons why the majority use manual batteries.
 

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I know you said you want a slim ecig, but I would consider getting something like a kGo mini instead. I think you'd be much happier with it over a slim ecig. If you got a slim XL battery like you were talking about, they still have short battery life and you wouldn't be able to use any of the cartos that you said you like and use bc their LRs and DCs. Plus an XL slim battery really isn't that small. Yeah their fairly skinny, but their also quite long. A 650mah kGo battery really isn't any bigger than an XL slim battery. A 650mah kGo battery is actually shorter than an XL slim battery, but it is alittle fatter. So really their very similar in size, just a different shape.
A mini kGo battery will also be alot better than a slim ecig. The battery will last about twice as long compared to an XL slim ecig (650mah vs 320mah) and you'd be able to use the LR and DC cartos that you use on your RS on a kGo mini. Plus the kGo mini battery is a true 3.7V PV just like the regular kGo is, so you'd get the same voltage as your RS.

Personally I'd much rather carry a shorter and slightly fatter PV when I'm out than carry one that's skinny and long. That's just me though.

Here's a link to the 650 mah kGo mini batteries from Sweet-vapes : KGO 650mah Batteries
 

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I know you said you want a slim ecig, but I would consider getting something like a kGo mini instead. I think you'd be much happier with it over a slim ecig. If you got a slim XL battery like you were talking about, they still have short battery life and you wouldn't be able to use any of the cartos that you said you like and use bc their LRs and DCs. Plus an XL slim battery really isn't that small. Yeah their fairly skinny, but their also quite long. A 650mah kGo battery really isn't any bigger than an XL slim battery. A 650mah kGo battery is actually shorter than an XL slim battery, but it is alittle fatter. So really their very similar in size, just a different shape.
A mini kGo battery will also be alot better than a slim ecig. The battery will last about twice as long compared to an XL slim ecig (650mah vs 320mah) and you'd be able to use the LR and DC cartos that you use on your RS on a kGo mini. Plus the kGo mini battery is a true 3.7V PV just like the regular kGo is, so you'd get the same voltage as your RS.

Personally I'd much rather carry a shorter and slightly fatter PV when I'm out than carry one that's skinny and long. That's just me though.

Here's a link to the 650 mah kGo mini batteries from Sweet-vapes : KGO 650mah Batteries

I wish I could see a size comparison picture between that mini kgo and a slim e-cig. It does look like a good alternative, but Id want the batteries to come in both auto and manual version because Im interested in having the option for both.

Some diehards don't like auto bats because you have less control over the atty. As for me Ive never owned one, but I have used them a couple times and really thought it simulated smoking more so than holding a button. That's why I have the interest in being able to choose either manual or auto. My plan is to get one of each for starters to see which one I like most.
 

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I'm surprise that no one mentioned the SD Keyring yet. I've had a couple of them and liked them.

I don't own one but I saw a pic of it last night, it looks freaking sweet, I think it's only 29 bucks. Its silver and not cig colored, but its tiny, ill see if I can't find a link and post it :) just checked it, and its a 300mah batt. Clouds of vapor has it, good people, great vendor. There are batts that seem to have more capacity, from what I've read above, been out of the loop on hardware for too long lol, I'm brushing up also hehe.

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Well yesterday I tried using my Halo G6's a Volt 808 all day while out an about. They are easy and portable, and I took 4 charged batts with me and 4 cartos and 4 juices to see if I could actually survive on slim ecigs for a day and not use my GLV or Provari mini.
Well to my surprise I did survive and the 808's were not bad at all. I do prefer manual 808's now since it gives a better vape. A Provari no, GLV no, but the 808's did the trick and kept me from being without a vape. They were light and very portable and less fiddling when on the go for me. Not bad for back ups :) bnrk
 

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lol too much of a hassle.
C'mon its not that hard!

I usually do it with my manual batteries too because I don't like over dripping; its gets all over the battery.

Also the "condom" method of filling cartos has you take off the cart anyways.

If you really didn't want to take the carto or atty, you don't have to.

Just make sure you only put a FEW drops along the filler of the cartos.


I think pushing a manual battery is a hassle in my opinion. I like the auto 510's because I can hold them in my mouth and vape. Plus I can hold it like a cig if I wanted to.
 
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Even with a 280 mAh battery, I believe the biggest mini you will find, for a light vaper you may get up to 4 hours but that's about it. Size really does matter in the battery world. A Kgo, which is only the size of a sharpie pen, will give you about 6 hours for a moderate vaper.

not ture they have a 510 kit that is 450Mah:

Super 510-T Kit, Black
 

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Most of the people I know who do what you are trying to do accomplish it by having a ton of stuff. A mini is still bigger then a cigarette. What you are talking about is called a super mini and you will be lucky to get an hour out of one. Also it will look jacked because those 510 carto's will be disproportionate to the battery which defeats the only purpose of using something that small. (hyper realism) You could try carrying around 3 or 4 510 mega's. That will get you through the day unless you are seriously abusing them. But there is no way any mini is going to hit like a big batt mod such as a rough stack. What you are asking for is more then the current tech has to offer IMO.
 

