Going through 50+ ml of juice per day...

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Letitia

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Right next door to amazing, actually. I run it in rotation with a Double Barrel, and vape it in the evenings at home. I usually run through 25-30ml of juice at 20-30 watts before needing a battery change. Actually, both the Squid mods get excellent battery life. I'm pushing 20-25 ml through Blitzen (coiled dual) on a Double Barrel at home and about the same on my work mod which carries a Serpent SMM (single coil) on a single charge, and they load 18650's. It's rare to need to swap batteries more than every other week. The T21 does better of course as it loads 21-20700s.
I don't think the OP builds yet, any tank suggestion to get a chain vaper thru more miles before fill ups.
 

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I don't think the OP builds yet, any tank suggestion to get a chain vaper thru more miles before fill ups.
By me, I'm afraid. I've been rolling my own since mods were carved from stone using flint tools. I know from pre-fab coil tanks.
 

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I have a Tesla punk 220W (2x 18650), wisemec rx200 (2x21700), and recently got the iJoy maxo (4x 18650). I’m using Samsung 18650’s 2500mah in the maxo and killed them in about six hours. The rx200 lasts about 4 hours, and the Tesla lasts a little over 2.5 hrs.

I’d love a mod that plugs into a household outlet, like one that didn’t even have batteries and could run 100 Watts.

I must be a total chain vaper while driving my truck. I was bad off with the analog cigs, close to two packs a day. I must say though, I’m feeling so much better overall as a chain vaper vs. a chain smoker...

Your problem can be easily solved by buying tanks that do not require you to vape at 100 watt... you already have enough mods and batteries to last you the whole 14 hours of chain vaping... you could buy 4-5 Uwell Crown (original) tanks with 4ml capacity and as long as you put into them 1.2 ohm coils you will not use more than 16-20 ml of e-juice per day... those coils require only 15-20 watts so they will drain your batteries much slower... additional benefits is your windshield will not be obscured by huge clouds and you will not have to clean windows as often...

Huge single tank is not very practical... one or two can accidentally brake, coil can burn out and you will be left with nothing.... vaping all day the same flavor can be boring... if you have 4- 5 relatively large tanks on 3-4 mods you can have different flavor in each of them... filling the tank once a day during bathroom brake takes less than half minute... good thing original Uwell tanks are not expensive ($18) they cost less than 3 packs of Marlboro.... those tanks are very well made and rugged... if I was a truck driving I would buy ten of them... putting one on any mod takes less than half minute even without taking my eyes from the road ahead.
 

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I wouldn't recommend mtl tanks so much as getting a tank with better coil options and that comes with a bubble glass or tank extension.

IMHO mtl is the only sensible solution for chain vaping inside the car or truck... specially in cold weather.
 

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50-70ml/day, dang, you're not supposed to drink the stuff!


Sorry, couldn't resist and have no advice to offer other than using a device which doesn't use so much. That's 10-14 days' worth of eLiquid for me. I wonder if the obstruction to your vision from the clouds isn't as much or more of a safety hazard as is device prep while you're driving. I hope I don't share the road with you. Pull over, even if it is several times per "shift". Thank you.
 

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IMHO mtl is the only sensible solution for chain vaping inside the car or truck... specially in cold weather.
I am proof that mtl doesn't work for everyone. He seems happy enough with his gear, just looking to get better run time and less consumption. That suggests to me different coils rather than a different draw.
 

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Ok. I was just reading the specs on the wisemec rx200 and it has passthrough charging. What this means is you can still vape on it while charging the batteries using the usb port.

In a vehicle you can purchase usb charging units that plug into a cigarette lighter or purchase an outlet strip(from a truck stop) that plugs into the usb cigarette lighter that allows you to charge things that way. (will see if I can find a link for you)

I do a lot of traveling and I purchased an outlet strip several years ago and its still working fine. I plug a charger into the strip and can charge my batteries while I drive by using a regular charger that I would normally plug into a wall outlet. I consider this a bit safer than keeping the batteries in the mod itself and charging usb while vaping it.

Let me try to find a link for you.

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I’m using a 4 bay charger and an inverter in my truck as you recommend. What I’m trying to avoid is filling tanks and swapping batteries as I’m driving. Most people don’t realize the time constraints as a professional driver however. We work usually 14 hours a day and in order to stay on schedule, and avoid stopping as much as possible. I routinely drive for 5-8 hour stretches with out a restroom break. It’s a very demanding job actually. The way some people behave on the roadways makes it stressful as well. It is dangerous no not be looking at the road even a few seconds with a massive vehicle.

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Thanks for this one! That is truly a beast, I’m just not sure about leakage on a RDTA... I’ve built a few coils with success, but still may be a novice unworthy of such a tank. If I knew it would be possible to use that without making a mess I’d buy one today!



