H.R. 1256 Passes Congress...Here we go!

[truthseeker]

It finally happened...

Historic anti-smoking vote to give FDA new power - Yahoo! News

One interesting quote on the article though:
"Thursday's legislation gives the FDA power to evaluate the contents of tobacco products and to order changes or bans on those that are a danger to public health. The agency could limit nicotine yields but not ban nicotine or cigarettes"...

Thoughts?
Have a great day!

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Well, a 79-17 Senate vote for it---speaks volumes as to what is to come. No mercy--------Sun

 

[Palmetto]

It finally happened...

Historic anti-smoking vote to give FDA new power - Yahoo! News

One interesting quote on the article though:
"Thursday's legislation gives the FDA power to evaluate the contents of tobacco products and to order changes or bans on those that are a danger to public health. The agency could limit nicotine yields but not ban nicotine or cigarettes"...

Thoughts?
Have a great day!

Unfortunately, no surprise, since it's "for the children." (And Phillip-Morris, but let's not mention that.)

 

[gotthelife4u]

First I can find bullets for my .45 and now I may not be able to get my vape on. What is this world coming to.

 

[OutWest]

Once it's official, imho it's grounds for doing away with all smoking bans. After all, it's FDA approved. It'll never happen (the doing away with smoking bans) but it is a bit hypocritical to have it FDA approved yet banned from being used in certain areas. Not to mention the smokers that have been blocked from being able to adopt simply because they smoke. Not only were they engaging in a legal activity but now they'll be engaging in an FDA approved activity.

 

[happily]

there goes my Idea for the new APPLE I-VAPE aimed at kids

 

[Surf Monkey]

Again, that's why this is bad legislation. If the FDA holds to its core directive, they have no choice but to ban all smoking. The science shows it's dangerous/deadly. If they allow the sale of tobacco products, they compromise everything else. If they can approve a smoking product that has been shown to kill people, what stops them from approving other drugs that have been shown to kill people? Nothing. This bill, assuming the FDA doesn't throw a blanket ban on all smoking, renders the agency ineffective, untrustworthy and ultimately irrelevant.

 

[ShadowDemon420]

This is bull *@*$&@*&&#*@& mother @($*&@(*$!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[galaxywd]

But.... this bill still swings many ways. Take a look at the USA Today summary of the bill - (I can't post links yet )

They really sum it up, though still left with many gray areas it seems that according to the article they can't touch e-cigarettes. Really, it specifics only tobacco products, and is e-cigarette a tobacco product? No, it's not. We also know that tobacco companies chemically modify the nicotine to make it more addictive, they are just so much worse on many levels.

 

[Surf Monkey]

and is e-cigarette a tobacco product? No, it's not.

That hasn't been fully established yet. If the nicotine comes from tobacco leafs, then it's a tobacco product. If the nicotine is synthetic or comes from some other natural source, then it's not a tobacco product.

 

[Nem]

OK so who decides if our e-cigs ARE tobacco products or not, I hope NOT the FDA.

 

[MaSuAnime]

God I watched the Senate pass the damn thing, and man am I very angry! If they come after our vaping, I don't know what I'll do

 

[galaxywd]

Yea I agree, so we need to put synthetic nicotine our e-cigarettes for this to stay alive, but my point I was trying to make, is why not..... because tobacco companies modify their nicotine anyway, why cant we... (not to be more addictive , but you get my point )

 

[happily]

If an e-cig is deemed a medical device it is already under FDA jurisdiction

 

[galaxywd]

Also here is the USA TODAY LINK - Senate passes the most sweeping tobacco-control bill - USATODAY.com

 

[badkat]

Hey, we should find a way to vape congressional manure ..

 

[Vicks Vap-oh-Yeah]

E-Cigs are in a grey area - are they tobacco? Don't know. Are they a drug-delivery device? Don't know.

Unfortunately, with the passage of the monster it no longer matters. E-Cigs, no matter what their classification now, will be under the thumb of the FDA.

What we need is a new classification for clean recreational nicotine use - long term, not just the short term NRT's pushed by Big Pharma. Right now, that new classification doesn't exist - and the PTB keep trying to cram our PV's into an established classification that doesn't fit.

Until we get THAT settled, the FDA will halt importations. Period. How fast? Dunno. It depends on how fast the legislation develops.

 

[galaxywd]

Part of the lawsuit with FDA & SE is going to have some huge influence on that topic I bet.... does ANYONE have any news on that by the way... I've asked everyone I know at SE... but NOPE, no news.. the judge was suppose to say something by June 15th, I guess he's taking his time... which is ok IMO

 

[orlampagal]

Hey, we should find a way to vape congressional manure ..

And I just became a vegetarian

 

[bruce1289]

gotthelife4u blame Chuck Schumer of New York for any gun laws he is crazy! Look at his new tax he wants on sugary drinks!! We will be communists