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Wake'n'Vape

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As the title suggests i'm looking for something decent and not overly expensive to get started with, that you aren't forced to use wide open airflow. I haven't done much research on rda's, but i'm starting to get sick of how temperamental the pre built coils for my atlantis are!

What is the general consensus on clones? For instance I can get a clone 'little boy' for €10 and a genuine one costs $115.. seems like a no brainer if the only thing you are paying for is the brand name.

Fire away :)..'
 
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As the title suggests i'm looking for something decent and not overly expensive to get started with, that you aren't forced to use wide open airflow. I haven't done much research on RDA's, but i'm starting to get sick of how temperamental the pre built coils for my atlantis are!

What is the general consensus on clones? For instance I can get a clone 'little boy' for €10 and a genuine one costs $115.. seems like a no brainer if the only thing you are paying for is the brand name.

Fire away :)..'



Some of the clones are pretty identical to the originals.

Since you are beginning,
try a rda with a velocity deck,
which are very easy to build and not bad for flavor or cloud building.

why not the velocity itself...!!!
The airflow of the velocity you can adjust in multiple ways
to your vaping needs.

It would be easier for you to build, test and vape.

When it comes to flavor chasing / cloud chasing RDA's....
there are plenty of opinions / postings in this forum,
do go through them at your leisure (& budget).
 

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Don't knock yourself out (unless you want to). Take ^ spalife's ^ advice. It's good advice. Do what this guy did. It's a great beginner deck, and you'll grow with it. It's a great advanced deck too. You'll be pinching yourself. It's that good. Does anything and everything you'll want. Knock yourself out later looking for other RDA's. Fwiw.
 

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Thanks for the replys

I ended up getting a velocity clone with some 26g kanthal. I'll be looking to do a dual coil build of 0.5-0.6ohms.

So I can get .5ohms from doing the following for example:

12 wraps around 1.5mm bit
8 wraps around a 3mm bit

What is the difference in the way I build it? Is there a certain amount of wraps or diameter I should be aiming for?
 
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I have an authentic velocity. super easy to build on. Great first rda. Probably the only one you would ever need. Well until jay-bo comes out with something new. (indestructible on the way)
New JayBo Indestructable is like the American made Indestructable with the comp cap & post upgrade. Don't get me wrong it looks great, but there's no way to get top air only from it. If you block off the dual AFC (side) you're still left with the single coil side AFC. Vectors are selling for VERY cheap lately, so I'm probably gonna get both, because the top cap on the new Indestructable is the comp cap that JayBo made a limited run on for the Vector.

I wouldn't get an authentic velocity as my first rda. It's $125, and that's a ton of money to dump into something without having an RDA or knowing if you even like it.
 

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Yeah my first atty was a VA kraken. not the easiest to build. as for indestructible, i build for clouds. everyone is different. My first dripper was a tobh, very expensive at the time. and to be honest it was worth the 100 and something dollars. I say if this is your first ever RDA go to your local B&M and buy a clone of something that pleases you and work with that. Not trying to promote buying clones. Support your authentics.
 

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Yeah my first atty was a VA kraken. not the easiest to build. as for indestructible, i build for clouds. everyone is different. My first dripper was a tobh, very expensive at the time. and to be honest it was worth the 100 and something dollars. I say if this is your first ever RDA go to your local B&M and buy a clone of something that pleases you and work with that. Not trying to promote buying clones. Support your authentics.

Yeah man, tobh's are the precursor to the Indestructable v1. The Indestructable (Wismec mfg'd today) is a different story, don't know about quality on it but it's cheap enough and has nice enough features to look into buying one. A few months ago before JayBo teamed up with Wismec, he released a comp cap/sleeve and upgraded centerpost & pin for the original Indestructable. The comp cap & sleeve could be used on the Vector as well but the sleeve wasn't a great fit while the cap was. But what I'm trying to say is that today's Indestructable atty has the upgraded post & comp cap with top airflow.

I agree in a way to the buying a clone to see if you like it, but even then you don't know if you'll like an atty because clones aren't always up to quality. Don't get me wrong, in the beginning of my building days I bought clones, and some of them still work today. I've also bought authentics that have crapped out on me within a week (Wotofo Sapor).
In the end it comes down to features you're looking for, whether you want AFC control vs fixed AFC, 2 posts, 3 posts, or a 3 post with a centerpost block for 4 post holes, size, bottom air, side air, top air, or a mix of airflow, etc.
My two favorite RDA's are the Kennedy 24 & dotmod Petri. Both are fixed airflow, and pretty basic in set up. One thing about American made atties that I've noticed the customer service is great. My Kennedy 24 went down with a busted insulator, so I sent it in to be fixed the Monday before Thanksgiving and am expecting it back today (tracking says delivery date is today, but knowing USPS it could come tomorrow). When my Kennedy 24 went down, I didn't know what to do for a week and went back to my Petri but the airflow wasn't the same. So I bought a dotmod cloud cap on Black Friday weekend...(couldn't resist 35% off at a local shop that sells for the same MSRP's as online). Now my Petri has the same AFC size (4x3mm airholes) as the Kennedy 24, but I also have the option to use my standard cap with 2x3mm airholes.

