guy at work bought a "mall" ecig

[ad356]

what a waste of money, $200. he could have had a really good unit like a provari or a buzzpro, instead he chooses to waste his money at a mall and buy something that probably isnt equal to a cheap joye 510 that he could have had for $40. i havent seen him use it yet (his grandmother died recently), but i was talking to his girlfriend that also works with me(they both work where i work). she has wanted him to quit smoking for some time, i told her that an ecig is the right way...... but dont be surprised with that mall thing that he will stay off of cigarettes. i guess they only sell these prefilled "carts", we all know they are cheap, inferior cartomizers. i dont know what these malls are selling i never bothered to check one out, but from what i heard about them here is that they suck. i guess this guy wants to continue to look "cool" in front of his friends and wants something that looks like a cigarette. the sooner he realizes that he should seperate himself from the smokers and not look like them the better off he will be. i love going outside with my provari and looking unique and different from all of the people that are filling their bodies with disease causing toxins. im glad he decided he bought an ecig and decided to buy SOMETING; but i wish i knew why he decided to buy that mall crap. he sees me vape everyday; i would have gladly pointed him in the right direction with a quality product for a reasonable price; he wasted $200 on a peice of dung product. he will find that the less then 280 MAH battery and cheap atomizer is not going to work for him and hopefully he will ask me before returning to the stinkies. i just wish i could have saved him some money OR got him a really screaming product for the same amount of money.

the biggest problem i see is that people insist on buying something that still looks like a cigarette. i guess the provari is just too big of a unit for a newbee; personally i think its a rockin' product and a good value when you consider just how long something that is built so well will last. the provari seems to be built to last the long haul.

he thinks that something like a provari looks big and akward, the reason it is big is so it can accomdaite a much better battery. personally i love the fact that it is big, its much easier to no loose it.

what is it that they sell in mall stands anyways. is it some variation of a joye 510, or is it some garbage like njoy; blu; or green?

my first ecig was an njoy and it was junk. people that want to get into vaping should ask experienced vapers before they spend their money. learn from the people that already made the mistakes.

 

[supergerbil]

Not the first time Ive seen this here..... and Im still a noob lol.

Google smokekingcigs and prepare your Rage Face.

 

[Strigoi]

i guess the provari is just too big of a unit for a newbee; personally i think its a rockin' product and a good value when you consider just how long something that is built so well will last. the provari seems to be built to last the long haul.

A Silver Bullet will last longer.

/sick of the Provari nut-hugging that goes on here.

 

[cskent]

To each their own, there's always a favorite here that's all the rage. Then something else comes out and everyone who wants the latest and greatest rushes out to buy one. Some of us can't afford to do that though.

I started out with a mall e-cig, it was an overpriced piece of junk with a 4081 connection, auto batt's, and a PITA to keep working. Oh well it got me to do research and I found ECF and I'm doing great. So maybe your friend will come to the conclusion that e-cigs have potential but he needs to upgrade. Perhaps you have an old eGo or boxmod laying around that you could lend him. Or crank up your Provari and let him take a few hits so he knows there's much better to be had.

 

[HawkeyeCS]

I totally get you're point, but we all started somewhere, I started on an ego, and could never go back to that now... Don't know too many people who keep on going with what they started with, so the most important thing is he is trying to quit. When you see him next, congratulate him on trying to quit, ask him how's he doing with it. If he says that he's having a hard time, invite him to try yours, let him feel and taste the difference for himself. If he really wants to quit, and those mall ecigs aren't helping him, he may move on to a more advanced device and ask you for advice. But if those things are working for him, then don't discourage him or knock the product. As pbusardo says, whatever gets and keeps you off the analog cigarettes is a good device, so encourage him to keep it up, and be the smart vaping friend if he needs one...

 

[Jaymzifer]

I also started on a mall set up, it happened to be a pretty nice eGO kit. Did I overpay? Hell yes but the end result was the same: I quit smoking. 200, 100 or 50 dollars isn't what mattered; I don't smoke anymore, that's the beautiful thing.

We all start somewhere.

 

[Vchick]

Ya know when I was ready to quit I went straight to the mall and did the same thing. Wanted it now and wanted it to look like a analog and yes I paid to much.

