Growing increasingly frustrated.....

[Shnozberries]

So I purchased a Kanger EVOD kit about 10 days ago. Two days in I was all, "this is the greatest invention in the world." So I was happily vaping my Backwoods Blueberry I bought at the smokeshop along with the initial kit when I decided to try some more flavors. I got onto thevaporroom.net (awesome service, fast delivery, what else can you ask for? Great company) and ordered a 6 flavor sampler, along with a free 30ml butterscotch as a first time member, and a Kanger EVOD style tank, which uses a slightly larger atomizer and has MT BCC written on it.

The package arrived on Saturday, and since my original tank was still full of blueberry, I loaded up the new tank with butterscotch and started going at it. A little burnt at first, it mellowed out and tasted wonderful. The next morning, the burnt taste returned, bit it was still just competing with, rather than overpowering the butterscotch. I initially blamed it on the new tank and Atty.

At the bottom of that tank, I was so excited to try my Sweet Watermelon that I actually poured out the quarter tank of blueberry and poured it in, along with a new atomizer head. It was even better than the butterscotch...for awhile. It eventually became very burnt, at which point I spent six hours on the internet trolling this site as well as youtube and other resources trying to find the solution.

After troubleshooting with removing wicks, flipping grommits, and all the other cleaning/dry burning procdures to no avail, I tried another juice. Next up was French Vanilla. Literally the worst taste I've ever experienced. I liken it to overdone biscuits and gravy with a side of newspaper used to scrape dog poo off a boot. The aroma from the bottle was heavenly, all reviews online say it's great, and I just cant help but wonder why my rig is burning these wonderfully crafted juices into burnt up crud.

So today I went back to square one. I went to the smoke shop in pursuit of some atomizers, (assuming I bought a bad batch) but since they were out of the individual coil units, left with a brand new Kanger tank, just like the one I started with. Loaded this one up with Strawberry Cheesecake. A brand new tank and coil unit, I saturated the wicks, pulled one out, and put it all together. This time it was like bitter cardboard again, only with a slight tinge of sweetness (and a hint of buttered popcorn) trying its best to be noticed.

Finally, after all of this, I assume I can go back to the old go-to, something I know is good, something to rely on--that delectable butterscotch. Put it in the new tank after cleaning out the strawberry cheesecake, I discovered that the intricacies of this heavenly nectar have been overpowered by the taste of what I assume can only be likened to industrial waste.

I soaked all of my wicks, atomizer heads, and tanks. I've seen the light, I've tasted how good this can be, I haven't touched tobacco since New Year's day. Now I'll sit here scratching my head as my battery charges, trying to figure out what in the world I'm doing wrong because I know it isn't the juice producing the rancid tastes, it must be my device. Can someone please help me before I relapse?

Just kidding. I'm getting my nicotine fix. Just wish it would taste like it should. Thanks in advance!

 

[*deleon517*]

first thing I would look at is what vg% was the original juice and what % is the newer juices. Higher vg will take longer to wick properly and for those that chainvape can often give that burnt taste. sometimes its not the devices fault but us overlooking something, still happens to my wife even with all the warnings I have given her.

 

[Dakota Jim]

1st off - Welcome to the forum
2nd - sorry you are having flavor issues

is your battery a variable voltage? if yes what voltage is it set at?
what ohm (resistance) are the atomizer heads you are using? too low (1.5) may cause a burnt taste while too high (2.8 or higher) will cause a weak flavor with hardly any vapor

Have you loaded your original blueberry back in and how does it taste?

some eliquids need to be steeped for a week to get the flavor right, some have a perfumey/alcoholy/burnt taste and leaving the lid off over night might help evaporate it out.

 

[GoodNews!]

Wow, sounds like some of my vaping stories to a tee...

