Good starting point with Acetyl Pyrazine?

[shakeytails]

I opened my little vial of AP- GAWD that stuff stinks-but I still want to try it.

I only have TPA RY4-type 1 and RY4 Double. Can somebody suggest a good starting point for getting an idea of how to use AP? Somewhere I think I saw either 8 or 10% RY4 and 1% AP. Should I try the double or the type 1? The type 1 *should* be less sweet, correct? I do like Hangsen's 555- nutty, almost harsh at times. Sweet is good, but not all the time!

Maybe I'm being overly cautious, but I'm trying to have at least a few minor successes by using common recipes before I get too ambitious with mixing.

 

[NamVet68]

AP is best when used with "Bready" or Nutty" -type juices, but actually works very nicely with tobacco juices as well IMHO....but the stuff is POTENT. NEVER use more than 1% AP, or your juice will turn to burnt Corn Chips Flavor! Even 5 drops in 30ml can be overpowering...Most DIYers dilute it heavily before use...

I mix my AP 5% down to 4 drops in 6ml PG , then use 1 drop of this dilution in 5 ml of final juice.. But that's to my tastes, and works for me. Start with less, taste, and work your way up - AP requires very little steeping time, so you can more or less tune it on the fly, though it will smooth out as the juice steeps....especially with tobacco-based juices.

Good luck...

 

[Calivapr123]

... I only have TPA RY4-type 1 and RY4 Double. Can somebody suggest a good starting point for getting an idea of how to use AP? Somewhere I think I saw either 8 or 10% RY4 and 1% AP.

I just put that together for the first time 3 days ago. The AP is a bit strong, IMO, and in future batches, I should probably use less, unless something magical happens with more steeping time.

... Should I try the double or the type 1? The type 1 *should* be less sweet, correct? ...

TFA's description of the D-RY4 is: "This flavor is a stronger and more caramel type flavor than our original RY4. Some customers detect a very slight fruity note to this flavor, but others don't. We also offer RY4 Asian, which has no fruity note.

 

[F Bailey]

I use AP at 2% with the RY4D with good results

 

[Chas_L]

Ap and many other listed here

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-ons-em-vw-bw-mts-acv-ect-12.html#post9802283

 

[jgoss]

I like 1 drop per 5mls in bakery flavors. 2 drops per 5ml in cereal and nut flavors. 1-2 drops per 30ml of pie crust flavors. It is a fun thing to mess with but easy to overdo.

 

[jozef-3d]

What's acetyl pyrazine and what advantages of using it? What kind of notes does it produce and how does it alter the flavor? Any health risks with it?

What's the primary usage? Round out high notes? Etc…

 

[Dvx67]

For my taste it doesn't go with RY4 at all. Just personal preference of course. I have few mixes I use it in but just a drop per 5ml or so or it is overpowering.

 

[Leothwyn]

I use AP at less than 1%... to make it easier to work with, I keep a bottle of AP mixed in PG at 10% around. One of my favorite tobacco mixes uses the 10% AP at 3% (which really ends up being .3%). I can't imagine going over 1% with that stuff. Even at .3% it's a very nutty tobacco recipe. At higher levels it seems like it would be hard to still taste the tobacco.

 

[Puppytime]

I took a 10ml bottle of tfa AP and dropped it in a 30 ml bottle then added pg.
I use about 2 drops per 10 ml.
Not an exact percentage but works well for me.

 

[glasseye]

There was a sort of recipe I found here, 1 drop AP in 5ml PG. Just like NamVet said but even less AP. Use 1 drop of that mixture per 5ml of juice. For me that's perfect. I tried using 1 drop of AP straight per 5ml and it was so incredibly overpowering I had to toss the mix.
I think it's one of those things that some people are more sensitive to than others.