grrrrrr HC

[sam.8]

So, a good friend of mine and coworker after seeing my pv decided she too wanted to get one. She had tired in the NY to quit with the patch unsuccessfully. Like many here, she's tried everything over the years.

My first order i did order from the US, since then I usually do canadian vendors to just not have to risk the whole border issue. With juice anyway. But given she ordered it shortly after I got my first one she went with the same suppliers, in the US.

It's been weeks. Today she was informed with a letter from HC, a typical form letter about needing a note from her doctor, yada, yada. I'm going to phone the number on her behalf tomorrow to at least plead ignorant but inquire where the large bottle of zero mg is as well as the actual pv.

From what I understand the only issue is the nic liquid, correct? Any advice prior to making the call tomorrow would be great.

 

[kalvinf]

If HC is good to let things through customs with a doctors note I can get that. This would solve the whole issue, depending on your doctor of course.

 

[sam.8]

Wow, thanks. Good to know. But given there was only two small bottles of nic liquid (and technically i have enough to cover until she finds another vendor) technically HC can't confiscate the ecig and non-nic juice, correct?

 

[kalvinf]

Not sure on the confiscation of e cig hardware and non-nic juice. I think some people have had hardware only orders refused.
Is there any possiblity of getting a scanned image of the form letter your friend received from HC?

 

[smokum]

I think you'll find that if nicotine was in the shipment, that the entire shipment will be refused entry. I'm pretty sure they will state its not their job to separate unallowable product (rightfully or not) from non regulated ones.

It's also quite possible that the hardware itself contains instructions or advertising that they can twist to conceive as health claims, also making "those" unapproved items.

Always contact the vendor ahead of time before you order out of country with special instructions as far as labeling/declaring of contents. If they don't want to "play along", find someone else.

 

[sam.8]

That's the odd thing tho. Given I had the same vendor (and successful) it's sorta interesting. I'm going to see the mail first hand tomorrow. Not a huge deal, it was a minimal order.

Either way I will check the letter out and likely be the one to phone and just call on our work break tomorrow. Should be interesting.

 

[Danesnpits]

Wow, thanks. Good to know. But given there was only two small bottles of nic liquid (and technically i have enough to cover until she finds another vendor) technically HC can't confiscate the ecig and non-nic juice, correct?

If the nic juice is with the hardware in the same package, they can indeed seize all items.

 

[hotone]

If the nic juice is with the hardware in the same package, they can indeed seize all items.

They don't seize they refuse entry and ship it back to the vendor.

 

[kingcobra]

I guess that the hardware isn't approved either now that I think of it, unapproved medical device is how they see it, so if they catch your stuff then you're probably in trouble. This just goes to show you that sticking to Canadians is the way to go.

 

[sam.8]

I agree. She ordered a day after I got my first kit. So end of April start of May. Since my first pv adventures I've pretty much ordered only within the country. Much easier!

 

[Concat]

HS can not regulate ecigs. Only nicotine. However, it's up to customs to interpret their mandate and to act upon it, so you're at their mercy, really.

They almost always "return to sender" so you should get a refund minus the cost of shipping.

I'm of the frame of mind that anything you NEED should come from within Canada, and that would include someone's first starter kit.

 

[kingcobra]

Yeah it's best to get started with the Canadian stuff then you can monkey around with the extras once you're up and running. I once had a package take over 6 weeks to come when it usually comes within 10 days and I assume it was customs that held it. This was a perfectly legit shipment and they did let it through, if tracking isn't an option you can be in the dark for a good while.