Has anyone ordered the new smokefree version

[AngusATAT]

By the way, it wouldn't want to buy that thing, it sounds like it is probably worse than the ecigs as we know them, I'm not talking about the product, but about how this discussion has developed. I wonder if, after boasting our superiority over the QuitSmokingMessageBoard, we are any better than them. And yes, you can tackle me on words.

I think you're taking it the wrong way. All I see is some discussion on a new product. I don't see anyone saying "You're stupid for buying that, vape our way or you're not really vaping!"

Like I stated in my above post, what I said was my opinion. I just don't see a benefit for me, personally. Others might. In fact, I am pretty sure quite a few folks will give it a try. Heck, if someone handed me one, I would give it a shot. I just can't see anything that would make me want to drop some money down on it.

 

[WolfAtTheDoor]

well I gave it a shot. I guess you can presume all you want to about me since this was my first post. I'll keep the review to myself and you all can just go on beating down a product that doesn't conform to your specifications as you are all expert vapers and this product is completely different than what you are used to. Thanks for at least reading what I had to say, at least most of it. GLTA enjoy that glycol !!!

Sorry just not something I would even think about buying. I vape 18mg liquid and 3-3.5ml or so a day.. That would mean having to buy 2+ x 7 packs of carts for a week. I did not see spare batteries for sale seperately, though I will admit I did not look at the site too thoroughly and having a battery that will only last up to 30 charges? Not good for me at all, seeing as the charge on the battery probably lasts what, 1-2 hours, maybe 3? If you buy the kit that comes with 1 battery, that means you could most likely charge it 30 times in a week (depending on how long it takes for the battery to charge?) which is probably another 2-3 hours? So that's 8 charges in a 24 hour period, which means you would reach 30 charges in 3.75 days. Lets say if they did sell batteries separately at $20 a battery, that's $40 a week you'd have to spend in batteries.

I suppose it's possible that someone who only smoked half a pack or less a day, or someone who only smoked when they went out with friends/drinking/etc it may work fine. I don't think it is very cost effective or something that would work for a lot of people here on the forums.

Another thing that I think that would be a big turn off to most serious vapers is the fact that its proprietary technology and the carts are not refillable, or anything like that. So, in my opinion the cost would just be way too much for the serious vaper, but it might be alright for the casual vaper who only vapes a few times a week or in a social setting.

There are a couple things I think that might need to be done, before any serious vaper would take them seriously.

• Drop the stuff that makes it proprietary.
• increase the Nic MG from 2mg.
• Lower prices on carts.
• Find a battery that lasts more than 30 recharges.

Until then, well I just don't think it'll find much of a home in the hearts of most vapers, like those you will find here, but that's my opinion and am most likely wrong.

 

[SubOnAux24]

Nice post Wolf. I would have to agree with you. Well said.

 

[jtpjc]

I think you're taking it the wrong way. All I see is some discussion on a new product. I don't see anyone saying "You're stupid for buying that, vape our way or you're not really vaping!"

Like I stated in my above post, what I said was my opinion. I just don't see a benefit for me, personally. Others might. In fact, I am pretty sure quite a few folks will give it a try. Heck, if someone handed me one, I would give it a shot. I just can't see anything that would make me want to drop some money down on it.

Okay, got the point. I'm dropping it.

 

[WolfAtTheDoor]

Nice post Wolf. I would have to agree with you. Well said.

Thanks, glad you found it interesting.

 

[Jtoo]

If you read my original post you will notice that I am a vaper too. I never said I would give up the vapor. I also stated that the price was too high for a regular user. All I said is that the product can definitely fill that gap where vaping is not an option period. I fly up to 15 times a year and just the fact of knowing that I don't have to run out of the airport to catch some nicotine saves me 15-20 minutes in prep time. That's if this product works, the prototype did, so I don't suspect that the new one will be any different. I'll pay the premium and keep it around for those times.

The only reason I logged in is because I wanted everyone to know that the product is here, it's patented in Europe with exclusive licensing agreements and although it may seem like a novelty right now, it might just catch on for the reasons I stated.

 

[SubOnAux24]

Their microchip sensor implanted in the heating element seems to be very hi-tech and interesting as well. Nanobead technology The check it out

 

[paulyc44]

Why is everyone so quick to knock it? Not everyone wants to be a vaper-head like yourselves. Some people want to quit nicotine and this is simply another option to do so. Oh and what about all the other uses for this DRUG delivery device? Not to mention the need to "vape" on a plane right in your seat, at a restaurant, in a taxi, in a hospital, a submarine or an infantry post. The market is huge. This site is so biased towards blowing clouds of vapor with people that just are getting more addicted to nicotine than ever. Vaping in this world is not for quitters it seems.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

We know that in the PG-VG realm, TH is inversely proportional to vapor.

 

[dormouse]

There were heated flavor delivery devices in the shape of cigarettes years ago (no nicotine). I wish I could remember the name of it. They were sold as pacifier-type cigarette-replacement devices and there were also unheated ones that just dragged air through past a flavored refill. I remember seeing them when I bought ones of the cheaper unheated ones instead (and never even tried it).

