hardest hitting atty and mod?

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I understand they're originally made to help people quit, but why does it matter if someone wants to blow clouds? Yeah, they improve people's lives, but if I don't have a smoking problem, there's still no reason I can't just use them for my own reasons. Obviously I would make sure everything is okay and not just blow myself up. If they helped you, great, but just because someone wants to use it for a different purpose, don't be so sour about it.
 

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I don't have a problem with people wanting to blow clouds if that's what they want to do. I just ask that they learn how to do so safely, and to do that there is knowledge to be learned and safety guidelines to follow to ensure that. The problem is that many people are getting into the hobby aspect of vaping who don't have an idea how dangerous it can be. There was a mod that exploded just a couple of weeks ago at vape bash in San Antonia and it was just luck that nobody was injured. You wanna blow clouds, fine, just learn how to do so safely before you do.
 

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Hi guys,

I was wondering what mod hits the hardest, as well as an atty. I want a lot of vapor production. Is it mostly dependant on the mod and the build of the atty?

I was thinking about getting a reo grand and reomizer 2 but im not sure how hard those hit, would a 18650 mechanical mod hit harder? Please give me some suggestions.

Thank you!

I likes a little vapor too, and my best so far is a dual coil build at 0.7 ohm Veritas. I don't like to go to low on the ohm. I likes high VG juice too, but with 6mg nicotin this makes my head buzz
 

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I don't have a problem with people wanting to blow clouds if that's what they want to do. I just ask that they learn how to do so safely, and to do that there is knowledge to be learned and safety guidelines to follow to ensure that. The problem is that many people are getting into the hobby aspect of vaping who don't have an idea how dangerous it can be. There was a mod that exploded just a couple of weeks ago at vape bash in San Antonia and it was just luck that nobody was injured. You wanna blow clouds, fine, just learn how to do so safely before you do.
And to add, think of the mechanics of a battery that goes boom, ... it's melting down it's building up gasses in an enclosed tube, it's basically a small pipe bomb. All that was left of the one at the vape bash was a small sliver of the battery and shrapnel. They couldn't even tell what battery it was.
I've been vaping since October and got into the hobby side in March.
For 11 months now I've been messing with all this stuff, and just last week I had a snafu, I forgot to lock my mech and now have a really nice burn on my leg about the size of a baseball. Granted I'm a dumb dumb, but these things or worse can happen if you're not careful.
None of us as vets are bashing the "non-smoking cloud chasing hobbyist " because we are bored. Just the opposite, we Welcome you all, the more people that get Involved in vaping the more technological advancements are made to the apvs, which is great for all of us.
We warn and advise because we care and odds are most of us warn against the dangerous side because we've been there or known someone who has. Now that we have the attention of dc, we have to be more careful as to not give them a reason to have s poster vapor when trying legislate or tax us.
Can you picture them putting up posters or commercials of faceless and handless people from vaping?

Just sayin
 

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Having read through this thread, I am sure that most here know my feelings on this topic. If you want to blow clouds... fine.... but do the research. Gain the knowledge yourself. Learn battery safety. Learn how to build a coil. Learn Ohm's Law. Learn how to troubleshoot your device and identify shorts. Know what a short is and what it means to your battery. Learn how to modify your RDA to achieve your desired results. Do not look for shortcut answers that WILL get you hurt.

That being said, my advice would be to get a good regulated mod. The IPV 2 is a solid 50 watt box mod that is fully capable of producing clouds of the cumulus variety. Get one of those and pick up an RDA of your choosing (the Tobh is a really nice choice with some modification) and focus on learning to build coils. There are many, many different styles of coil builds and they all produce various results. Learn about wicking... your coil is only as good as the juice delivery system. There are as many options for wicking as there are coil styles and atty styles. Research them all and decide what is going to work best for you. But, DO THE LEGWORK! That will pay off more than I could possibly tell you, and you'll appreciate what you end up with all the more for understanding it.

/end rant
 

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AMEN!

The best thing you can do, is get a vv mod and maybe a kayfun clone, start there and learn to build.
While learning to build, read up on battery safety, amps, voltage drops, sub ohming. Battery accidents etc.
Also stalk you tube. Watch Pbuseurdo, grimm green, rip trippers to get started.

If you dont know how to build, and dont know about battery safety....
If you dont care about yourself, you should atleast care about the people around you.

That right there^^^ what ladie said. Tis the path I chose, with a Provari and the Russian. By time I maxed out the P, was ready for mechs and high amp regulated, but still lowered cautiously. Have since sold the P, but still have Russie, she remains one of my top tank contenders, easily handles 75 watts, damn fine vape. Make a cig look like a downgrade:D

I understand they're originally made to help people quit, but why does it matter if someone wants to blow clouds? Yeah, they improve people's lives, but if I don't have a smoking problem, there's still no reason I can't just use them for my own reasons. Obviously I would make sure everything is okay and not just blow myself up. If they helped you, great, but just because someone wants to use it for a different purpose, don't be so sour about it.