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Most of the people I know who do what you are trying to do accomplish it by having a ton of stuff. A mini is still bigger then a cigarette. What you are talking about is called a super mini and you will be lucky to get an hour out of one. Also it will look jacked because those 510 carto's will be disproportionate to the battery which defeats the only purpose of using something that small. (hyper realism) You could try carrying around 3 or 4 510 mega's. That will get you through the day unless you are seriously abusing them. But there is no way any mini is going to hit like a big batt mod such as a rough stack. What you are asking for is more then the current tech has to offer IMO.

I thought 510 cartos would be the same diameter as 808 batts. Unless of course they are the larger 510 cartos that bulge out above the threads to carry more liquid.
 
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This is a side by side size comparison of a Riva 650 with the cone and atomizer with drip tip, a Riva with no cone and a Boge 2.0 and drip tip, and a Riva 1100 with a cone and atomizer with drip tip. I think it is the identical size as Kgo, not sure. The Rivas were my first ecigs that I used in February., they still vape like champs with heavy everyday use. If I try to use dual coils, they die quickly within hours. Switching them around, I can get 2 days apiece before I need to charge them. USB 18650 battery power packs is the closest I can get to a PCC for them.

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This is a side by side size comparison of a Riva 650 with the cone and atomizer with drip tip, a Riva with no cone and a Boge 2.0 and drip tip, and a Riva 1100 with a cone and atomizer with drip tip. I think it is the identical size as Kgo, not sure. The Rivas were my first ecigs that I used in February., they still vape like champs with heavy everyday use. If I try to use dual coils, they die quickly within hours. Switching them around, I can get 2 days apiece before I need to charge them. USB 18650 battery power packs is the closest I can get to a PCC for them.

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I totally agree with what you said about the Riva. I love those batteries so much! I wish I could buy them again, but liberty-flights doesn't have them anymore D:

I had to end up throwing mine out because I've had it over a year and it was just in horrible shape. It still worked great, but it was so scratched and scuffed up! If I was smart I would have just fixed up the paint myself, or sanded it.
 

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I thought 510 cartos would be the same diameter as 808 batts. Unless of course they are the larger 510 cartos that bulge out above the threads to carry more liquid.
9mm on both counts. They are the same size. But neither of those devices are the size of a cigarette. Both are mini's. A super mini is the size of a cigarette. They exist with 510 threading. (That's what Blu sells) 401's, e-8's etc are super mini's. They are not the same as 510's or 808's. I find super mini's to look cool but also to be extremely impractical. I have my doubts that anyone is going to be able to go from using a maxi roughstack to a mini. A super mini? I'd be really surprised.
 

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not ture they have a 510 kit that is 450Mah:

Super 510-T Kit, Black

Depending on whether one is using an atomizer or cartomizer, plus drip tip, the length of that kit ranges between 7 and 1/2 to 9 and 1/2 inches in length!!! I would find it much easier to vape/keep in my pocket a sharpie pen sized Kgo than an almost "ruler" length sized 510-T.
 
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9mm on both counts. They are the same size. But neither of those devices are the size of a cigarette. Both are mini's. A super mini is the size of a cigarette. They exist with 510 threading. (That's what Blu sells) 401's, e-8's etc are super mini's. They are not the same as 510's or 808's. I find super mini's to look cool but also to be extremely impractical. I have my doubts that anyone is going to be able to go from using a maxi roughstack to a mini. A super mini? I'd be really surprised.

I got ya, I didn't realize the term difference their. I think when I said I wanted a cigarette sized e-cig I meant roughly speaking. At this point im thinking either a XL mini, or perhaps a kGo mini, or Riva.

One thing that keeps pulling me back to the Volt from smokeless image is the PCC they sell, the auto bats, and the battery passthroughs they sell as well...

Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | Volt X2 Battery Passthrough - Accessories

The battery passthroughs come in 650, 900 and 1300 mAh versions. Each slightly bigger than the next.


I'm thinking the 650 mah passthrough will make an assembled unit similar in size to a kgo or kgo mini.

My best plan as of now is to get the kit they sell that comes with the PCC, get two of their 320 mah xl bats, and then get a larger battery passthrough so I'm not completely wasting my investment if the mini bats and PCC just don't cut it.

If I did this Id probably also start using 2.5 ohm cartos on my Roughstack so I can switch the cartos between both devices Like I wanted.

This is one idea, but I realize I'll be losing performance either way with this step down in size from the RS. I just really want something portable and hands free for when Im out and about, the RS will still be my primary vaping device for home use.

Having the device look similar to a cigarette is just a novelty that I'm interested in for some reason. I guess I just think it's cool.
 
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