Here's my weird experience lately - I've found out that pretty much no devices work for me. In most devices, my tongue is so sensitive, that when I vape a sample flavor, all I taste is either metal, wick, or some sort of ugliness. The flavor simply doesn't come through. I can have a million people sitting around me saying "Oh, that tastes like a cup of cappucino with truffle bits and a hint of key lime pie with peppermint." and I almost have to look at them like their nuts. But this is what I've found:

I don't believe this is smoker's tongue, because I've done some pretty specific tests, finally finding a device that worked for me, and in that device (which was one known for huge flavor anyway) the juices tasted complex, clean, tried, and true. Just like what others were always tasting on regular vaping devices. Yet here's the difference: this particular special device I used, it was using NiChrome wire, and a special variety, at that, as opposed to Kanthal wire for the coil. Same wick, silica.

Nothing else about the device was really any different than normal, although it was also very high in ohm, around 3.5. I'm sort of pitching a theory that different wire works with different tongues out there - that some people can, wether directly or subliminally, taste a lot of the metal on Kanthal, and that, while it may not always be pinpoint, that it can perform like a negative equally out a positive. The flavor just won't be there. If you have any interest in trying a test out, I'd recommend the $13 version of Cisco's dripping atomizer, probably around 2.5.-2.8 ohms, to see if you get the world of flavor that I did.

It was like vaping for the first time! And I just don't think it's smokers tongue because I keep well hydrated (even with still smoking cigarettes) and my sense of flavor is virtually not muted for any food or drink in the world. I can still taste full e-juice flavor in some surprising set-ups as well, like disposable e-hookahs and e-cigs, and stuff. I also did some tests comparing the Cisco to other devices in the same vaping session, and where the Cisco gave me full vapor and full flavor, other devices, that were giving me the "cruddy" taste you describe, fell flat on their ..... It seemed to have nothing to do with my tongue.

Even if smoker's tongue is a factor, we have to not taste toxic sludge in order to actually begin to vape!

 

[Daisey Moonshine]

In my experience, the local varieties of liquid are the worst. It may be the sweetener that burns off and leaves that taste halfway through the vape. Try steeping it they say, but there is only so much you can vape a bad product and not get turned off by it.

 

[Imnukingfutz]

That was happening to me a lot when I first started...which was only a few months ago. The advice I was given was to loosen my tank up off the battery just a hair allowing more air to flow through.

Now very rarely do I get that burnt taste unless I take too many tokes in a row...what the other guy called "chain vaping".

 

[jj1257]

Sounds like its burning off vapor faster than the wick can replace it. You could try reducing voltage as soon as you notice the burnt taste(.2v to .3v will usually do it). If that doesn't work, the next step is to clean it (which you did). If you keep using it when it tastes burnt, you may have to replace the wick to get rid of the burnt taste. If this is an ongoing problem, try adding a drop of distilled water to your liquids to thin them out a bit for easier wicking. One last thing: first time using a new atomizer - fill it and let it sit for 10 minutes before first use to allow the wick to fully saturate. Hope this helped and good luck!

 

[Rickajho]

Based on your description that everything you put in it goes burnt in short order or the flavors are way off it simply sounds like you are running the coils way too hot. What resistance coils are you using and what voltage/wattage are use running? High volts/watts, just because you can, doesn't work for Kanger BCC clearos. Dial it down and try again.

 

[Sir PennsylVapia]

I would say go all the way and get a HH357 atty. $8.00 more but there is absolutely nothing that comes close. Well other than RBA's and RDA's. Oh and when I say there is nothing that comes close to it I forgot to add "IMHO" and/or "for me" as such things are always subjective not factual when it comes to taste. I do like to slap on a 306 every now and then.

 

[DaveP]

Burnt taste is usually a coil crusted over burned juice or a starved coil that gets too hot. If your juice is dark, really thick, or sugary it will burn and crust over the coil. Clear or slightly colored juices that you can still see through in the bottle are best for coil life. Dessert flavors are notorious for clogging coils due to the flavorings used to created them.

Dry burning will restore those heads to like new condition. Buy some 2mm silica wicking at the vape store to use in case you lose the flavor wick during the process. Once they are wet they tend to come apart.