I really don't care why one vapes, there are people who vape to lower their med use, seems vape helps stimulate circular and vascular body systems, and helps reduce pain, and need for meds, know of some that vape sweet and food flavor vape to help them control weight. Me, vape has allowed me not to smoke for over a year, with no chance of ever being seduced by the fireside again, or something like that.

If one needs help with their vape, only prerequisite is the ability to ask, nicely helps:D just saying:lol:

I likes a little vapor too, and my best so far is a dual coil build at 0.7 ohm Veritas. I don't like to go to low on the ohm. I likes high VG juice too, but with 6mg nicotin this makes my head buzz

Well, the lower the build the higher the watts the more nic the intake, as my watts and quality of gear went up, my nic level had to be reduced, or walk around dazed an confused for a half hour after a vape break.. Year ago was vaping 24 mg nic, today am at 12 mg nic, and need to drop it some more, but keep mixing it at 12 :D

I feel most all me builds are my best, though they range from 0.16-0.4, do have one at 1.3, need something I can use on a dna30 device:D

Oh, prefer high VG juice, mix at 70-80% VG. Like the smoother vape high VG produces. High VG just teaches one better wicking techniques, is all :D
 
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I understand they're originally made to help people quit, but why does it matter if someone wants to blow clouds? Yeah, they improve people's lives, but if I don't have a smoking problem, there's still no reason I can't just use them for my own reasons. Obviously I would make sure everything is okay and not just blow myself up. If they helped you, great, but just because someone wants to use it for a different purpose, don't be so sour about it.
Don't pay attention to those people. They're just looking to cause trouble and shake their fists at 'these damn kids these days with their clouds and sub ohm coils.' Back in my day we had to walk 5 miles each way... never mind wrong thread.

Just chase your clouds safely and respect other people while doing so. :)

The hardest hitting mod and atty I've tried so far has been a plume veil on a black copper stingray with vtc4 batteries BTW. But a lot of it depends on how you set up your wicks and coils, not just what gear you have.
 

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Ok...



Like it or not...vaping has progressed.
Much better seeing someone start vaping then to start smoking...and some are being..."creative" with it.



We can teach and stress safety without the snark tho :)


Better to teach them well then to attack them and tic them off enough that they are just gonna go ahead with what ever and do something stupid ...right ?
 

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And to add, think of the mechanics of a battery that goes boom, ... it's melting down it's building up gasses in an enclosed tube, it's basically a small pipe bomb. All that was left of the one at the vape bash was a small sliver of the battery and shrapnel. They couldn't even tell what battery it was.
I've been vaping since October and got into the hobby side in March.
For 11 months now I've been messing with all this stuff, and just last week I had a snafu, I forgot to lock my mech and now have a really nice burn on my leg about the size of a baseball. Granted I'm a dumb dumb, but these things or worse can happen if you're not careful.
None of us as vets are bashing the "non-smoking cloud chasing hobbyist " because we are bored. Just the opposite, we Welcome you all, the more people that get Involved in vaping the more technological advancements are made to the apvs, which is great for all of us.
We warn and advise because we care and odds are most of us warn against the dangerous side because we've been there or known someone who has. Now that we have the attention of dc, we have to be more careful as to not give them a reason to have s poster vapor when trying legislate or tax us.
Can you picture them putting up posters or commercials of faceless and handless people from vaping?

Just sayin

Forgeting to lock my mech is one of my biggest fears.
 

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If you are looking to get into "cloud chasing" or mech mods then this is a decent place to start: https://bevapehappy.com/shop/vapehappy-k101-mechanical-mod-kit/. This is actually the first mech mod/cloud chasing setup I started with (the Magneto option, still one of my fav mech mods even though it's nothing special). There are also two good videos on this product page.

But let me caution you. If you want to get into mech mods please do yourself and the rest of us a favor just like everyone else here is saying and do your research first, buy your gear second. Before I decided to get into mech mods I read everything I could on building, battery safety and Ohm's Law. It wasn't until I felt like I hit overload on everything mech and building that I decided to pull the trigger and buy. Even then my first build was the exact build from the product page video. I did it a bunch of times until I go comfortable with it. Then I started to branch out and try my own things.

That all being said once I got my IPV2 (50 watt regulated) I haven't been back to my mech mod. I can run nearly any setup I want and I can control the output by adjusting the amps using a regulated box that has built in safety features. Whereas mech building you are limited to the battery and the resistance of your coil build to what your end result will be.