Good thing is that it was enough to get me to stop smoking completely (2 years next month). I found this forum and was able to get help finding alternate pieces 'n parts for my set up to keep me going and I also did alot of research.

What I've eventually worked up to wouldn't have suited me then (Rivas, Vmod & Darwins) but it did the trick. Be supportive and give him an opportunity to work with what he has, it'll keep him coming back to you down the road and hopefully stick with it.

jmtc

 

[Dana A]

He didn't talk to you first so he didn't know any better. At least he started somewhere and will likely google e cigs and find ECF.I totally agree with HawkeyeCS on his post.

 

[merlin440]

For new vapers size is an issue, I initially went with a Blu myself. Why? Because I didn't realize that the size wouldn't matter in the beginning. I thought auto over manual that way I can hang it in my mouth etc. Boy was i wrong, even the smallest ecig is impossible to hold like an analog and puff on.

Anyway what I'm getting at visual is defiantly part of smoking, well it is for me at least, that's why I lean twords VG based liquid over PG, less throat hit more vapor. Some people may never get over the size issue, it took me going to an eGo, then getting bigger and bigger batteries for longer life, then the pass thru on top of it. I then tried a box mod and loved it, that's what forced me to realize that the size isn't an issue. BTW I'm a Provari owner too, got two of em now and honestly if I would have started with it, I'm not sure that I would have been able to handle all the changes I made over time, losing the size, look, and well lifestyle changes.

 

[Spazmelda]

A friend of mine on Facebook is quitting with Chantix, and someone advised her to get a White Cloud. Eek!

I wrote her a PM and told her that if she found herself slipping with Chantix to let me know and I'd steer her towards a decent e-cig (and a bunch of other information). She seems pretty determined to quit with just the Chantix, so I didn't 'rain on her parade'. If she can do it, then more power to her. And her friend who loves the White Cloud, more power to her too, I guess. She got good and reamed, but as long as she's happy and not smoking that's good.

 

[DancingHeretik]

There really is a lot to be said for the small form factor. It helps trick you into FEELING like you're not giving anything up. It's good to help start. Depends on the person.

 

[JENerationX]

I started with a crappy smoke shop model... then came here and found the Volts. Form factor was a huge thing for me. I'm now using the Volt X2, but if you'd handed me that I wouldn't have tried. I was happy with the Volt 78mm batteries. I still am. I use those all the time. I have the X2s simply for larger battery use, and the clearomizers are easier to fill. I think some of the veterans around here need to get off the big battery wagon and realize that when replacing smoking some want as close to that experience as possible.... they may move to bigger batteries eventually, but won't even give it a chance if they can't find something analog like to start. In those cases, I think we need to be able to step back ourselves and recommend a decent mini as a starting point.

 

[DC2]

I think some of the veterans around here need to get off the big battery wagon and realize that when replacing smoking some want as close to that experience as possible.... they may move to bigger batteries eventually, but won't even give it a chance if they can't find something analog like to start. In those cases, I think we need to be able to step back ourselves and recommend a decent mini as a starting point.

There are always going to be folks that retain the belief that everyone else is probably just like them.
Even in spite of years of evidence to the contrary.

I'm of the belief that a system like the Volt is adequate for a lot more smokers than some people want to think.

However, I really do understand the counter-argument that starting with a mini can turn someone off to vaping.
But on the other hand, you make good points as well, and thinking you have to start with something bigger can be a turn off for some.

Personally, I think if someone doesn't mind starting bigger then they probably should do so.
And if someone doesn't mind spending more money to progress up the ladder, then they definitely should.

I think the best way to appreciate certain aspects of the larger, more advanced models it to proceed through the smaller more basic ones.
People who skip those steps may like what they have, but may not appreciate it as much.

Nothing necessarily wrong with that though, I guess.
It's almost certainly a lot cheaper anyway.

 

[Forkeh]

You know I get your point about the mall ecig not being the best decision one can make, but to be honest, if it keeps him from smoking, it's worth what he paid for it. Health is invaluable.

