Graduating from Blu to Kgo VV but need help...,

[agn727]

Never smoked less than 2.5 packs (Menthol Light 100's) a day for many, many years - 4 pack days were common. Never wanted to quit, but was worried about getting through a long flight I had coming up and tried a couple disposables before getting a Blu Premium 100 kit back in mid-May. Turns out I made it through the flight without jonesin'. LOL!

I really like the Blu's, but knew I'd move on at some point. Now they've forced my hand by being out of Menthol Highs for, like, 2 months!?!? Actually, it turns out I like Cherry and Vanilla better than Menthol, who knew?!, but now I can't trust Blu as a supplier. Also, the battery life is a constant worry given the level of my 'addiction.' And the batteries themselves can be downright flakey - even lighting up when not plugged into anything occasionally.

Oh, and many times, an entire box of carts has arrived soaking wet from leaking. And other times you run across the odd 'dud' cart that does nothing. On the bright side, despite my CONSTANT vaping, I rarely used more than 2 Premium 100 carts in a day unless I came across a dud. Reading on here, it seems casual smokers can burn through 3 a day...? Maybe they aren't using the 100's, though.

So, after much research, I narrowed my next battery choice down to the iTaste or the Kgo VV. The Ego Twist has glowing recommendations, but I'm a sucker for LCD screens and lights. LOL! Well, the iTaste is already on it's 3rd revision and they've done away with the pen cap - which I liked. I think I'll wait until they settle on a finalized version with all the kinks worked out. Plus, the iTaste seemed bigger than I was ready for at this point.

Admittedly, the Kgo VV hasn't been run through any paces thus far... But I began placing my order for it with Hoosier. Not the biggest store, but a good reputation and they seem to have an exclusive on the Kgo VV. I figured it's better to take a risk on Kgo hitting one out of the park on a frist swing, than on Innokin not striking out again a couple more times... We'll see...

Onto my dilemma: What else do I need in my shopping cart?

1)-Chargers. Each battery will come with a micro USB charge cable - hopefully the same connector most cell phones use. I have computers and USB wall adapters that should work with them. But I also like the USB dongle I got from Blu. Are these available for Kgo VVs? Hoosier has a Kgo USB dongle with a short dangling cord, but I prefer the un-corded Blu - I keep a spare in my eyeglass case at all times, so space is at a premium.

2)-Cartomizers/Clearomizers/Drip Tips/tanks/Coils - bottom, top, dual/Wicks/Ohms/Low or High Resistance/Atomizers/Rebuildable this-and-that??? This is all Greek to me! I've got some idea what most of 'em do and look like, but I'm still too lost to know what to buy for the Kgo VV. This is too much to grasp without any hands-on experience. I know it'll get easier. But for now I could use some guidance. So, here's my criteria: I'll probably get 1 tank to use at home when I'm in one place for a long time. But I wouldn't wanna be seen out with it - too big, at least the ones I've seen. So, if I get one, do I need to attach an atomizer to it, or is that built in? I'd like to have a lot of flavors ready to go in a more discreet size. So the small colored clearomizers (I've even seen LED ones that make me want to reach for my wallet! LOL!) seem like a good idea. But, do they leak when upside-down? What is refillable and for how many times? What's easiest to clean and fill for a noobie? I'm happy with the Blu size, taste, amount of vape - but sometimes the 'draw' was too hard. Variable Voltage isn't a big deal to me - YET. However, since the Kgo VV has it, what will work best with it and on which voltage without blowing anything up? LOL! The iTaste at least would've recommended voltages to me.

3)-Juices. I plan for at least my first order all to be through Hoosier. Not sure if I'll need any special needles or anything to fill the above. And if I use too strong a voltage, will I burn out the taste? - that can happen with Blu's if I take too many hits in a row. I'll probably get 7 to 10 different flavors - bigger sizes of stuff I think I'll like and smaller of ones I'm on the fence about. But I read some flavors are too thick for certain delivery carts/tanks/etc. Anything I need to know? I'm excited to try things like Grape Soda, Butterscotch, Mint, Cola, Pez. I don't miss analog cigerettes at all. I see these flavors and think of them as guilt-free desserts - not cigarettes! LOL!

I'm sure I forgot some things. For instance, I wonder if a Personal Charging Case that could carry lots of filled carts and batteries is available(Blu's is pretty cool, though a bit small for my needs), but the hour is late and I just want to complete my order and get it shipping. Any input on what I should start off with will be truly, greatly appreciated. Thanks all for bearing with me and taking the time to read all this. This is a great site. Sorry I didn't learn all the answers simply by lurking. At some point, in all my cramming, the more I read, the more confused I got! LOL!