Right next door to amazing, actually. I run it in rotation with a Double Barrel, and vape it in the evenings at home. I usually run through 25-30ml of juice at 20-30 watts before needing a battery change. Actually, both the Squid mods get excellent battery life. I'm pushing 20-25 ml through Blitzen (coiled dual) on a Double Barrel at home and about the same on my work mod which carries a Serpent SMM (single coil) on a single charge, and they load 18650's. It's rare to need to swap batteries more than every other week. The T21 does better of course as it loads 21-20700s.
THATS AWESOME. What is a double barrel? Perhaps I should use the tanks you are referring to. What are they exactly?



Also, a huge thanks to everyone pitching ideas and helping me learn. I should have signed up for ecf long ago. This community is already proving itself very helpful and authentic, it’s pretty amazing in here!
 

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Your problem can be easily solved by buying tanks that do not require you to vape at 100 watt... you already have enough mods and batteries to last you the whole 14 hours of chain vaping... you could buy 4-5 Uwell Crown (original) tanks with 4ml capacity and as long as you put into them 1.2 ohm coils you will not use more than 16-20 ml of e-juice per day... those coils require only 15-20 watts so they will drain your batteries much slower... additional benefits is your windshield will not be obscured by huge clouds and you will not have to clean windows as often...

Huge single tank is not very practical... one or two can accidentally brake, coil can burn out and you will be left with nothing.... vaping all day the same flavor can be boring... if you have 4- 5 relatively large tanks on 3-4 mods you can have different flavor in each of them... filling the tank once a day during bathroom brake takes less than half minute... good thing original Uwell tanks are not expensive ($18) they cost less than 3 packs of Marlboro.... those tanks are very well made and rugged... if I was a truck driving I would buy ten of them... putting one on any mod takes less than half minute even without taking my eyes from the road ahead.

That’s a great suggestion! I’m still a noob and did think much about higher resistance tanks. Makes total sense. I figured just get bigger batteries or find a 100ml tank I could strap to a mod that holds like 10x 18650’s. May be a little cumbersome but would last all day.... I guess it was a good idea to ask some more seasoned vapers.
 

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I don't know if this will work but it's worth a look.

This is a power station/passthrough that runs on mains voltage. The passthrough runs on 12 volts and is variable voltage. It looks like the power station and passthrough are sold separately.

It's, basically, a computer power supply that's been adapted. I use my own homemade passthrough made the same way. I don't vape at high watts though.

If your inverter can supply enough power, it might work.

It's expensive though.

You would still need to have several tanks ready to swap out to vape that much juice.

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I’m using a 4 bay charger and an inverter in my truck as you recommend. What I’m trying to avoid is filling tanks and swapping batteries as I’m driving. Most people don’t realize the time constraints as a professional driver however. We work usually 14 hours a day and in order to stay on schedule, and avoid stopping as much as possible. I routinely drive for 5-8 hour stretches with out a restroom break. It’s a very demanding job actually. The way some people behave on the roadways makes it stressful as well. It is dangerous no not be looking at the road even a few seconds with a massive vehicle.




Thanks for this one! That is truly a beast, I’m just not sure about leakage on a RDTA... I’ve built a few coils with success, but still may be a novice unworthy of such a tank. If I knew it would be possible to use that without making a mess I’d buy one today!




THATS AWESOME. What is a double barrel? Perhaps I should use the tanks you are referring to. What are they exactly?



Also, a huge thanks to everyone pitching ideas and helping me learn. I should have signed up for ecf long ago. This community is already proving itself very helpful and authentic, it’s pretty amazing in here!
Hi Markus,

Squid industries makes two different mods; a dual 18650 machine called the Double Barrel, and a dual 21-20700 model called the Tac21. I own both, and really like them. They're not for everyone; they don't do Temp Control, for example. If you want to vape in wattage mode, or bypass with native battery voltage applied to the atomizer, they are solid choices for a certain segment of the market. They're American made, by a Navy vet. And it's a small company with low production volume, so getting your hands on one can require a wait at times, or you might have to settle for a different color or something. Both seem to have really efficient boards as they both get unusually good battery life; I suspect part of the reason they get such good life is they are so simple; no extra vaping modes, no flashy lights or sirens, nothing but a good, solid vape. These boards are proprietary to Squid; they're not installed in any other mods of which I am aware. The boards are also small; the mods themselves are barely bigger than a pair of the batteries that go in them. "Mods for Adults," I call them.

As to toppers, I don't think my experience will help you much. I am a coil builder and have been so long now I don't remember the last pre-fab coil tank I owned (although it's probably still in the unused vape components box). However, My Tac21 is wearing an Aromamizer dual coiled .57Ω and set up at 27 watts. My home Double Barrel-- the black one-- is wearing a Geek Vape Blitzen dual coiled .46Ω and set up at 23 watts. My work Double Barrel-- silver, with a clear/white sleeve-- is wearing a Wotofo/Suck My Mod Serpent SMM-- single coil and the best single coil RTA I own-- at .68Ω and 30 watts.

