got vivi nova.. super tight draw.. with threads barely engaging

[silversx]

i posted this in the gotvapes forum but maybe more visibility here

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gotvapes/309657-vivi-nova-2-5-tight-draw.html#post6504927

really appreciate any help

 

[Iusedtoanalog]

On which device Silversx?

 

[silversx]

i have it on a volt from gotvapes.. basically a bigger 510 stick.. my vtube will be here tomorrow..

but i dont think the device matters because as soon as the threads engage it goes to shiet.. but without the battery attached i can get great draws of air from the tank..

 

[Ratchet]

That seems to be a problem with the Vivi nova tank. I have one, I even like it, but I did notice the very tight draw, too. Does anyone know how to "adjust" that? I noticed it on the lavatube and on my brandnew Provari that I just got today. Same tight draw on both.

 

[silversx]

here's a pic.. as you can see the thread is barely on.. just enough to make contact with the battery to fire..

i can screw it way down but it doesn't make any difference.. as soon as the threads are on.. it becomes tight draw.. i can still see both air holes too.. fully exposed..

 

[Pappy]

Does it act the same way on both of your Volt batteries? I see another one there in your pic.

 

[Iusedtoanalog]

Im going to say take it all the way apart. Remove the top,tank outer, coil and all. Blow through it from the coil side of the tube. If you get free flow then it seems something is sticking up your center tube while its attached to your PV. The center tube is where you draw from. The holes on the side feed through the two little notches in either sic=de of the center tube. the only way you could stop the flow would be to have a hump impeding the flow. I think this can be solved with a shorty 510 to 510 adaptor, they have a flat center conductor instead of a domed shape. thats my only guess, hope im not too far off.

 

[sailorman]

It definitely does make a difference what device you're using. The air hole in the center post of the battery connector is getting blocked. The same thing happens when I try to put one of my VNs on a Joye 510. This is also happens with the chrome and stainless Lavatubes, but not on the Aluminum ones. The spring loaded center post blocks that hole. A 510/510 extender would solve the issue.

 

[supergerbil]

A 510/510 extender would solve the issue.

Yup. That.

Found out the hard way when I got my SSVtube.

 

[silversx]

but this is happening when the tank doesn't even screw in to touch the battery center to fire..

when i suck on the tank with nothing attached it's also tight.. i tried sucking on a phoenix bottom coil with no battery and i get good draw.. then suck on the vivi and feel like i can't breath..

the battery makes it even worse but is not the cause

 

[sailorman]

The Vivi is a tighter draw than the Phoenix. No doubt about that. But after reading your post, I pulled out my long neglected 510 battery and screwed a Vivi to it. Sure enough, it was un-vapable with only enough threads engaged to where it didn't fall off. On my 510, the connector is not letting enough air in and an extender will fix it. The side holes are only supplemental. Most of the air is coming in from the center post and some connectors block it.

That said, there should be 2 notches on either side of the air hole in the center of the connector of the Vivi, I have heard of a Vivi that didn't have those notches. So that's a possibility. Otherwise, it's your battery connector.

[EDIT] I just tried it with my 510 batteries. This time, the draw was o.k. So, I take that back. But check for those notches. If it's not your batery, then there's no other logical explanation.

 

[silversx]

mine are the 2.5 and it does have the notches.. it's a tight draw even with no battery at all.. i took it apart just now and everything is free flowing.. but soon as it gets put back together it's tight..

not unvapable but way tighter draw that a phoenix

 

[sailorman]

Have you swapped the heads? On the underside of the head there are also slots where it connects to the battery post on the inside, kind of like those notches on the battery connector post, but smaller. If those are missing or wrong, it'll block air when the head is screwed on. Is it clear if you just blow through the top of the tank without the cap on or the head installed? I assume the metal piece in the silicone tube is flat side down and has a hole in it?

There are only so many components that air travels through.

It's too bad you don't have another one to compare with. It might just be that you don't like the draw. If you're used to something like the Phoenix, it would seem tight.

 

[Mroutlaw]

but this is happening when the tank doesn't even screw in to touch the battery center to fire..

when i suck on the tank with nothing attached it's also tight.. i tried sucking on a phoenix bottom coil with no battery and i get good draw.. then suck on the vivi and feel like i can't breath..

the battery makes it even worse but is not the cause

sounds like something is in the airhole on the vivi nova. It has nothing to do with the battery. Try cleaning out the tube. Have you tried using a different drip tip? Maybe the white insert sleeve on the stock drip tip is constricting the air flow

 

[silversx]

ok figured out the issue unfortunately it's not something i can fix or adjust..

i tried all three atty heads and same thing.. i tried it with out the atty heads i get great draw.. so the issue is not any where below the atty..

the attys have a very small hole on the bottom going into the air tube.. that i tried pushing the wick and coil aside but it does no good even though i can see light thru the atty..

basically bottom line is the attys air holes are too small at least "for my taste" gives me a can't breath feeling when trying to draw..

not sure if this is how all vivi nova attys are or i just got 3 bunk ones which is unlikely.. so buyer beware if you don't like very tight draws

 

[Mroutlaw]

It definitely does make a difference what device you're using. The air hole in the center post of the battery connector is getting blocked. The same thing happens when I try to put one of my VNs on a Joye 510. This is also happens with the chrome and stainless Lavatubes, but not on the Aluminum ones. The spring loaded center post blocks that hole. A 510/510 extender would solve the issue.

though I usually always concede to your advice sailorman, in this case, I dont agree. In one of his other posts he said that he can barely blow air through when it off the battery. That leads me to believe that there is something in the air tube.

Have you tried switching drip tips? I noticed inside of the drip tip that came with mine, there is another white insert that makes the airway much smaller.

 

[atila]

There is nothing wrong with the vivi nova. Its just have much tighter draw than the phoenix for example.
Mine is the same.
The only solution is to bore out the air holes.

 

[Pappy]

There is nothing wrong with the vivi nova. Its just have much tighter draw than the phoenix for example.
Mine is the same.
The only solution is to bore out the air holes.

Hmmmm. I've got 4 of the Vivi Nova v2's, and none of them has a tight draw - either on or off my VTube, Silver Bullet or KGO.

 

[ramman]

Have you tried switching drip tips? I noticed inside of the drip tip that came with mine, there is another white insert that makes the airway much smaller.

^^ I just tried switching out the drip tip with another 510 tip and it didhelp a little. Still nowhere close to a Phoenix tho. Then I took the Nova driptip and put it on a Boge carto and the draw was a little tighter than usual. So it seems the tip does reduce air flow somewhat

 

[MilesChris1]

Having the same problem with the nova vision mini and my itaste.The phoenix works great but the nova vision is un vapeable.Only other thing I have to try it on is an ultimo vision and it wont work with that for obvoius reasons.I compared the connection on phoenix and the vision nova mini and the phoenix has smaller holes above the threads and isnt slotted on the very bottom like the VN.