So if you really want to get into cloud chasing then grab the mod kit from BeVapeHappy, you wont be upset. Although my initial Nimbus atty did crap out on me fairly quick (I see now they only offer the IGO). Get your holes drilled to 1/8 or larger, grab some high VG juice and blow clouds.

But if you want to stick with vaping and have a device that is all around solid grab a 30 or 50 regulated device like the IPV2 or Sigeli 50W. You can run your normal devices like the EVOD or Nautilius your RDA's like my fav the Stillare or a RTA like a Kayfun. All on the same mod.

I was drawn to vaping to get off cigarettes then I became totally enveloped in the culture. DIY juices, mech mods, devices, attys, building. And while it sure is fun every now and then to drop a sub ohm build into my Plume Veil and fog up the room, I build now for flavor, flavor, flavor. And if done right you are still chuck clouds with the best of them.

My current setup is an IPV2 running at 35 watts with a Stillare Clone with dual 12 wrap 28g micro coils at about .85 ohms with cotton (I am testing Rayon now but generally use cotton) and I love it. I use 50/50 or higher VG juice. The flavor is great, clouds are solid and I'm happy and cigarette free.

If you have any specific questions please let me or the forum know. Vape On!
 

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To the OP,
As snarky as some of these people who replied are/tried to be there was some good info given as to your question. I am pretty new to the vaping world myself so cannot give you a direct answer. I can say this however, your going to want to go with a mechanical mod and a good battery like a Sony svt4. The atty will end up being something of personal choice, which is something you will have to learn about before you can make an educated decision.
You will be told here, repeatedly, that you need to understand things like ohms law, battery safety, and such. The people who tell you this are quite correct, you don't want to blow a hand or your face off chasing clouds.
Before I would step up to trying to "fog the neighborhood" I would certainly begin by trying to learn to do your own builds. Your going to need, beyond pure saftey info, some tools and a decent ohm meter or multimeter. I found a good deck to build on in the Plume Vail atty. No weird angles and easy to work on. Start slow, with simple micro coils and higher ohm builds and check them on your ohm meter. Then throw them away and build another. Don't fire them.
Its going to take you awhile of perfecting your skill at builds and understanding all the rules and saftey stuff before you are blowing huge clouds. If you have somebody else build it for you without knowing what he/she is doing, your just the lungs powering his/her clouds.
Keep asking questions, nobody on these forums started out knowing a darn thing about vaping when they were new to the scene either.

As to some of the responders here, geez. Give us new guys a break. Simply responding "you are not ready" or being snarky in your responses is probably doing more harm than good. Nobody is ever going to learn anything if they don't get decent answers to thier questions. And if they can't get good answers that's when somebody goes and does something really stupid and blows thier flipping face off. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves, and you kniw which ones you are.

As to these boards having a different look lately....
I am sure they do. Vaping is moving from mostly people trying to quit smoking such as myself, to more of a mainstream thing that many people who have never touched a tobacco product in thier life are beginning to have an interest in. Vaping is much more than a smoking cessation thing anymore its a viable and enjoyable hobby. So I would say get used to the new look, its not gonna go back to the way it used to be for sure.

Yup I know who I am and I will tell you you arent ready to do something if you dont show me that you know how.... and BTW its VTC4 not svt4
and as for doing something possibly dangerous just to look kewl and blow massive clouds.... not a smart idea... not smart at all.
Everytime someone goes and vents a battery catastrophically with physical damage to theirself puts a "black eye" on the face of Vaping.... We dont need any more statistical evidence that Hi power/low ohm setups are unsafe in the hands of newbies ( actually anyone without a clue).

Educate ones self first, read listen and retain the info and make sound decisions towards the builds that are going on top of that battery. Way too many people are doing the Monkey See Monkey Do tactics without understanding the mechanics/physics involved....
 

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Nobody here is saying you can't vape if you didn't smoke... nobody here is saying you can't chase clouds...
Both of these things are up to your own choices and desires... what we are saying is learn everything you can about it first and take the slower, more cautious path to get there. We just want everyone to stay safe and keep all of their original fingers/eyes/ears and what-not in their original condition... spontaneous perforation is not as cool as it sounds. :D
 

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Yup I know who I am and I will tell you you arent ready to do something if you dont show me that you know how.... and BTW its VTC4 not svt4
and as for doing something possibly dangerous just to look kewl and blow massive clouds.... not a smart idea... not smart at all.
Everytime someone goes and vents a battery catastrophically with physical damage to theirself puts a "black eye" on the face of Vaping.... We dont need any more statistical evidence that Hi power/low ohm setups are unsafe in the hands of newbies ( actually anyone without a clue).

Educate ones self first, read listen and retain the info and make sound decisions towards the builds that are going on top of that battery. Way too many people are doing the Monkey See Monkey Do tactics without understanding the mechanics/physics involved....
svt4... Sounds like it should be a ford cobra model. LoL
 
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