Halo Freedom/Smooth/Torque recipes???

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I have been trying various Tribeca clones but, with the exception of RY4+AP, they all taste a bit too 'tabacco-ey'...even after aging a few weeks. Don't get me wrong, they are nice vapes, but I still crave that authentic taste.

I made a couple the other night (just taking a shot in the dark) but I limited the extra tobaccos:

TFA RY4D - 12%
TFA AP - 1%
FA Virginia - 6 drops/50ml
MFS TA - 2 drops/50ml
Capella's Caramel - 1%
NF Bavarian Cream -1%
TFA Cotton candy - 0.5%

I also made an identical one, but I swapped out the NF BC for FA Catalan Cream. After sampling one (w/ BC), I realized that it has way too much caramel. I'm going to change that to 0.5% next batch.

About AP: I had read that it doesn't hold up very well with aging. Should I just add in in later? Or maybe use a greater amount? When I open a fresh bottle of Tribeca, it's the main thing I smell, I think. Or maybe they are using another ingredient that helps to stabilize it?

I'm almost compelled to pay for analysis of the original lol. As a lay person, however, would that info help me? I doubt the results will come back like this:

TFA RY4D -xxx
TFA AP -xxx
Hansen Flue-cured -xxx
Etc., etc. :unsure:

Lastly, I have some vape Wizard. Never used it. If I drop some in my Tribeca clones, will it smooth out some of the tobacco taste?

Oh yea, I just received some Inawera Nutty Princess tobacco....I wonder if it will make a good base for Prime 15 ( I was planning to add a bit to my next Tribeca clone...just taking shots in the dark lol ).
 

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A new "controversial" brand of French eliquids recently arrived on the market. They openly sell clones of Halo's liquids, and through copyright loopholes they are even able to use the original names! They carry a copy of Boba's as well.

No idea how close to the originals these clones are, I didn't get a chance to try them yet but the reviews I read were pretty good. They also offer the concentrated flavors (recommended 15%):

CONCENTRÉS NOVA - Liberty-vap

I watched this video before the holidays and was discouraged to buy from the reviews he gave of these clone flavors. Although this is only one persons take on it, I'll stick to these DIY's that I enjoy.

And, thanks to all of you for the effort you have put into this thread!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-BDoBgywR4
 

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They do not ship to the US

Hi ,Eagles

Pitty they dont ship to the US. Wonder if theres some redirection service in France that can redirect to US.

Also found this, seems its NOVAs main site, asked if they ship to the US, seem they do :) http://www.nova-liquides.com

Others like this shop from Ireland also ship to US: http://e-cigaretteshop.eu/en/

If anyone has experiences with that brand, pls share.

Regards
 
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Hi, Silent Death

Ive seen that one also, plant to test it, if someone has, pls inform results.

Also have seen a variation using Aqua's (french) Revolution that I plan to try. Aquas revolution is very similar to Freedom and their Liberty remembers it also, but smells just like longhorn and tastes a bit like longhorn...

10% Aqua Revolution
1% ethil maltol TPA
1% vape wizard FA
0,5 % acetil pirazyne TPA
0,5% smooth TPA
87% pre prepared base 18mg NIC (nicvape) 70% PG / 30% VG.

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I have been trying various Tribeca clones but, with the exception of RY4+AP, they all taste a bit too 'tabacco-ey'...even after aging a few weeks. Don't get me wrong, they are nice vapes, but I still crave that authentic taste.

I made a couple the other night (just taking a shot in the dark) but I limited the extra tobaccos:

TFA RY4D - 12%
TFA AP - 1%
FA Virginia - 6 drops/50ml
MFS TA - 2 drops/50ml
Capella's Caramel - 1%
NF Bavarian Cream -1%
TFA Cotton candy - 0.5%

I also made an identical one, but I swapped out the NF BC for FA Catalan Cream. After sampling one (w/ BC), I realized that it has way too much caramel. I'm going to change that to 0.5% next batch.

