Going through coils like they're going out of style.

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Walken

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My Nautilus coils burn out in 2-3 days. I was thinking that vaping was getting way to expensive and looked online and people are talking about them lasting for 2 weeks. I'm just dumb struck. Here's what happening: flavor lessens a bit and I have to drag harder to get a hit, if I keep going with the same coil I can taste the burning cotton and my lungs burn, greatly. Sounds to me like coils are clogging up quickly, causing them to burn when juice fails to come in. This seems to happen the same way across all liquids I try, right now I've been using a 65/35 blend with just menthol. It also seems to happen the the second time I refill the Nautilus, meaning that I can only get through about 10mls. The first or third hit after that refill I can tell the coil is done. I'm at 1.8ohms and 13 watts by the way.



From what I'm reading it seems I might be vaping wrong. What I do is 5 drags (probably more like 8) pretty rapidly, one right after the other, then put the thing down for a bit. I've seen that this isn't how other vapors do it, you're just supposed to take one. I can't see this to be the reason that the coils are clogging after only 10ml though.



Any thoughts?



The nice thing though, after destroying my last coil this afternoon I hard to head to the store and buy a vape pen that use 6 times the amount of nicotine I usually get in my juices, so I'm pretty fine this Sunday afternoon.
 
Aspire atomizers can last up to a month. Then you might change them out b/c the cotton in them gets gunked up.

Always wet the wicking material down inside the atomizer and on the sides. I rotate the barrel and wet it down around three times. Then drop a few drops straight down the pipe where the coil sits.

You may have to change the way you are vaping if the atomizers cannot keep up with you and flow the juice fast enough. Try taking one large draw. See if that stops the atomizers from getting burned up.
 

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Aspire atomizers can last up to a month. Then you might change them out b/c the cotton in them gets gunked up.

Always wet the wicking material down inside the atomizer and on the sides. I rotate the barrel and wet it down around three times. Then drop a few drops straight down the pipe where the coil sits.

You may have to change the way you are vaping if the atomizers cannot keep up with you and flow the juice fast enough. Try taking one large draw. See if that stops the atomizers from getting burned up.


I've been doing my best to pre soak them. I put about five drops down the top of the coil, then I put the whole thing back together and take several draw on it without firing the battering until air bubbles stop floating out, and then let it sit for a few minutes. I guess I might have to change how I vape. I thought of those rebuildable drip atties, would those work for me as liquid won't have to seep in from the tank?
 

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Taking 5 or more quick drags in a row, especially if they're large, is likely to exceed the ability of the coil and wicking to keep up. As Tommy-Chi said, try a single, longer draw. Also, what wattage are you using on your mod, and how do you set your airflow?

13 watts on the 1.93 ohms I have right now.

Edit - I think it's the most wide open air setting on the tank.
 
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5 watts on the 1.93 ohms I have right now.

Actually, 5W on a 1.8 stock coil (reading within ~0.1 is not unusual on a mod) might very well be too low to "vaporize" the juice, resulting in all that rapid puffing trying to get a decent hit and then sucking the wick dry. Try to change your draw and adjust your wattage up a bit, 1W at a step to 8 to 9W and see how it works.

OK, now I'm confused. Are you vaping at 13W or 5W?
 
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Actually, 5W on a 1.8 stock coil (reading within ~0.1 is not unusual on a mod) might very well be too low to "vaporize" the juice, resulting in all that rapid puffing trying to get a decent hit and then sucking the wick dry. Try to change your draw and adjust your wattage up a bit, 1W at a step to 8 to 9W and see how it works.

OK, now I'm confused. Are you vaping at 13W or 5W?

I'm sorry, I was 13 watts and 5 volts.
 

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It also depends on the juice you're using. Sweet, dark juice tends to clog the wick and build up crud on the coil.

You might want to look into an RTA (Rebuildable Tank Atomizer) or a tank with an RBA (Rebuildable Atomizer) head like the Kanger Subtank Mini. They can be re-wicked and dry burned. Even the OCC coil heads can be re-wicked.
 

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I've been vaping an 80/20 PG/VG mix of 10 mg./ml. homebrew eliquid (straight menthol and very strong) using a Nautilus Aspire with a stock 1.8 ohm head at 3.8 to 4.0 volts. (I'm a Provari-oid, so I don't know anything about watts. :p) The head (which is nearing replacement time) measures 2.0 ohms right now.

According to my notes, I changed the heads (two Provaris set up identically) on February 25th. So, do the math as to how long the heads last with a similar setup as the OP's.

Now I've dialed the Provari up to 5.0 volts. After about ten drags, I'm getting a bit of a burnt taste. The throat hit is downright painful.

I just did five huff-puffs quickly in a row. Blech! Now I definitely have to change that head: it's fried.

OP, you're running your heads too hot, voltage-wise! And I suggest you increase your nicotine concentration if you're having to huff-puff to get your nicky-fix.
 

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It also depends on the juice you're using. Sweet, dark juice tends to clog the wick and build up crud on the coil.

You might want to look into an RTA (Rebuildable Tank Atomizer) or a tank with an RBA (Rebuildable Atomizer) head like the Kanger Subtank Mini. They can be re-wicked and dry burned. Even the OCC coil heads can be re-wicked.

Yeah, I've been thinking one of those RBAs, thanks.
 

