Here is some more news about PR ART
I ordered couple different ART (again). I'll give it a try, and will let you know.
I ordered couple different ART (again). I'll give it a try, and will let you know.
Halo Freedom/Smooth/Torque recipes???
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I always seem to be a day late and a dollar short. Got excited reading about the Torque clone only to find its no longer available. I'm mainly after some 40-45mg Torque to use in my eRoll. I got some 24mg and bumped it up to 40mg with some 100mg base. Lost a little flavor in the process but it is doable. I might try a 30mg bottle of TA and see if it keeps the flavor any better. I wonder if they will do a flavor boost on it? Halo wouldn't do it when I asked. Also they won't do any higher than 24mg.
OK, received the ART. Not the same
Have no idea where to buy it now. Too expensive on Halo or TW....
i wonder if this flavoring will be a prime15 clone
http://www.ecigexpress.com/flavorsexpress-tobaccoexpress-c-16_96_98/tobacco-express-555-10ml-p-1346
its called Tobacco Express 555. the discontinued TW flavoring thats the prime clone is called State Express 555. hmmmmmmm!
http://www.ecigexpress.com/flavorsexpress-tobaccoexpress-c-16_96_98/tobacco-express-555-10ml-p-1346
its called Tobacco Express 555. the discontinued TW flavoring thats the prime clone is called State Express 555. hmmmmmmm!
Well no joy from TW. They won't make it up stronger than 30mg and no flavor bump. I wonder if they are getting it premixed and no more concentrate. Anybody got a bottle of TA flavoring they want to part with? I'm just wanting some full flavored with higher nic.
PM me. I picked up several of the halo clones when they were available. Decided not to get hooked on them after they were discontinued.
What!! say it ain't so. No one has a current DIY recipe for torque 56? I read through patiently only to find out I can't get tobacco americano. Bummer. Does anyone of the talented DIY'ers have any idea what the current source and recipe are? I'm counting on you!
i noticed that TW has the concentrated flavor "Statex" now, in place of the 555 State Express which was the prime clone. i called them to see what they say about it and they told me that it is similar to the 555 State Express, but a different manufacturer. if anyone is feeling hopeful, its only $4 for the flavoring. might be worth giving it a shot.
since the retiring of the Patriot Range by TW, i think someone has tried the Red Label StateExpress, but i dont recall any posts on the Gold label "Statex".
since the retiring of the Patriot Range by TW, i think someone has tried the Red Label StateExpress, but i dont recall any posts on the Gold label "Statex".
well, if thats the case, perhaps this flavoring will be a prime clone. its the closest thing i could find to 555, its called T5 perhaps for triple5(?)
http://www.ecigexpress.com/hangsen-tobacco-c-16_125_126/t5-tobacco-flavoring-by-hangsen-p-1915
I love prime 15 and have been looking for a clone for a while before coming across this thread. I so happened to order T5 a few days ago thinking it could be a close clone. Should be getting it today. Also ordered some TFA DK tabocco which I read is also susposed to be close to prime. I'll keep you posted.
Reporting backed as promised on the Hangsen T5 and unfortunitly it taste nothing like prime 15. I mixed 5 drops to my 5mi of 75/25 24% NIC base as recommended earler in this thread and steeped it in hot water until it cooled. It tasted closer to FA MAXX with a bit more bite and through hit but no nuttyness what so ever. I'll go back to it in a few weeks and see if it changes. But for now being that I like MAXX, I think it will make a good base for combining with other flavorings.
As far as the TFA DK Tobacco not even close. Taste like a lighter version of the FA dark vapor.
As far as the TFA DK Tobacco not even close. Taste like a lighter version of the FA dark vapor.
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try adding some AP to your hansgen T5 mix. it imparts a nice nutty essence and will instantly remind you of prime imo. heres a link but start small. i forget how small, its been a while since i cloned prime. maybe 1 drop per 5 or 10ml.
Acetyl Pyrazine 5% PG Flavor Concentrate (TFA)
I already have some AP. In fact was thinking of adding it. Will give it a go tonight. Any idea on the steeping time which is usually 2 weeks. I tried it in a hot water steep and it made no difference and it stayed clear which I was surprised at.
Give it two days on the Hangsens. After that you'll pretty much know what it's gonna taste like. I don't notice much of a difference if at all between two days and two weeks. Usually mix at 7%.
I added 1 drop AP and that got me in the ballpark but still a little sharp and bitter. I then added 1 drop tfa sweetner and that took the bitter edge off but still a bit strong on the tobacco taste. I then compared it to the actual prime 15 and have to say it's 99% there. I think after it steeps the flavors will blend and be perfect. So my final reciepe is this.
5mi 75/25 24% NIC base
5 drops (1 drop per ml of base) Hangsen T5
1 drop AP
1 drop TFS - Sweetner
% wise that would be
4.5 - 5% Hangsen T5
1% AP
1% TFS - Sweetner
Some where between 4.5 - 5% Hangsen T5 will be the exact prime 15
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Let's get some creative minds working together here on the Torque situation again! 
Any promising leads?
Any promising leads?
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