About AP: I had read that it doesn't hold up very well with aging. Should I just add in in later? Or maybe use a greater amount? When I open a fresh bottle of Tribeca, it's the main thing I smell, I think. Or maybe they are using another ingredient that helps to stabilize it?

I'm almost compelled to pay for analysis of the original lol. As a lay person, however, would that info help me? I doubt the results will come back like this:

TFA RY4D -xxx
TFA AP -xxx
Hansen Flue-cured -xxx
Etc., etc. :unsure:

Lastly, I have some Vape Wizard. Never used it. If I drop some in my Tribeca clones, will it smooth out some of the tobacco taste?

Oh yea, I just received some Inawera Nutty Princess Tobacco....I wonder if it will make a good base for Prime 15 ( I was planning to add a bit to my next Tribeca clone...just taking shots in the dark lol ).

Might want to give Hangsen RY3 a shot. I stumbled across this one recently and to me, it smells and tastes a lot like Tribeca. Steeped in a water bath and rested for about a week, then vaped side by side...Tribeca has a slightly more nutty and sweet taste and fuller body, but it's very close. I think some AP and/or EM and maybe some slight tweaking could get you the desired result. I'm doing some experiments and will post back in a couple weeks when I find the right match.
 
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Hi ,Eagles

Pitty they dont ship to the US. Wonder if theres some redirection service in France that can redirect to US.

Also found this, seems its NOVAs main site, asked if they ship to the US, seem they do :) http://www.nova-liquides.com

Others like this shop from Ireland also ship to US: http://e-cigaretteshop.eu/en/

If anyone has experiences with that brand, pls share.

Regards

They don't appear to ship to the US, but (with what little French I learned in high school) they do have shipping options to Canada. I managed to work my way around the site, create an account and checkout with Paypal. I ordered a 20ml bottle of the "Route 66" concentrate (i.e. Torque 56) so we'll see how it goes when/if I get it. I've been waiting a long time for a good torque replacement so I'll post my results.

If they have no issues shipping to Canada, it might be possible to get a Canadian vendor to stock and then ship to the US.....
 
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Hi, BlackHelix

which one did you order from? e-liquid.com (French) does ship to US and they have route 66, its very similar to torque. really good IMHO as well as their aqua 555, aqua revolution (Freedom) and aqua liberty (freedom/longhorn). I think you got it there, since thats where the term route 66 is used.

this is the one that doesnt ship to US, the NOVA, also french. it seems: CONCENTRÉS NOVA - Liberty-vap

But these below do ship to US, its also the NOVA, same as the site that doesnt ship to US:

Alcohol free e-liquids for e-cigarettes 100% natural flavourings Made in France (direct vendor it seems for these clones)

Others like this shop from Ireland also ship to US: Best E-Cigarette | E-Cigs Shop | E-Cigarette Refills | E-Cigarette Brands - E-Cigarette Ireland Shop E Liquid S&HEAVEN

I was more curious about the NOVA ones, as the Aqua I already know and approve.

Thanks.
 
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Hi, BlackHelix

which one did you order from? e-liquid.com (French) does ship to US and they have route 66, its very similar to torque. really good IMHO as well as their aqua 555, aqua revolution (Freedom) and aqua liberty (freedom/longhorn). I think you got it there, since thats where the term route 66 is used.

this is the one that doesnt ship to US, the NOVA, also french. it seems: CONCENTRÉS NOVA - Liberty-vap

But these below do ship to US, its also the NOVA, same as the site that doesnt ship to US:

Alcohol free e-liquids for e-cigarettes 100% natural flavourings Made in France (direct vendor it seems for these clones)

Others like this shop from Ireland also ship to US: Best E-Cigarette | E-Cigs Shop | E-Cigarette Refills | E-Cigarette Brands - E-Cigarette Ireland Shop E Liquid S&HEAVEN

I was more curious about the NOVA ones, as the Aqua I already know and approve.

Thanks.