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Coil life as other contributors have said depends on the wattage/voltage used. It also dependant on the PG/VG mix you are using. The higher the PG mix the quicker the coil will gunk up and fail. When I am cloud chasing I never exceed 70% PG and 30% VG and from my shop bought coils i.5 ohm I have a life of about 2 weeks and I am a chain vaper. However, having said that I now build my own Clapton coils, for my Avacado 24 and they last more than a month. The wicks I change about every two weeks for flavour. As I write I am vaping the above mentioned tank with duel clapton coils the resistance reading is .25ohm and at 30W sweet as, and the clouds are great. I am running my own mix 70/30 as above mentioned and no worries. Also what another writer has said try taking lung hits (longer draws) I find this more satisfactory.
 
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I've been vaping an 80/20 PG/VG mix of 10 mg./ml. homebrew eliquid (straight menthol and very strong) using a Nautilus Aspire with a stock 1.8 ohm head at 3.8 to 4.0 volts. (I'm a Provari-oid, so I don't know anything about watts. :p) The head (which is nearing replacement time) measures 2.0 ohms right now.

According to my notes, I changed the heads (two Provaris set up identically) on February 25th. So, do the math as to how long the heads last with a similar setup as the OP's.

Now I've dialed the Provari up to 5.0 volts. After about ten drags, I'm getting a bit of a burnt taste. The throat hit is downright painful.

I just did five huff-puffs quickly in a row. Blech! Now I definitely have to change that head: it's fried.

OP, you're running your heads too hot, voltage-wise! And I suggest you increase your nicotine concentration if you're having to huff-puff to get your nicky-fix.

Okay Classics, thanks for sacraficing one of your coils for my sake. I'll keep it toned down, but to tell you the truth I perfer it up at about 18 watts but 8 sounds cheaper.
 

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My Nautilus coils burn out in 2-3 days. I was thinking that vaping was getting way to expensive and looked online and people are talking about them lasting for 2 weeks. I'm just dumb struck. Here's what happening: flavor lessens a bit and I have to drag harder to get a hit, if I keep going with the same coil I can taste the burning cotton and my lungs burn, greatly. Sounds to me like coils are clogging up quickly, causing them to burn when juice fails to come in. This seems to happen the same way across all liquids I try, right now I've been using a 65/35 blend with just menthol. It also seems to happen the the second time I refill the Nautilus, meaning that I can only get through about 10mls. The first or third hit after that refill I can tell the coil is done. I'm at 1.8ohms and 13 watts by the way.



From what I'm reading it seems I might be vaping wrong. What I do is 5 drags (probably more like 8) pretty rapidly, one right after the other, then put the thing down for a bit. I've seen that this isn't how other vapors do it, you're just supposed to take one. I can't see this to be the reason that the coils are clogging after only 10ml though.



Any thoughts?



The nice thing though, after destroying my last coil this afternoon I hard to head to the store and buy a vape pen that use 6 times the amount of nicotine I usually get in my juices, so I'm pretty fine this Sunday afternoon.
Make some unflavored with the same percent of PG, VG, and nic and dilute you e liquid 2 parts to one part or even 3 to 1. You may find it tastes as good or better than before after and your coils may gunk up much slower. I mix with just 1.5% flavoring. It tastes fine and coils hardly gunk at all but I do re wick about twice a week to keep the taste as fresh as possible and keep a sizzle on the coil.

Everybody who becomes a life long vaper will be mixing and rebuilding eventually. Why put it off?
 
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The Nautilus is crap... sorry for those that love it, but after several months that my wife and daughter used theirs, I never liked them, they were a pain to use and refill, bland for flavour and were barely a step up from ego types. The coils were crappy, then reports of the silica wick being crap in them and a risk, I never wanted to do anything with them. A few days with new Kanger Aerotanks tanks and those Nautilus tanks ended up in drawers.

We've moved on to cCell type tanks (Atlantis/Melo/others) and RTAs, never looked back.

I never understood the love the nautilus got... and the only reason we got those in the first place was due to recommendations and lots of insistence from the store... I gather that they were money making high profit items.

That said, I believe the other members have already stated the main issue, you're driving too high on wattage, the nautilus are NOT high wattage tanks. Since you appear to prefer the warmer vape, get something better that will provide you with more satisfaction.

I will recommend any tank that takes the cCell types simply because there are so many cross-compatible coil cartridges for them. (and these coils are very easy to rebuild)
 

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chain drags can and will burn up your cotton and coils pretty quick.

i have a bachelor rta, and i do change my cotton every 2 days, and my coil every week (i chain drag till my tank feels warm/hot, let it cool for about 5-10 minutes, and chain drag again ... specially during after-lunch coffee).

as the others already have stated, get yourself a good rta, and learn how to make coils yourself

:vapor:
 

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I had no problems running my nautilus at 1.8-9ohms at right around 10-11 watts. I chain vaped it constantly as well, and my coils would usually last two weeks minimum with most juice. The only thing that lowered the life cycle was extremely dark liquid and flavors like cinnamon. Muffin man by one hit wonder lowered it to about 5 days. But I switched to the kanger subtanks and couldn't get more than a day out of that juice per coil. So I use the RBA which is wonderful. I've also got myself an RDA. Once you master the basics of coiling it really sets you free in my opinion. Plus that extra money can go straight into your juice budget.
 

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Replacement coils like the ink in the printer is The rub. Manufacturers make $$$.
All power head systems have low performance to price curve.
Get a good RTA & a dripper. You'll love it..

Yup, but many can be rebuilt.. I rebuilt mine, easier than a RTA for the most part, at least for verticals. Plus you can have a few spares for on the go in case your coils bums out on you at the worse time.

If you burn your cotton (or the coil) on the RTA, you have to be able to replace them, not easy when you're not home, as most don't carry a kit on them.
 
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