-Andrew

 

[CDnerds]

2 Kgo (ego Batteries) Batteries
1 Charger
10 cartomizers @ 2.0 or less ohms (510 connection)
Juice is whatever flavors you like.

If your buying a kit then you will just need some juice and cartomizers if the kit only has an atomizer.

 

[zuzette]

i cant help you with the kgo vv question. i use sandard kgo and ego batteries and im quite happy with them. I would suggest looking into the vision nova mini (they have it at hoosiers). it will probably hold enough to get you through most of your average work days with refill in the evenings. ah but of course - at only 2 carts a day you might find that the mini holds enough juice to get you through an entire day and evening.

they dont leak! and they are compact enough to fit the ego/kgo batteries smoothly. they are not big in any way. I have also used the ego ce4s - they are ok but they do leak a little. they are not ideal for travel.

as far as filling- the vivi nova is very easy to fill and you can simply use the drip top that comes on your juice. just take of the tank cap and dribble some in along the side. since they are so easy to fill you can easily take a small 10 mil bottle for refills with you "just in case".

 

[CDnerds]

I didnt realize you were getting a VV. I would stay away from VV for now if your coming from Blu Cigs. Stick with the basics and learn a little before you jump into the mix. Normal Kgo batteries would probably serve you better.

 

[Unforeseen]

Congratulations on transitioning to e-cigs! Welcome to the forum and hope you'll be happy with your new purchase.

1. Besides the charging cables included with the batteries. You will have to buy the dongles separately if that's what you really want.

2. LOL everything was confusing for me as well when I started. Since your new to vaping. I would suggest you start with SR (2.8-3 ohm) cartomizers first. Just until you get a hang of things. Remember that you have to pre-fill a standard sized cartomizer with 1ml or 25 drops and let it sit for about 30 minutes before vaping. Also after about 10 drags and a little bit of rest. You can drip 5 drops to keep it from getting dry.

Only suggesting this since they are fairly easy to use and cheap.

3. You don't need any special equipment. Dripping out of the bottle is mostly what you'll be doing. Unless you move onto more advanced set-ups but, you don't need to worry about that for now.

Different flavors do better at certain voltages compared to others. Tobaccos and menthol's can be vaped at any voltage. Although, they do well at higher voltages (5-6V). While dessert and sweet flavors tend to do better at lower voltages (3.7 - 4.5V)

My recommendation would be to get small 3ml bottles just to see what you do and don't like. Wouldn't want to be stuck with a 30ml bottle of e-liquid that you think is disgusting.

 

[agn727]

Thanks for all the advice.

CDnerds is right that I have a lot to learn and fooling with VV probably isn't the next recommended step. But I'm assuming that if I leave it set at 3.7V or something, it'll perform much like a non-VV would. So, for the few bucks more, why not have the option? Or, is my logic flawed?

I couldn't find the Vision Mini Nova that Zuzette mentioned, so I put a Vision Nova Tank Clearomizer V3 Slim in my shopping cart. I also threw in a Smok Tech SCT CE4 style tank 2.0ohm, but I may remove that due to the reviews skewing negative. Any other accessories (mouthpieces, wicks, etc.) I should stock up on for these?

Following through on Unforeseen's recommendation is proving more problematic. I'd like to grab at least 10 of the SR (2.8-3 ohm) cartomizers as recommended, but Hoosier's Boge SR's are 3.2. I suppose I'll probably just pull the trigger on them. But the most popular on the Hoosier site appear to be Smok tech Dual Coil Cartomizers for 510 in many, many varieties...

I also grabbed 6 3.5ml Vision Clearomizer - 2 each in 1.7, 2.3 and 2.8ohm just because the price was right.

Is this overkill? Anything I'm missing? Well, except for juice, I'm off to select that now...

Thanks again for the hand holding. LOL!

 

[Baditude]

I think you will enjoy the Vision Nova Tank Clearomizer V3 Slim. Easy to fill top, the right size for an Ego.

When choosing your cartomizers, just realize that the dual coil ones will burn through more juice faster, and drain your battery faster, too. I get just as much vapor with the the single coils, and they allow a moderate amount more battery time as they are only firing one heating element instead of two.