Yea, it was E-liquide.com I ordered from. I was actually surprised, today when I got home from work it was in my mailbox. Considering I placed the order Monday, that's even faster then some (if not most) companies in Canada/US. As soon as I opened it I recognized the smell instantly. Obviously I won't know for sure until I mix/steep it but I would bet this is the exact same flavor as T56/TW Tobacco Americano. If so, I'm in for a gallon or 2 :)
 

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Hi, guys

Blackhelix, great you received it. Ive bought a few from e-liquide.com and its really awesome, ready made to just easily prepare, etc. Tell me what you think, pls. If you like Freedom, worth trying their Revolution.

Johnny, NOVA someone in this post suggested, Im not sure, I thought it was DIY/flavoring, but Im thinking its actually its the eliquid ready to be used and not essence. EMailed them asking, will inform here. Theres no shop there because AFAIK they usually sell to resellers, etc. but they told me they do sell direct.

This shop in Ireland sells their stuff and ships to US Best E-Cigarette | E-Cigs Shop | E-Cigarette Refills | E-Cigarette Brands - E-Cigarette Ireland Shop E Liquid S&HEAVEN

Heres some reviews on Nova You searched for nova - Page 2 of 2 - e-liquidzine.com

But Ive never tried it. The ones Ive tried that ships to US is the French E-liquides pour cigarettes électroniques - E-liquide.com. Theres a post here in this thread describing what each one is similar to in terms of Halo. Its their AQUA line you want. Worth it!! You can google translate the site to help you do the purchase or perhaps email them. AFAIK there is no tracking code, but Ive sent several times to the US with success, takes 2-3 weeks to arrive.

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Just a note, eagles44 mentioned http://liberty-vap.fr/64-concentres-nova, they sell NOVA flavorings, but they dont ship to US. Strange, the other 2 I mentioned, the direct manufacturer, is not clear to me if its ready made juice or flavoring, I imagine they sell the flavoring as well since liberty-vap.br is reselling their NOVA liquid (as well as the Ireland shop). Will confirm and post here.
 

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Hi,

Sorry if its confusing. Go with the Aqua from e-liquide.com, thats the one friends in the US have bought from and they do ship to US, but they dont have any cap. jack clone, although they do have apple/shisha.

1) Ships to USA for sure, flavourings similar to Halo. Theres no tracking code I believe, but it arrives in 2 to 3 weeks. Very good and worth it.

Aqua (arômes concentrés) - E-liquide.com

Site is in French you will probably need Google translator to do your purchase and you can email them to sort anything.

Details on the flavourings in Eagles post here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...00-halo-freedom-smooth-torque-recipes-41.html

They also have a new one called Liberty which smells just like longhorn and IMHO is similar to longhorn/freedom. Also they have now Oriental with is ginger, similar to Smooth 8 but smoother.

They do a a Sisha which is supposed to be like Apple. But no cap. jack (they have a Cuba I didnt enjoy too much).

2) The other ones I researched:

- E-Liquid Flavours - E-Cigarette Ireland Shop E Liquid S&HEAVEN - Ireland Shop, ships to US. Its the Nova liquid, NOT flavouring, they just answered my mail.

- An entire range of alcohol free and 100% natural flavourings e-liquids | Nova Liquides - seems to be aimed at resellers. Maybe someone in US could represent them? Anyways, they have cap jack and a whole lot of other clones.

They ship to US, but as I said, seems more aimed at wholesale, so might want to contact them via email. I asked them to confirm its flavouring and want to try to purchase with them when they reply.

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Thanks, but I only need Midnight Apple and Captain Jack.

Do you think the shisha apple would be the same as Halo's midnight apple? I know they are both listed as shisha type apple flavors at one of those sites, but without it saying midnight apple not sure it would be similar to the Halo midnight apple. I have a few shisha apples from other companies, and they are just plain "Apple" fruit flavors, nothing like Halo's midnight apple which is a dark tobacco with hints of green apple. Do you know if eagles44 actually tasted all those he mentioned, or was he just trying guesstimate equivalents?

I'll wait to hear your update about the other places, I'd like to get both flavors in one shipment if possible. We'll see if they'll sell to you!
 

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