Kennedy Enterprises takes care of their customers, they fixed my atty no questions asked once I told them what the problem was. Because of that, I bought another Kennedy 24.
Another great company is Hobo Customs. I accidently broke my hobo v3.1's center pin in half by over tightening it back into the post. I emailed Hoberto a picture of it on a Friday with my address, after I DM'ed him on Instagram & that Monday, yes, 4 days later, a new center pin was in my mailbox. Great CS yet again.

I'm not saying you have to spend $90+ to find an atty made in America just for quality control and customer service, but knowing a company is going to back their products and won't ignore the customer as most lower end companies have (Wotofo when my Sapor went down, B&M replaced it bc it was under a week old, and the second one broke within 5 days), influences my choices in products.

I still say Vector or the Indestructable atty, but the Vector is a bit simpler & cheaper at the moment. It's top air only so less chance of leaking and over dripping and everything like that, plus it's selling for <$30 at the moment.

The Vector RDA by VLS *
 
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Well i've had the velocity a little while now and thrown a few different builds on it and am absolutely loving it! Honestly have no idea why anyone would use a sub-ohm tank over an RDA. I will definately look into getting a nice authentic at some point but for $15 I certainly cant complain with this velocity clone.
 
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Well i've had the velocity a little while now and thrown a few different builds on it and am absolutely loving it! Honestly have no idea why anyone would use a sub-ohm tank over an RDA. I will definately look into getting a nice authentic at some point but for $15 I certainly cant complain with this velocity clone.
I have a velocity clone. The quality is pretty bad (thanks fasttech!) but it works just fine. I use it for my cat tracks and bigger builds. And for whatever reason it's really good at coloring my coils.
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(Unedited). I have 3 tanks. An Atlantis 2, 528customs Monster v2 & Monster v3. The only tank that compares to an rda is my Monster v3. And that's because it's only an RTA. Pretty much a heavily modded Kayfun.
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TC nickel fused Clapton I had in it for a while.
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It's not the smallest tank in the world but I plan on getting the medium glass chuff kit for it soon. The chuff kit pretty much extends the chimney straight to the mouth piece & has a positive block with larger airflow.
 

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The velocity is too easy to build on. If your new you WILL love that. I have had problems with one of my velocities and I contacted Insignia and they told me to send it to them to work out for FREE.:thumb: As my personal opinion you would be hard pressed not to like the velocity. Unless you only vape single coils. Still getting to know my kennedy 22. so can't speak much on it besides its a little harder to build. Air flow is great. Hey tom could you PM me some instructions on how to color the coils. That would be awesome. BUY A VELOCITY FROM INSIGNIA. Great people. Just waiting for my other one from Dino
 

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The velocity is too easy to build on. If your new you WILL love that. I have had problems with one of my velocities and I contacted Insignia and they told me to send it to them to work out for FREE.:thumb: As my personal opinion you would be hard pressed not to like the velocity. Unless you only vape single coils. Still getting to know my kennedy 22. so can't speak much on it besides its a little harder to build. Air flow is great. Hey tom could you PM me some instructions on how to color the coils. That would be awesome. BUY A VELOCITY FROM INSIGNIA. Great people. Just waiting for my other one from Dino

You can vape a single coil on a velocity. Run it between the posts and only use the indirect airflow to keep the wicks from leaking, or position the wick tails diagonally away from the direct airflow slots. But this is why I won't really recommend getting a velocity as your first atty. Learn to build on a 3 post or an atty with a centerpost block (4 post hole T shaped centerpost) first. It'll help with your overall building.
The Kennedy 22 is a great atty, I mean it's the same post set up as the original Kennedy's and Kennedy Competitions. Just gotta center your coils up over the airflow. I have a Kennedy 24 & another on the way, I posted a pictorial in the Kennedy 24 thread on how to build centered coils for it. Same concept/theory applies to te K22 because of the airflow holes.
 
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Too easy to use though! If they get a 3 post atty after, building will be much harder than just lining up the leads with the holes. I say a 3 post to start out with, learn the harder stuff first so everything else becomes easy.

I agree it would be best to learn on a 3 post, so you can figure out centering and adjustments.Yes its harder. But the skills you gain help you in the long run. Think of it like a car. If you learn a standard transmission then you know how to drive MOST vehicles. If you start with auto and someone needs you to dive a standard your SOL. Might not be the best analogy but its what i got right now.
 

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I agree it would be best to learn on a 3 post, so you can figure out centering and adjustments.Yes its harder. But the skills you gain help you in the long run. Think of it like a car. If you learn a standard transmission then you know how to drive MOST vehicles. If you start with auto and someone needs you to dive a standard your SOL. Might not be the best analogy but its what i got right now.
Nah it's pretty good. Another one most people wouldn't get is DJing. You can start beat matching on turntables by ear, or you can have a laptop and controller or timecoded cd/vinyl and press the beat/tempo sync button to have your songs in time. But if you do the latter first and have your songs auto sync, and you go into a booth with an analog mixer and CD players or turntables with no sync button, you're gonna be majorly screwed & the learning curve is steep.
 
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