More questions?

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I am proof that mtl doesn't work for everyone. He seems happy enough with his gear, just looking to get better run time and less consumption. That suggests to me different coils rather than a different draw.

I don't know if I'm the only one that got the conversation geared toward MTL. It's what I do and I'm happy with it. I just wanted to suggest the general principle of lower watts since that would help both on juice and battery. So yes, different coils for sure (I'm guessing a 0.15 ohm coil isn't going to perform nearly as well at 20 watts as 100 watts).

Since he's a truck driver though I'd think he'd want to at least consider trying to vape MTL, since as others have mentioned you don't want to be fogging up the cab with big ol' hits on the vape.

I'm coming back from a vaping hiatus and the industry's changed so much I'm basically a noob again, so my advice isn't going to be very specific on the latest equipment.
 

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I don't know if I'm the only one that got the conversation geared toward MTL. It's what I do and I'm happy with it. I just wanted to suggest the general principle of lower watts since that would help both on juice and battery. So yes, different coils for sure (I'm guessing a 0.15 ohm coil isn't going to perform nearly as well at 20 watts as 100 watts).

Since he's a truck driver though I'd think he'd want to at least consider trying to vape MTL, since as others have mentioned you don't want to be fogging up the cab with big ol' hits on the vape.

I'm coming back from a vaping hiatus and the industry's changed so much I'm basically a noob again, so my advice isn't going to be very specific on the latest equipment.
I would recommend a Zenith with the .8Ω coil since it is a loose mtl, but nothing tighter imo. Of course I could be wrong, with the Zenith he can try both tighter and loose draws.
 

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I think the Steam Crave (or a squonker) may fit your needs better.

I might suggest a secondary more restricted setup (and the Innoken Zenith 0.8 tank/coil is certainly not a BAD place to start) that you can alternate with your more DL setup, and raise nicotine in that tank. If you can alternate them, you may be able to reduce consumption some while still enjoying the way I assume you enjoy vaping-- lots of clouds and more heat. You may find a less cloudy setup enjoyable in a different way. It might help you, and it might help coil life too if you aren't chain-vaping on one setup all day long, you might rotate them.

I was a 3 ppd smoker, I MTL 18 mg, and probably about 6--8 ml per day, using a more restricted device. I found out early on I didn't LOVE sub0hming though....

Best of luck in your search.

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I have been trying desperately to find a mod that will run Valerian coils/tank and will last all day.
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@gandymarsh 's suggestion shines. Might want to contact:
re: Analog Box Mods Canada - About us
Could send/talk to AnalogDan about your requirements. AnalogDan may want to start a trucker line of products. Might be possible to vape with no batteries and multiple squonk bottles with different juices using quick change over capabilities. I'm fairly certain it could be done on an RDA setup to mimic your tank settings (power to a RDA quick connect/release of squonk bottle(s) done by feel only). If your pretty much locked into your tank, you may need to buy several tanks (variable power through to a passthrough to tank 510 unscrew tank done by feel only) ie multiple squonk bottles or tanks. I suspect you would want variable v/w capabilities for different juice settings. With a version of the above, you might graduate to zero nic in no time.
 

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Since he's a truck driver though I'd think he'd want to at least consider trying to vape MTL, since as others have mentioned you don't want to be fogging up the cab with big ol' hits on the vape.

Absolutely.

Another good reason is problem with dehydration... chain subohming 50- 60 ml a day, six days a week does create health concerns... he cannot drink a lot of water since he does not want making frequent restroom stops... try to chain vaping for couple hours and without drinking water your urine will be orange in color...I do not think craving for nicotine is main reason for chain vaping... in fact he has to reduce amount of nicotine to avoid nicotine overload at such huge e-liquid consumption.

MTL could solve all his problems... he does not need 30ml tanks, and he has enough mods and battery cells to last him longer than his 14 hours driving... we do not know if he would enjoy MTL as he is using set up recommended by his local vape shop and probably never tried MTL...what I know is MTL does not mean you have to suck golf ball through a straw and amount of vapor do not have to be minuscule... as a means of nicotine delivery MTL is as good as DTL and throat hit can be much closer to that that cigarettes.... his reason for vaping is not to produce huge clouds obscuring his vision in a truck... but to avoid 2ppd....
 

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If it were me, I would up the nic first. It’s the easiest thing to change. You will naturally need less juice.

See where that gets you. If you are still not satisfied, try a tank with a higher ohm coil.

If that’s still not enough, an mtl tank.

I find making one adjustment at a time is the best method, no matter what the problem is.

When you’re happy with the set up, get several. I charge and fill everything in my rotation first thing in the morning, so I don’t have to fiddle much during the day. I certainly would not want to have to refill while driving.

Good luck!
 
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