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Bonskibon

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I've just ordered an SXK Wine and a Bellus clone for myself
Have a Bellus myself and really like it a lot. I use the "stopper" for single coils builds. I hear the Wine RTA is great and have one of those coming too. Someone said it's similar to a STM tank which is fine with me since I use the STM rba and enjoy that. :)
 
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That's good to hear - I had an STM which I really liked using the RBA v1 and v2 on, so if the Wine's kind of similar to it, and the vape sounds like it's fixed at a level that I prefer - somewhere between a loose MTL and tight DTL draw.

So you find that the Bellus works OK with the stopper installed in single-coil mode - what kind of coil do you run and at what power?

Did you try the Bellus as a dual-coil, and if so - how was it?

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Have a Bellus myself and really like it a lot. I use the "stopper" for single coils builds. I hear the Wine RTA is great and have one of those coming too. Someone said it's similar to a STM tank which is fine with me since I use the STM RBA and enjoy that. :)

Let us know how you like the Wine. It does look like a nice choice for a single coil. I was considering the Bellus and using the block to convert to single coil, but this look interesting instead.
 
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Let us know how you like the Wine. It does look like a nice choice for a single coil. I was considering the Bellus and using the block to convert to single coil, but this look interesting instead.
I should have it tomorrow, though not sure if I'll use it right away or stash it because I have quite a few tanks going already. I like to have items unused during my stocking phase so I'll have stuff to play with later on. :D
 
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I'll have to check that Wine one too..

I prefer single coils I I've mostly been using NI for TC, virtually impossible to do dual coils).

For RTAs, I have the Eleaf Lemo 2 and the OBS Ace (with RTA). I do have the Freemax Scella (with RTA) that my wife is using with the coil cartridges, I've yet to test out the RTA.

The Lemo 2 is pretty good, but a bit more airflow would be great and the top/side door should have been a big bigger.

The Ace is a gorgeous tank, but it gets very hot easily. The top/side fill will sweat the tank when filling, and they should have done the RTA with a central air feed instead of side build. The top airflow is not really that useful as it simply dilutes the vape, but for someone that would want a very airy pull, it would be a plus for them.

Note that I rebuild my coil cartridges, (for my Melo 2 and 3, Atlantis), so it's kinda the spirit of a RTA in mind for those, just easier to do verticals (my personal preference).

But a huge factor for me is top fill, must have it! And the Melo 2, the Lemo 2, and the Ace have the top side fill door that I absolutely love.
 
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The SXK Wine doesn't top fill, sadly - but when filling from the bottom, the coil and wicks remain intact and in place apparently, so that's a good thing...

Here's pics of the Wine and the Bellus clone I've got coming on the slow-boat:

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hmmm... Fairly generic looking tanks to be honest...nice, but nothing that's telling me that I should get them.

One thing I find, the more tanks I have, the more drippers I have, the more that I find that most really don't provide a huge difference, at least not like some people tend to go on about.

I have a few, as I look for what works well or better, and tried many of everything at some point.

For RTAs, it's going to be about airflow, position of coil(s), wicking holes, and there's only so many ways to do this.

And in many ways, it's the same with cartridge coils types, with 3 important factors: the size of it, how much air gets through it, and the materials used.

I've seen some that have dozens upon dozens of tanks and mods, and I really get that they are curious, passionate even about vaping, but in the end, is there really such differences?

That said, I do believe that there is with some tanks and mods (of course), but that many mods and tanks, they really are simply slightly different shapes and sizes, but they do the same thing in 99% of the same way.

The little variants can make a big difference in some cases, but not really anything in others.
 

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hmmm... Fairly generic looking tanks to be honest...nice, but nothing that's telling me that I should get them.
They were *cheap* - LOL. :)

Also, I've fancied the SXK Wine since I first saw it - I've been after a nice, single-coil tank for a while.

The Bellus clone had good reviews, with a few people saying that it was a 1:1 of the UD - possibly made on the same production line. I don't know if it'll work well in single-coil mode - I must admit that I've never had a chance to try a dual-coil tank with a reducer for single-coil mode before. I'm curious to try it.

If it's a no-go in single-coil mode, then I'm well used to dealing with dual-coils with my Orchid/Foggers.
 

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They were *cheap* - LOL. :)

Also, I've fancied the SXK Wine since I first saw it - I've been after a nice, single-coil tank for a while.

The Bellus clone had good reviews, with a few people saying that it was a 1:1 of the UD - possibly made on the same production line. I don't know if it'll work well in single-coil mode - I must admit that I've never had a chance to try a dual-coil tank with a reducer for single-coil mode before. I'm curious to try it.

If it's a no-go in single-coil mode, then I'm well used to dealing with dual-coils with my Orchid/Foggers.

Trouble is with the dual coils and such with plugs for single, is the space lost, the airflow suffers, etc.

I think that someone needs to move away from a round tank, and go with oval, or even square, so that the posts can be on the edges and leave a huge center for the coils.

What I'd love, absolutely love, would be a RTA that's dedicated as a vertical coil machine... with one post low, and the other post insulated and going as high as possible., and have a side sliding or snap casing for the wicking.

If there's any, I've yet to see one.

The new Lemo 3 has amazing potential but that multi pieces that requires screws and stupid switch to a screw-on top fill instead of improving the sliding top-side door... argh. The first thing I though about when I saw the approach for the airflow feed, was... "hmm.. wide oval shaped vertical coils!"
 

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Yeah - that'd be interesting for sure...

