Actually i think that I figured it out...2mg nic is too low for an all day vape, but it's perfect for a single cig...maybe these are one shot carts, lasts 5-6 minutes and then dead.
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Actually i think that I figured it out...2mg nic is too low for an all day vape, but it's perfect for a single cig...maybe these are one shot carts, lasts 5-6 minutes and then dead.
First off, while I did say business must be slow, I did give my honest assessment. Second, we all know that Provari has no problem selling their product and we know it's a good product.
OTOH hardly a day goes by without some ripoff site posting on here promoting their junk. After a while, you get pretty jaded. Part of the reason we are here is to try to shield new people from that kind of propaganda.
I don't think doing my own mixing is a problem but, most people don't DIY anyway. They buy premixed juice. I think you are referring to filling. You don't have to do that with cartos. For just about all the devices we advocate on here, you can get prefilled cartos. They are just a lot more expensive than filling and they limit the available flavors. So, you aren't doing me any favors by relieving me of the trouble of filling but, charging me more.
Per mg nic, it looks a lot more expensive. If it uses power at the same rate as a regular PV, I'd say that battery is a fail. However, if you occasionally need to stealth vape, this might be an appropriate supplemental device. I don't see it being your main vape, unless I'm missing something.
It seems to be BS - it's not smoke free - just a rip-off rebrander selling what appears to be an RN4081 for too much money with bs lies - i.e nothing new
independent review
YouTube - SmokeFree Electronic Cigarette Review
independent review
YouTube - SmokeFree Electronic Cigarette Review
My question is how do we shield them from it if we all but flame them for asking about it? Don't we want them to ask before they go buy a ripoff e cig?
That's why I sort of went both ways with my original answer. It looked like spam and I pointed out the possibility but, I did provide my thoughts.
The wording of the OP sounded like a spammer..we've seen it hundreds of times before with someone pimping out a product not listed by a Registered Supplier. The Provari is a well-known mod in the community, so it would make sense for people on here to discuss it.
Just to clear the air so to speak. I have been following Smokefree for the last year, and I am a shareholder in SFIO. A very happy one I might add. This product is not a scam. The carts are a one and done version usually 10-12 puffs according to the user manual. The carts, or filters, are soft and resemble that of a regular cigarette rather than the hard plastic that we are used to in an ecig. There is no vapor emitted from this product however the battery heats an element that resembles the heated smoke sensation from an actual cigarette. This is a patented technology in the EU. I can agree with some here that I prefer my vapor but unfortunately not everyone who owns an indoor business in Illinois does. I really see this as a product that can fill that gap. We all know the vapor is harmless but try telling that to the flight attendant or bar owner or anywhere else that does not allow smoking for that matter. Now I had a prototype version of this product about a year ago but it has changed so I have ordered a new starter kit. I plan to use it in all the places that I cannot vape, which is just about anywhere indoors from my experience.
You folks should not be jumping to all these scam conclusions without trying the product out for yourselves. The starter kits are cheap but the carts are pricey which is why I wouldn't be using this product on a daily basis. But to have one for a long plane flight or even in a movie theater is where I see this product headed. And heaven forbid that we might not be able to smoke outdoors anymore either. There is a lot of potential here unless you are just an arrogant vaper who could care less who you are offending. Check them out for yourselves Smoke Real Store.
I'll be back in a couple of days to give an honest review of the product, I hope others that have seen this post will do the same. Open your minds for a change... This really could be a great product to fill that niche
You folks should not be jumping to all these scam conclusions without trying the product out for yourselves. The starter kits are cheap but the carts are pricey which is why I wouldn't be using this product on a daily basis. But to have one for a long plane flight or even in a movie theater is where I see this product headed. And heaven forbid that we might not be able to smoke outdoors anymore either. There is a lot of potential here unless you are just an arrogant vaper who could care less who you are offending. Check them out for yourselves Smoke Real Store.
I'll be back in a couple of days to give an honest review of the product, I hope others that have seen this post will do the same. Open your minds for a change... This really could be a great product to fill that niche
When a respected member of the community chimes in with a review, only then will many of us take it seriously. Someone with 1 post doing a review = company shill.
Lastly, shareholders in a company should have the same restrictions placed on them that SUPPLIER ASSOCIATES do. Shareholders cannot give unbiased opinions on products or services.
Lastly, shareholders in a company should have the same restrictions placed on them that SUPPLIER ASSOCIATES do. Shareholders cannot give unbiased opinions on products or services.
i really don't see the point, why not just use a kr8 with a carto that has all pg juice in it and hold it in for a little bit? even with 80/20 if i hold it in i dont get any vapor...
I don't think that's the same product...it has a different name.
There's hardly any vapor from straight PG. Why not just vape that out of something that looks nothiong like an analog if you are trying to be discreet?
don't know if you ment that thats how it should be, as in they shouldnt be able to give unbiased opinions on products or services, or you think they cant. because really anyone can be a shareholder in a company you can't restrict what they say they can review something however they want... even if it doesn't make sense to do so because they essentially own a piece of the company
I don't see a bunch of scam conclusions being thrown about. What I do see is people who have serious doubts about the product. 10-12 puffs per cart means that the carts would be ridiculously expensive, especially considering the miniscule amount of nicotine in them. You'd have to suck one of the carts dry in order to get as much nicotine as a puff or two of a standard e-cig. You might as well be sucking on a straw.
I think I will pass on this one. I see no benefits to it. Just my personal opinion, of course.
The OP asked if anyone had any experience with it. He didn't do a review, he didn't give an opinion. And here we are, four pages of negative opinions without anyone having any experience with this device.
Somehow this reminds me of the thread John Phoenix started recently, about the responses he received from the people on QuitSmokingMessageBoard. Boy, where they close minded, intolerant and downright childish!
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ssion/189267-beware-quit-smoking-purists.html
Somehow this reminds me of the thread John Phoenix started recently, about the responses he received from the people on QuitSmokingMessageBoard. Boy, where they close minded, intolerant and downright childish!
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ssion/189267-beware-quit-smoking-purists.html
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That is the great thing about opinions. Everyone is entitled to them.
He asked if anyone had ordered it, btw.
Kinda sounds like it. If that's the case though, then maybe a bit pricey. It's like 8 bucks and change for 2 ten packs of them. I don't see where that would be any cheaper than smoking. Battery is good for 10 carts before charging, 30 charges before it needs to be replaced. A PAD smoker would get like two weeks out of this thing and spend as much as on analogs.
We could have said, nope, haven't ordered it, but good luck and let us know. No, just like on the QuitSmokingMessageBoard, immediate refusal to even think about it as maybe a useable alternative.
well I gave it a shot. I guess you can presume all you want to about me since this was my first post. I'll keep the review to myself and you all can just go on beating down a product that doesn't conform to your specifications as you are all expert vapers and this product is completely different than what you are used to. Thanks for at least reading what I had to say, at least most of it. GLTA enjoy that glycol !!!
By the way, it wouldn't want to buy that thing, it sounds like it is probably worse than the ecigs as we know them, I'm not talking about the product, but about how this discussion has developed. I wonder if, after boasting our superiority over the QuitSmokingMessageBoard, we are any better than them. And yes, you can tackle me on words.
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