I'd recommend the Smok Tech 1.7ohm single coil EGO (KGO)cartomizer to try. This is like a giant cartomizer and works the same way. Simple to fill and use. Holds 2ml of juice. Sturdier in a pocket than a clearomizer would be. Here they are at Hoosiers: Smok Tech 1.7ohm single coil EGO cartomizer

Some of the posters here seem to take for granted that you already know how to drip juice on an atomizer. I don't believe that they read all of your history with the Blu cig-alikes. Just saying, there are those of us who either don't like dripping, or never learned, me being one of them. You have said several times that you like simple ... pre-filled cartomizers, weren't interested in filling blank cartos, etc. You do realize what dripping is?

An atomizer is like the bottom half of a cartomizer, heating coil in the bottom, no polyfill material, you drip a few drops of juice from a bottle onto the heating coil, vape a couple of minutes, and repeat the process. You literally need to drip juice from a bottle while you vape. Somehow that doesn't sound like you from your description of yourself. Just wanted to clarify that.

You are getting two ego's, correct? You must have a backup for your primary vaping device, in case one stops working.

 

[Pappy]

CDnerds is right that I have a lot to learn and fooling with VV probably isn't the next recommended step. But I'm assuming that if I leave it set at 3.7V or something, it'll perform much like a non-VV would. So, for the few bucks more, why not have the option? Or, is my logic flawed?

No, your logic is good. Once you try the VV, you will LOVE having the ability to adjust your voltage to suit your juice or the resistance of your Vivi Nova heads. For example, the Vivi Nova comes with 3 heads - 1.8ohm, 2.4ohm and 2.8ohm. You will probably vape the 1.8ohm at 3.7 - 4 volts, the 2.4ohm at 4.2 - 4.6 volts and the 2.8ohm at 4.4 to 4.8 volts.

I couldn't find the Vision Mini Nova that Zuzette mentioned, so I put a Vision Nova Tank Clearomizer V3 Slim in my shopping cart.

You did good. That's the MINI Vivi Nova (Hoosier calls it the "slim") and it will fit on the KGO VV like it was made for it.

I also threw in a Smok Tech SCT CE4 style tank 2.0ohm, but I may remove that due to the reviews skewing negative.

I've never used that one. But I suspect after you use the Vivi Nova that you would wish you bought another Vivi Nova instead of the Smok Tech tank.

You did good. That will be a fine kit. It may not be the last one you ever buy, but it is NOT a waste of money and should serve you well for a long time.

 

[Baditude]

I've never used that one. But I suspect after you use the Vivi Nova that you would wish you bought another Vivi Nova instead of the Smok Tech tank.

Can't speak for that 2ml version. I have the Smoktek Titan clearo tank that holds 5ml. Actually 2 of them, and just ordered a couple more today. I like them for their simplicity and function. Again, easy fill screw off top. Nice vapor and flavor, no dry hits or flooding. Not the prettiest device, I'd have preferred a more polished steel look.

The 2ml version might look a little top heavy on an ego battery. Below is my 5ml on a BB mod.

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[lotsoffish]

Thanks for all the advice.

CDnerds is right that I have a lot to learn and fooling with VV probably isn't the next recommended step. But I'm assuming that if I leave it set at 3.7V or something, it'll perform much like a non-VV would. So, for the few bucks more, why not have the option? Or, is my logic flawed?

No, that is actually spot on and since you realized that on your own you already understand more than 99% of the folks making the jump from Blu to a bigger more powerful E Cig.

I do my shopping at Hoosiers myself.

Now if you also pick up a couple boxes of these- 2.0 ohm low resistance cartomizers you will have the 2 batteries plus 10 refillable carts and I would bet you could make those carts last at least 2 Months or so if you keep refilling them.

There are literally 1000's of 510 type thread "things" you could also try out on those batteries moving foreword. My favorite vape is using these tanks- Dual Coil Cartomizer Tank with a Single coil single hole 1.7 ohm smoketech cartomizer in them. I can fill a tank in the morning and be set for the entire day and since I vape those at between 3.4 to 3.7 volts my batteries last a LONG time.

Now if you get those batteries and then get a couple boxes of cartomizers and perhaps a tank or 2 now along with about 10 extra tank carts (these) - Pre Punched Replacement tank cartomizers you will REALLY be set for a LONG time.

That in my opinion will get you vaping with the "big boy" stuff compared to those little Blu batteries you have been using.

I am not going to even mention Clearo's to you yet. I don't get as crazy over those as most folks do cuz I am a Carto/tank guy but most do work fairly well for A LITTLE WHILE but they do NOT last all that long and they cost quite a bit more than regular old Cartomizers do so keep that in mind. They can also be annoying as hell. LOL!