The recent set of popular tanks seem to be going to 24mm, so that might show that people and the designers are on board with having more space to work in inside them.

I know a lot of Lemo 2 fans seemed really disappointed seeing the Lemo 3 for the first time as it's such a radical departure from what a lot of people thought made the Lemo 2 good (single-coil MTL tank) that they should just have called it something else.
 

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Yeah - that'd be interesting for sure...

The recent set of popular tanks seem to be going to 24mm, so that might show that people and the designers are on board with having more space to work in inside them.

I know a lot of Lemo 2 fans seemed really disappointed seeing the Lemo 3 for the first time as it's such a radical departure from what a lot of people thought made the Lemo 2 good (single-coil MTL tank) that they should just have called it something else.

The Lemo2 isn't a MTL tank... it does have limited airflow, but a lot better than a lot of other tanks.

And, they have a few other tanks going now, but I agree, they should have gone with another "series".

They did the same going with the Melo 2 being a great tank with it's top-side refill door, then the Melo3 they go with a twist-off cap refill.

The improvements to the Melo 2 should have been:
1) reduced the bottom airflow ring's size (but not the airflow) to increase the grip area (to open the tank to change the coil).
2) have the fill door turn the opposite direction (as you try to open the tank as per #1, the door opens and if there's liquid in it, you have a mess)
3) airflow clicks in positions, possibly stops at max open and close.

So same with Lemo 2
1) keep the top-side door refill door, make it bigger
2) larger airflow (which it appears they did)
3) better wick wells, possibly larger deck (which it appears they did, but as a dual coil)

At least, the way they did it, since the air intake is central instead of 2 separated wells, we could do huge single coils without a need for a stopper for the dual coil as other tanks are doing. The requiring screws thing to access the deck is just ... derp.
 

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The SXK Wine doesn't top fill, sadly - but when filling from the bottom, the coil and wicks remain intact and in place apparently, so that's a good thing...

Here's pics of the Wine and the Bellus clone I've got coming on the slow-boat:

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I like the no nonsense styling of that wine rta
 
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A few things I'd like to add. As far as cost and vaping being expensive, by far your cheapest option is to DIY. You would need a tank that you can build coils for, but the cost of the tank would easily pay for itself with the savings in coils. I bought some Kanthal wire and OCC cotton for $18 months ago, built probably 20+ coils since and probably haven't used a tenth of what I bought.

As for how you vape, I think we're kind of alike in that respect. People say take a hit or two every once in a while, but I'll usually hit it at least three times for 5-8 seconds. When I'm on break at work, I vape pretty constantly for 10 minutes, and probably take a good 5 "last hits" right before I go back in. I'm not saying this is necessarily good or the "right" way to do it, but just wanted to let you know you're not the only one that doesn't put it down after one hit :) Also, even under this kind of use I don't get dry hits, burnt taste, etc. This is with a Subtank mini for what it's worth, coils built at 1.2 ohms and 14.3 watts (around 4.1 volts).

Also, as far as your nicotine levels, I think you need to do what you think is best. If you're constantly hitting it because of cravings, then maybe you should up your nic. However, if you're hitting it constantly just because you like to vape, aren't keeping busy, etc. then I wouldn't mess with the nicotine levels. When I first started I thought about using more nicotine so I less vaping would satisfy more cravings. But after I thought about it, I realized I don't anyways vape due to cravings (ex. watching TV or whatever) so eventually I would probably end up vaping the higher nicotine just as often and end up with a stronger addiction.

It sounds like the root of your problem is the coils you're using. Maybe vaping less often would help (maybe), but then again maybe different coils could handle how you vape. It does sound like you're using a lot of power, but again maybe different coils could handle that power.

EDIT: I was kind of wondering why more people weren't suggesting a different tank... now i realize there's more than just page 1 :)

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    I have a few Nautilus tanks in service near me, great tanks for what they are. Beware however about the sales pitch - "there is a air flow adjustment and with VV/Power adjustment on the mod you can adjust the vape to your liking..." IMHO: this is complete BS.

    IMHO: you have the adjustments to adjust the tank to the ratio of your juice and then YOU have to adjust YOUR vaping style to how the TANK is working - not the other way around!

    While I've heard many say that 13w is the "sweet spot" for the 1.8ohm coils, I rarely if ever pushed mine past 8-10W and usually less than 4V. This is with clear, unflavored 50/50, 10/90 (PG/VG) or 90/10 (VG/H2O). Add a unclear flavoring and the life expectancy of your coils/wick will be cut.

    I would not describe my 'priming' of Nautilus coils with anything remotely resembling 'drops'. I FLOOD the inside of the atomizer and let it sit on a paper towel until the wick in the 4 juice holes look damp. Then I'll blow out the excess juice into the paper towel - primed and ready to go!

    The ideas presented so far are IMHO good. A second setup is always handy as is a Kanger TopTankMini or something that takes Atlantis coils (including the Atlantis). Many of which can handle more power, have much more air flow and there are fairly decent RBA options in the Atlantis form factor (many of the Kanger kits come with a RBA).

    I usually run with higher mg nicotine levels and just take a few puffs every so often. When I feel the need to satisfy my "motor reflex" habit I switch to a lower nic setup and chain vape THAT. When I start getting a craving, I switch back to the higher nicotine setup.

    I have dozens of mods and tanks because quite a few of them failed me in one way or the other. (or I simply gave up trying to make it work - life is to short to bother with some of them!) Some tanks are easier to build on, others tend not to leak. Some mod's battery life is not ideal.

     
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