Got Vomit?

[HeyYouComOvrHere]

I've found a clone recipe that I tried and one of the flavors is really giving me a nasty taste, reminds me of vomit. I can inhale, allow the vapor to settle in my mouth and lungs and taste nothing but goodness. But when I exhale, ooy vey, the after taste comes on full bore and I feel like I am vomiting....granted it brings some great memories of college but I'd rather forget the ends of those nights...lol.

I THINK it's the Brown Sugar, Sweet Cream or the Butterscotch since those three are relatively new to me, vanilla custard is my staple in all my other juices. I had this problem once before when I wasn't using Butterscotch or sweet cream at all but I don't remember the exact flavors I was using then. So, I think I've narrowed it down to the brown sugar. Has anyone else had similar experiences with brown sugar? Does anyone know if any of these flavors in excess (Not sure if my percentages are considered excess or not but still...) can create this vomit effect? Although I've used the brown sugar before as well as the Vanilla custard, perhaps I'm using TOO much compared to the others? And it's creating the vomit flavor? I just don't know...

At this point, I don't think the brand of the flavors nor the name of the mix itself matters (though I'm sure the pro's can figure out the recipe from the flavors)...so I'm only listing the flavors and their percentages...

• 12% Butterscotch
• 6% Sweet Cream
• 4% Vanilla Custard
• 3% Brown Sugar
• 6mg nic
• 50-50 VG-PG

I really like the original for this recipe and I'm hoping I can get this clone worked out...just SOMETHING is really giving me a nasty taste that I just can't fight through. I've walked away from it, come back hours later. Forcibly vaped it over and over and it still has that taste. I've steeped it for a couple of days and it hasn't gotten any better. If anyone has a thought on which flavor is the culprit, might you also know a good way to offset that nasty taste?

Thanks in advance for helping a newbie DIYer.

Mike

 

[2naphish]

12% seems a little high on the Butterscotch, 4% sounds about right for a starting point. that being said, i'm not sure i want to know bad enough to mix it. it's kind of like asking if the milk smells bad. good luck though.

 

[HeyYouComOvrHere]

Additional info...after my original post, I thought maybe I would check some other recipes I've used to see if I'm using a LOT more Vanilla Custard than usual and I'm not. Two of my favorites are fairly plain...

• Vanilla Custard (15%), French Vanilla (5%) and French Vanilla Creme (3%) along with my normal base (6mg nic and 50-50 xG)
• and one of my ADV is Vanilla Custard (15%), Dulche Leche (2%) and EM (0.25%) along with my normal base

 

[HeyYouComOvrHere]

Is it possible the sweet cream could be creating a foul taste? When I first tried this recipe, I didn't have any sweet cream on hand and substituted Bav creme and it tasted fine. Since the original recipe called for sweet cream, I figured changing it to the correct flavor, it would only enhance the mix and make it even closer to the original....maybe that's the culprit?

 

[inspects]

I've found a clone recipe that I tried and one of the flavors is really giving me a nasty taste, reminds me of vomit.

lmao.......

 

[HeyYouComOvrHere]

12% seems a little high on the Butterscotch, 4% sounds about right for a starting point. that being said, i'm not sure i want to know bad enough to mix it. it's kind of like asking if the milk smells bad. good luck though.

So, if I want to dilute this down to something more reasonable, do I just add more of each of the other ingredients as well as the VG-PG to bring the butterscotch portion down? My SWAG would be to increase each of the flavors by 3X and add 3X more of VG-PG...nic I can keep or omit, just will reduce the level of nic. But would that make the overall percentage of Butterscotch=4%? I hate math...lol let my computer do the work...lol

 

[HeyYouComOvrHere]

lmao.......

I know, I know, serves me right trying to save myself a couple of bucks trying to create a knock-off....lol

 

[JD1]

The sweet cream would be my first guess. Try cutting it way back and see what you get. Depending on what you like, moving away from the cream flavor a little might work. Something like 1% cream, 1% lache, 2% marshmellow, or something like that?

I'd recommend drawing off 1 ml at a time to work with until you get something you like, and yeal, let the computer do the math for you lol. I like the ejuice Me Up calculator if you haven't tried it.

 

[HeyYouComOvrHere]

The sweet cream would be my first guess. Try cutting it way back and see what you get. Depending on what you like, moving away from the cream flavor a little might work. Something like 1% cream, 1% lache, 2% marshmellow, or something like that?

Ok, I will give it a try. When I got the sweet cream, it didn't smell too strong. So, I figured it wasn't that but hell, I'm game for anything. Thank you.

 

[sedition]

That's the clone of Claim Your Throne. I've tried the mix as listed, and yep - 12% Butterscotch was way too high, at least for dripping. I've got a new mix steeping, ing which I scaled the total flavoring back to 10% using the same ratio - see here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/647823-scaling-total-flavor-blends.html

 

[HeyYouComOvrHere]

So, I've got about 3ml of the CYT mix in my Kanger subohm. Before your post, sedition, I closed my eyes and took a deep inhale of the two flavors I'm debating reducing...Butterscotch and Sweet cream. The nasty vomit taste IS in fact the butterscotch, you're correct...waaaay too high. Quite frankly, I can't believe anyone thinks this is even CLOSE to the original...completely different. That being said, I've added 3 times of each of the other flavors and although the flavors are still working their way into the cotton and the coil, I can tell a difference already.

Thank you ALL for helping me figure this out...I was fighting tooth and nail trying to determine which flavor it was...just didn't think to add the flavors one at a time or vape small increments...lol. Now, time to adjust the 100ml bottle I have steeping...lmao

 

[sedition]

Prior to finding the recipe I tried 4% each of Sweet Cream, Brown Sugar and Butterscotch - whether it was close to the original or not, it didn't last more than a few hours, it's delicious in it's own right. Have you tried the original?

 

[JohnnyDill]

The nasty vomit taste IS in fact the butterscotch, you're correct...waaaay too high

LOL, yea, 3% TFA Butterscotch is enough to taste that flavor. Still laughing at all the vomit descriptions.

 

[Soignee]

Is it possible the sweet cream could be creating a foul taste? When I first tried this recipe, I didn't have any sweet cream on hand and substituted Bav creme and it tasted fine. Since the original recipe called for sweet cream, I figured changing it to the correct flavor, it would only enhance the mix and make it even closer to the original....maybe that's the culprit?

I've had that vomit taste thing happen with sweet cream (I think TFA) and it's kind of put me off to using it again...

 

[BlkWolfMidnight]

I'm still wet behind the ears in flavorings myself but...
Idea

Novelty flavor-Vomit...
I'm really being honest, they already have Chicken and potatoes, brine pickles and a few others that are just too wrong to vape but people do .