grandsons want to start vaping

[Vatigu]

What do their direct parents think?
If you are the guardian how about you make the rules, those devices aren't cheap and they won't be able to hide them cut the money and take the devices.

Of course if you are of the opinion that they should make their own choices and you don't want to be a tyrant then have them submit an essay outlining the reasons they want to do it. Evaluate whether they are informed enough to make the decision for themselves (remembering that non-nic vaping is highly unlikely to bring with it any form of dependance even nic vaping hasn't been shown to be addictive so far...)

I strongly believe a guardian should be able to override the rules of the state regarding their children.

All I know is I'd rather my kid was vaping than smoking any day. The rest is on you.

 

[Rizzyking]

Hawk your in a crap position of wanting to do what's best and looking to them as though your stifling their fun. Vaping isn't cool it really isn't and if I hadn't been a smoker for over thirty years I wouldn't touch it with a mile long stick if I could go back in time I would never take that first cigarette but I can't but your family have the chance to show they are smarter and cooler then we ever were by having the choice and making a good one to not start vaping. They are young and they have their health better to make good use of that by doing things they can do rather then what someone else decides is cool.

 

[Bunnykiller]

If what the ANTZ say is true, they will be smoking real ciggies in about 3 weeks.....

 

[Froth]

What do their direct parents think?
If you are the guardian how about you make the rules, those devices aren't cheap and they won't be able to hide them cut the money and take the devices.

Of course if you are of the opinion that they should make their own choices and you don't want to be a tyrant then have them submit an essay outlining the reasons they want to do it. Evaluate whether they are informed enough to make the decision for themselves (remembering that non-nic vaping is highly unlikely to bring with it any form of dependance even nic vaping hasn't been shown to be addictive so far...)

I strongly believe a guardian should be able to override the rules of the state regarding their children.

All I know is I'd rather my kid was vaping than smoking any day. The rest is on you.

This is pretty much what I wanted to say, it depends on your position as their guardian and how informed they are. When I was 16 I wasn't an every day smoker but I would definitely hide a cigarette here and there from my folks and when I turned 18 it was "game on" and I became a pack-a-day+ smoker. Honestly the 18 year old can make whatever decision he wants, the law allows him to purchase and use the product however I'm sort of on the fence about introducing a 16 year old to it, when I was 16 I started smoking because I perceived it to be "cool" and your 16 year old grandchild seems to think vaping is "cool", which could go two ways - One, it completely keeps him away from smoking for his entire life(yay) or Two, it makes him curious about what smoking is like, if he's never done it. Only if the 16 year old could really convince me of the decision, that he was aware of all the factors and acted mature during the entire process would I even consider it a possibility.

 

[Rizzyking]

Trouble is with things like this you have the parental protective instinct kicking in and wanting to steer from things that they would be better not doing and practical rationale they don't always go together which is why I applaud hawk for this thread he is just trying to do what's right. End of the day hawk you can show them this thread, try scaring them off or reasoning with them but in my experience once your kids\grandkids which a certain age our influence is a lot less then the people they hang out with and sometimes you have to let them go their own way and be there if it all goes wrong just saying what you already know good luck to you and your grandkids however it goes.

 

[Cacique]

When I was growing up I thought long hair, piercings and smoking were cool in that order. I grew up in an extremist (cult) religion, so it gave me a way to get out of my house the moment I turned 18. I still hid all these things for as long as I could, but I would be out every day smoking a hand rolled cigarillo. I started because a friend of mine smoked them, and I basically forced him to let me try his cigarillo. Some time after that I moved out, from Puerto Rico to the states and I started smoking more, got my ears pierced, and grew my hair. I didn't quit smoking until I met my girlfriend and started spending more and more time with her, because she had recently quit and her mother had recently ended her fight with breast cancer. I got stuck on e-cigs a few years later because I'm constantly cravings cigarettes due to oral fixation.

If kids thing it's cool, and it's a serious thought, then they will most likely try it no matter the fear mongering.

 

[EBates]

Please excuse me for being soooo not with the times, PC, etc But.....

What ever happened to Just Say NO and mean it

And throwing in Cool Like Grandpa? Really!???

 

[DC2]

The ANTZ have correctly predicted that young non-smokers will be drawn into vaping.
But they'll be wrong when they find out that young vapers do not generally go on to become smokers.

They'll just get tired of it, or find something else to spend their money on.
At least I hope so.

 

[Cacique]

Education works much better than saying no. You're not answering the curiosity, not answering the WHY not. A child that likes to think will not be satisfied with just a no, they need to know why they shouldn't do it. That's the best shot you have.

 

[EBates]

Education works much better than saying no. You're not answering the curiosity, not answering the WHY not. A child that likes to think will not be satisfied with just a no, they need to know why they shouldn't do it. That's the best shot you have.

Yep, only had the one bullet

 

[HauntedMyst]

I am coming up with the meanest things to do over here to my brothers...
How bout drip some 18 mg and give them a pull, I wonder how "cool" they will still feel.

Your heart is in the right place but you aren't really thinking this through. He needs to invite them over to enjoy a nice hot and spicy chili mac dinner followed up with some 36mg dual coil cloud chasing to see how they like it. If its at his house, he should have them put on Depends first.

 

[clh2121]

Here's my 2 cents... For the 16 year old- You're not old enough to buy it yet, forget it. To the 18 year old.... Why? I have heard of some younger adults (of age) getting an ego or something 0nic to use when out with friends who smoke/vape... Peer pressure thing. Easier to say nah I have my own than no. Supposedly that was the only reason they used it. If its for the clouds... Go get a Fog machine.... cheaper in the long run. And a bag of candy... there's the favors. Your lungs will thank you later. AS for being cool... what's cool will change in 5 minutes if you'll wait that long.

 

[cocacola31173]

I have a 14 and a 17 yr old. When I started vaping I explained that they were to treat it like my cigarettes and not to touch it. They never bother any of my vape gear .

 

[danny4x4]

18 year old grandson, I would tell him, " Your life, your decision. Just don't regret it later in life and ....h about it later. "

16 year old grandson, I would tell him, " If I catch you vaping or smoking, I'll tear you a new one. I believe in corporal punishment. Wait till you're 18 and I'll let you decide. Until then, what I say is law. "

 

[Ou2mame]

If i was only vaping flavored juice at 16, lol... My parents would have thought their prayers were answered

 

[NickBenson]

I'm 34 years old and have smoked for 20 years. I started because I thought it was cool. Trust me if I could quit on my own I would never vape. They shouldn't start this if they've never smoked.

 

[four2109]

Nobody says it's harmless. Just that it's better than smoking.
At their age, don't they have anything better to do with their hands? And their money?