I also feel like you're being really judgy. So what if he wants to hang out with smokers? Maybe he's friends with them and likes the social function of smoking. Maybe he's not ready to give it up, or maybe he doesn't want to at all. Don't look so far down on smokers....you used to be one man. Smokers have just as much right to smoke, as nonsmokers do not to. The stigmatization of smoking has gotten way out of hand these days. I don't think I'd really want to be friends with someone who won't "associate" with smokers, especially if he used to be one

 

[iamtumus]

as my friend progressed from a smoke shop ecig to an ego i continually tried them.
and then i moved to connecticut and i discovered the wonderful world of box mods in AA around here...
now i'm happily puffing on a reo

 

[Ciar]

A couple of months ago I decided due to the impending birth of my daughter to go by a ecig, I picked up the e lite recently i picked up the skycig! luckily for me I then found ECF, now using a vision 900 from vapeescape and it's amazing, cost me two of those mall cigs, not that i bought them in a mall ;-) you learn i did thankfully but only from people on here and elsewhere being very very helpful.... eventually i will probably donate those lookalikes to someone else to help them out..

 

[The Soot King]

I'll go ahead and throw out that the worst thing the E-Cig community can possibly do is make a post like the OP. Instead of being happy that a friend is quitting, he is essentially ridiculing him because of a bad purchase. All of these threads that talk down to smokers and people who prefer mini-sized E-Cigs do nothing but fuel an image that E-Cig smokers are elitists. We need to be helpful, supportive, and embrace those that are interested in order to grow our numbers so that one day we will be the norm and not the minority. There is nothing wrong with suggesting a better unit to someone who has bought a lower end product, there is everything wrong with talking down about them behind their back...

 

[teamscon]

- All one needs is a ego or kgo system.
-You sure are taking offense to this guy spending his money lol. Its his money ya know? Sounds like your one of those "I purchased it, so its the best" guys.

-Provari, and other high dollar mods just arent worth it unless your satisfied with nothing but the best and are rich. Ego or kgo will perform the same at 3.7v as the prov. Besides, if noone would buy these overpriced mods they would go down in price.

 

[Spazmelda]

/sick of the nuthugging people do over all the $200.00 mods ... Whatever. Stop paying it and they would go down.

No reason for them to cost as much as a cheap pc.

I don't care what size e-cig people are using. The 'mall' type cigs do make me mad though. When someone pays $239 for a starter kit and $19.99 for 5 small cartomizers (which they are told is the equivalent of a carton of cigarettes) they get reamed. If they don't go looking for better options then they will think those are what e-cigs are, and that they are expensive and don't work well. If they see the lower priced (probably better quality) e-cigs online, they are going to assume them they are even worse than the 'premium' kit that they got suckered into buying.

I don't assume that people are stupid for buying these things. Many people are desperate to stop smoking or switch to a less harmful alternative. The over priced mall kits are probably often an impulse purchase, and it's hard to research these things (plethora of fake review sites). Hey, I bought an inferior drug store e-cig without really doing any research. I googled, but all that came up at the time were those fake review sites. Luckily I didn't pay more than $50 for my lack of in depth research, and it saddens me when people do. For the many people here who accept that they got suckered and are okay with it because it brought them down the path of learning more, there are probably many more who wrote e-cigs off as an idiotic fad and a waste of money. I dunno, not much I can do about it except try to tell people that there are better options and hope they listen.

 

[SkyDancer]

I was buying my prefilled cartos at the gas station after initially getting a couple of starter kits; 2 tiny batteries with 2 cartos. It was costing me more than analogs! One day a friend told me I could hack those and add my own juice. She filled up one of my cartos and after that I went home and ordered some juice. While waiting for it to arrive, I tried tracking down some in a nearby town in the mall. Well like I said, I'd just ordered some 5ml bottles to try, paying $3.99 each. The place in the mall turned out to be a slimmy kiosk and wanted to sell me the same amout of juice for $25.99! The girl in the kiosk tried to convince me that it would last longer than a carton of analogs. Well I was and still am a newbie but not born yesterday HA. I told the girl what I purchased online and told her she was crazy and walked off. Dang I wanted some juice but no telling what was in that stuff not to mention the price gouging. BTW they wanted $65 for something similar to what I got at the gas station for $10.99.

Oh yes, the girl that was younger than my son at the kiosk was telling me she'd mix me a custom blend. I'm thinking ok, undiluted nic mixing in a mall kiosk.....geezzzz. Talk about an accident waiting to happen?