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

...Oh and what about all the other uses for this DRUG delivery device? Not to mention the need to "vape" on a plane right in your seat...

If that particular loophole was the intention of the manufacturer, they blundered considerably by making a cigarette-lookalike of it. Why risk a nasty disruption at 40,000 feet by sucking on a faux cigarette when you could just as easily choose a kinder, gentler DRUG delivery device—a paper cup filled with caffeine—then lean back, immerse yourself in a glow of anti-nicotine self-righteousness and float away?

Vaping in this world is not for quitters it seems.

Not of a necessity, no. My involvement in vaping from day #1 was for an alternative, not a cessation strategy.

 

[NicLiq]

What sets this apart from a Nicotrol inhaler with flavoring? I know they are prescription now, but they'll probably end up OTC with flavors just like Nicorette gum.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

What sets this apart from a Nicotrol inhaler with flavoring?...

We may know when it is tried and reviewed.

 

[dormouse]

The difference is you could probably get away w/ using a nicotrol inhaler anywhere but good luck explaining the diff between this new device and an ecig to somebody who just wants you to stop using it in their plane, restaurant, etc.

And have you noticed the shift lately about concern over second hand smoke to concern children will see people using cigarettes and be influenced? This new device is not going to get past those people.

This new device seems to have oddly opposite features of not having any visible smoke (stealthy) while looking exactly like a cigarette (will annoy non-smokers and no-smoking places).

 

[paulyc44]

If that particular loophole was the intention of the manufacturer, they blundered considerably by making a cigarette-lookalike of it. Why risk a nasty disruption at 40,000 feet by sucking on a faux cigarette when you could just as easily choose a kinder, gentler DRUG delivery device—a paper cup filled with caffeine—then lean back, immerse yourself in a glow of anti-nicotine self-righteousness and float away?



Not of a necessity, no. My involvement in vaping from day #1 was for an alternative, not a cessation strategy.

You've overlooked one important fact. THEY HAVE THE PATENT FOR THE VAPORLESS TECHNOLOGY! The REAL is the first of many products to come. And they're partner is (The green leaf) Science. You know what (that funny green leaf) is don't you? Won't stop there my friend. I suppose many more drugs can be administered by vaporizing the drug. Man oh man are they going to take on the world.

 

[Poeia]

Looks a lot like Endit which I bought when I was trying to quit smoking. You'd have to suck on it with a piece of Nicorette to get any nicotine (and it tastes like a stale cigarette), but…

 

[NicLiq]

Ten minutes on google shows this is a classic pump and dump.

 

[Free1]

Glad to see many people give out their opinion. As stated earlier I ordered one to give it to my friend since I am not a smoker but I wanted to know what most the of the people here think about this product. anyway thanks for all your inputs. I look forward to hearing a real user review on this board pretty soon.

 

[Jtoo]

Well they sold out of their initial starter kits in 3 days and are already logging back orders so I think pump and dump is out of the question....I also think you will see this product hit the mainstream soon as well.

I was one of the fortunate ones who have already received my initial order for a starter kit and a combo pack of "filters"/carts. They have 2 flavor options American blend and Virginia blend. I tried it out with about 9 other smokers/vapers who have never heard of this product before, aside from me telling them, and the results were above even my expectations. The 2mg "one shot" filters pack a pretty good kick, even better than my 3pc or my mod. according to our little focus group. The flavors were both unique with the Virgina blend being the sweeter of the two. A couple folks said that it reminded them of the clove cigarettes. The flavor stays with you for some time which I don't normally get from my vapor ecigs because I'm usually blowing out half the product in a cloud.

Everything that the product claims to do in fact does happen. It might even be a better cessation device because it gives you all the same smoking effect without the one thing that all smokers tend to see, smoke/vapor. It is exactly the same size as an analog making it the smallest one that I have tried so far and the "filters" resemble that of an analog, they are soft.

My next move is to actually be in a public setting and enjoy this product in front of people who would normally be offended to see what the reaction is. I have a feeling that because it emits no vapor or odor then people will not care what I am sucking on. My ultimate goal is to use this product regularly when I am flying because like some others here my intention was never to quit. Only to get my nicotine in a way that does not harm me or others around me.

I'm hoping to see other reviews posted as well because I could be biased but all in all the RE/AL ecig does exactly what they claim it does. Good flavor, a good shot of nicotine, and absolutely no vapor. Pretty cool I think.

I will not give up on my mod due to the price and the clouds I like to blow but this one is a must have for my array of toys!

 

[NicLiq]

Where are most vapers gathered? Here.
Do you see anyone who's been around here longer than 6 mos. with one? No.
Would some people buy one in order to stealth vape somewhere if the kit cost less than $10? Maybe.

This product is a penny stock pump and dump. I feel bad for the people who fell for it in email spam.