Has anybody actually had a battery explode?

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The Anatomy of a Protected Battery

 

[Vapor Vinny]

It only has to explode once.

I use AAA batts. They don't explode in any harmful fashion. I had one pop open once, but that was in my Playstation 3 controller.

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

Flashlight Explosion

CR123 batteries, but a story worth reading

 

[Vapor Vinny]

Mess around with Lithium Ions and they will explode

 

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Mess around with Lithium Ions and they will explode

Yes, but those were not Lithium Ion

 

[wv2win]

That's not true, protection circuits don't make it magically 100% safe, whether it's on the battery or in the mod. It may not be a large risk but it's still more than a single battery.

It's not enough of a risk to make the ridicules claim to never used stacked batteries, is my point. Otherwise, we all better stay out of automobiles.

 

[wv2win]

As a battery-challenged person (electrical-knowledge-challenged, for that matter) I have a question for you battery gurus: Would it be correct to say that problems/explosions/fires caused by mishandled batteries occur across the spectrum of battery-operated devices, such as cel phones, cameras, etc. and are not more common in ecig devices than other appliances?

Yes. And overall, it is a very rare occurance.

 

[Vapor Vinny]

Yes. And overall, it is a very rare occurance.

You are a gambler, no? Like I said, it only has to explode once. I mod my own ecigs and I stick with using AAA batteries because of the risk factor. They do have a lot of other disadvantages though.

 

[DC2]

I was under the impression that batteries do not "explode" but that they can catch fire and vent rapidly and dangerously.
What CAN explode is the device they are contained in if that device does not have a way to allow the rapidly building pressure to escape.

Definitely read the links posted by Caridwen to make sure you understand battery safety.

 

[DC2]

As a battery-challenged person (electrical-knowledge-challenged, for that matter) I have a question for you battery gurus: Would it be correct to say that problems/explosions/fires caused by mishandled batteries occur across the spectrum of battery-operated devices, such as cel phones, cameras, etc. and are not more common in ecig devices than other appliances?

I don't think anyone has enough information to honestly answer that question.

My personal opinion is that it is far less common in things like cell phones and laptops.
It just seems to me that there are exponentially more of those items, yet such occurrences are far less frequent.

I've heard of far more battery issues in my time here than I've heard of for any other devices combined during my entire life.
On the other hand, that doesn't mean it isn't happening more often than I am hearing about for those other devices.

 

[Crash Moses]

I have had one Ego battery overheat bad enough to melt a plastic drip tip to an atty. I had to pick it up with a potholder. Better to be safe than sorry though. Never leave a charger unattended, use a Lipo bag, store your batteries properly (to keep them from touching each other or metal), and test them if you have access to a multimeter. Personally I would not use stacked batteries as I don't think it's worth the risk.

Do NOT use a lipo bag for any battery that requires you to put the charger in the bag. The charger will overheat and possibly very bad things will happen.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo.../422476-battery-charging-bag.html#post9652374

 

[DC2]

Do NOT use a lipo bag for any battery that requires you to put the charger in the bag. The charger will overheat and possibly very bad things will happen.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo.../422476-battery-charging-bag.html#post9652374

Other than the thread you linked to, have there been other discussions on this forum about this topic?

 

[Shizzle]

i had a genuine joye ego battery "semi" explode when i just started vaping:

i'd laid the battery over the top of the couch while it was charging, and then accidentally leaned up against it, pressing the button unknowingly -- but i sure knew it within several seconds -- it was SO loud, i initially thought i'd been a victim of a drive-by shooting! (but that's never happened in my town's 201 year history, so i guess it's a bit far-fetched, lol)...

anywho, the bottom of the battery blew out (like it's supposed to, to prevent it from totally exploding), but it also caused a TON of sparks and smoke. luckily, no one was injured and no property was damaged.

needless to say, i don't charge my batteries over the couch anymore.

 

[Baditude]

Here is proof that even what is generally considered the safest mod battery available, the AW IMR 18650, can explode or at least burn up a mod. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-information/190146-pictures-serious-battery-failure-imr-18650-a.html

I have had a protected Trustfire "explode" in a mechanical mod. Both ends blew off of the battery, melted the battery casing, vented hot gases that made the mod too hot to touch and melted the powder-coat paint on it. The mod had to be sent to the manufacturer for repair.



No battery is completely safe. Most battery incidents are from user error, a lack of common sense, or when used in a manner in which they were not intended. I am of the opinion that the batteries that we use in our mods were not particularly designed for them, especially when used in extremely high demand situations such as sub ohm or ultra low resistance coils in RBAs. PBusardo has been very critical of sub ohm vaping and has said, "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."

Here's more battery information resources:

Basic to Advanced Battery Information from Battery University

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-issues/254690-protected-batteries-vs-imr-safety-5.html

Mechanical Mod Proper Usage Guide

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/announcements-news/271739-emss-ecf-metal-tubemods-safety-specification.html

Batteries : Vape Safe Mod Fuse 2

 

[SissySpike]

This guy thought it never happened ether.

 

[tj99959]

I was under the impression that batteries do not "explode" but that they can catch fire and vent rapidly and dangerously.
What CAN explode is the device they are contained in if that device does not have a way to allow the rapidly building pressure to escape.

Definitely read the links posted by Caridwen to make sure you understand battery safety.

Lithium Ion Battery Explosion - YouTube

 

[DC2]

Lithium Ion Battery Explosion - YouTube

Looks like it vented rapidly and dangerously.

 

[tj99959]

Looks like it vented rapidly and dangerously.

Ex-lpo-sion:

a large-scale, rapid, or spectacular expansion or bursting out or forth.

 

[crxess]

Ex-lpo-sion:

a large-scale, rapid, or spectacular expansion or bursting out or forth.

Correct Batteries do Explode. Any rapid expansion that will project parts from the whole is an explosion. Even a balloon popping
is a type of explosion.
Seems Cell phones and Car batteries have a far higher number of explosive failures than most other devices.

Let us all remember this guy as the one that carved the notch for e-Cigs with his carelessness:

Edited upon request.
Apologies if inappropriate.


ETA: I like this one - Read the discription of the explosion...............Yet no Hand Injury?

Electronic cigarette explodes in Muskogee woman's hand - FOX23 News

 

[tj99959]

Correct Batteries do Explode. Any rapid expansion that will project parts from the whole is an explosion. Even a balloon popping
is a type of explosion.
Seems Cell phones and Car batteries have a far higher number of explosive failures than most other devices.

Let us all remember this guy as the one that carved the notch for e-Cigs with his carelessness:

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Even afterward he looks clueless

I see that his mustache has grown back.